Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

[#HBC | Ryker]

Doesn't matter.

If the connections don't fit don't force them like putting a jiggsaw piece where it doesn't belong.

Indy is more viable.

Die.

The connections are there. Don't act like a moron, it's unbecoming. Just because you decided to push Ditz as scum when you were the most likely second choice AND when Ryker and Swiss were pushing him doesn't mean you can't be connected and that's the bull**** you're pushing.

There's ZERO points in your play that couldn't be connected with him.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

He burns .

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ryker, will you back a LaL policy to cover RR, Orb, Felipe, Bleck and Dabuz?

Why do I have Felipe as town? Let's assume he is.

Liars, lurkers, or both?

Because he's sheeping the right guy.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

You know this is gonna be a repeat of pulp fiction but **** it, I've been out with people doing stuff and such.

I will confirm this,

I was the one who shot No Lynch

I will not confirm anything else.

~

I know this is Ate but damn, Swiss I really do think you are town after that post and the previous one with your case on Deitz.

But yeah, just trust me. If I was scum with deitz I would be ecstatic, love the dude because he is my bro irl. He came to anime milwaukee and lynched me in death note mafia. He doesn't do smash much over blazblue but he is a true bro to me, if I was scum I would never support him being alive if I thought he was town, never.

Deitz plays with a very troll playstyle, good is kinda subjective but just trust me he doesn't **** around if he is town unless he wants to troll. He didn't troll here.

He is new, but very friendly and playful. He likes to have fun and I greatly respect this. I get mad at mafiia too much and get pissed as all hell as town when I amm considered a lynch pick even when I played bad, like I am here for very vali reasons.

listen, Deitz if he was town would never push me like he did there, I know he wouldn't.

I'm terrible at mafia, I fully admit this.

But damn it, I know Jay. If I was scum with him, he would never push me like he did. He knows we're bros and would push me with AtE like he did or even suggested the lovers claim if he was.

Just trust me, I'm not scuim. I didn't shoot NL because I was it, I shot him because of him being a total moron defending Deitz. He never addressed me directly, he went around me and strawmanned me while doing it. He nevere tried to look at it from my PoV. He just saod derp derp you are scum, common one, I can't actually defend against this. He offered me nothing for his reckless and one sided defense of him.

So yeah there ya go.

I went googling for an image of utter surprise, but after looking for a minute, I realized it wasn't utterly surprising.

I would have shot one of our many coasters. I honestly thought Swiss was the only person I could see making that shot as a vig, but this works, actually. RR just couldn't wrap his head around NL.

Aight, so RR is either a town-aligned shooter or an SK. I subscribe to Swiss's theory that Kuz was the mafia shot. I reached the same conclusion. RR can sit around so long as we don't have any uncomfortable deaths showing up.

Vote Dork Horse

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm hesitant to due a potential vote blocker, since Swiss is right about the possibility of then targeting NL or Kuz.

Look I hated NL, his defense of Deitz was pure garbage, he was pushing me while completely ignoring anything I said. He was going to be a ML or a hindrance to town from my PoV. I couldn't ignore them, I would have shot Orbo if they weren't so damn adamant of Jay being town.

Yep. Couldn't wrap his head around NL.

That's the problem with being loud. You never know who has a gun.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

No, you're hesitant because you're SK. Who cares about the vote blocker? All he can do is... block your vote. And that's weak as far as your reason for shooting NL. And besides, at least he would have hashed connections throughout the Day, something that I doubt dabuz/orbo/felipe will do.

You're really making me wanna just wrap the Day up and consider the SK done with.

I don't like you.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ryker, thoughts?

I don't like RR. Previous posts outline very plainly that I want him to reach a stabby death.

I don't like Gorf/J's handling of the claim situation at all. They're trying to lynch what could very easily be a town power role. Let's face it, RR is not surviving under the magnifying glass as an SK from D2 onward, yet they want to end him here despite their legitimate case on DH.

What they said about DH holds up. He's been on my scum list since early in the game and has done nothing to rectify it. I want him dead first because then I stop worrying about J/Gorf if he flips scum.

I want RR to shoot Dabuz if he's got another shot.

 

[Swiss]

Assuming your previous posts were thoughts as you go. Please confirm.

You're calling Bleck town on DH scum? Bleck is what in DH town?

Agree with RR roleclaim?

Unconcerned with Dabuz kill. Can be done.

Lynch all Liars.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

They were.

Probably scum. Preferably copped.

Not really. All it does is out if he's going to claim JOAT or Vig. If scum has anything manipulative, then JOAT could be more easily ****ed with. It can still be ****ed with, but they have to make that commitment. We'll see which he'll be claiming by his actions toMorrow if he's still alive.

Good.

Fine. Transparency is the best policy when you don't understand how to lie and be useful.

 

[Swiss]

You get Dabuz kill if I get RR claim.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It's in the hands of RR, lol. That means I win this round.

 

[Orboknown]

OK, on Dietz scum flip was gonna look at NL and Kuz, but then they both died.
Unsure why as they could have been used as lynch bait by scum on the Dietz flip with how much they defended Dietz.
Then RR claim.
OK with letting Ryu be for now.
Fine with taking out Dark Horse.

 

[Swiss]

It's in the hands of RR, lol. That means I win this round.

It is in our hands, RR will do as directed to prove towniness. Although, to be more precise, it is in my hands.

RR role claim. I have you as town lean but I need to block off avenues for you if you are not. We are not in a position where we need to take risks as all the stronger players are, to my mind, town.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

You know RR as well as I do and he'll bristle up at the thought of listening to you and I'm offering him an alternative.

He's claiming tomorrow at the latest and I can leave him that much room.

Why's it so imperative that a one day difference doesn't work?

 

[Swiss]

his night action toNight....

 

[Swiss]

Unvote

Orbo don't vote anyone without my express permission.

Will stall the lynch.

Don't make me do this.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm willing to give him an action tonight. Again, why's it so important Swiss.

You're trying to bluff with a gun loaded full of blanks.

The only way you get what you want it to make me also want it.

 

[Orboknown]

Unvote

Orbo don't vote anyone without my express permission.

Will stall the lynch.

Don't make me do this.

ok, willing to do the italicized as swiss is pretty darn townie so far.
though if i do get a strong indicator to vote someone, i might just do so.

 

[Orboknown]

Mfw i realize everything is italicized in quotes.

 

[Orboknown]

EBWOP

Unvote

Orbo don't vote anyone without my express permission.

Will stall the lynch.

Don't make me do this.

Willing to do the underlined as swiss seems pretty darn townie so far.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Stall the lynch all you want. Just makes sure you don't No Lynch so that Swiss an act like OS Jr.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

*can act like

 

[Swiss]

We don't know what abilities RR has, all we know is that he killed NL. By giving him a free night we leave ourselves vulnerable to tenfold the potential fake claims RR coul d bring out if anti-town. RR is inherently scummy so the only way we can be sure on him is mechanically or upon his flip. If he claims with any sort of brain D3 he can create a claim where he has reason to survive and wifom.

We do not need to place ourselves in this position and create risk. The only downside is an unreliable cop/track from him if he is JOAT but the mafia ninja has flipped and as such his main track counter is already gone.

The more I have to spell out to you the more avenues I open to potential RR scum. This is not something I wish to do and I will not.

Never liken me to the ignorant plague that is OS again. That was serious.

I like Orbo. We need more players like this.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Swiss, I want to have the argument over this situation later. I've had an epiphany that only works for a game with these flips and the fact that you haven't pointed it out probably means that you're sincere in your line of reasoning and therefore flat wrong.

But sure, RR can claim.

 

[Swiss]

Don't think I've ever been wrong but sure.

C'mon RR - claim.

DH you can claim after RR.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm Sarah the Combat Medic.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR when exactly were you roleblocked, day or night?

N0 is when I was roleblocked with the voteblock.

 

[Swiss]

Huh.

Vote DH

Vanz I hate you if that claim is true.

 

[Orboknown]

erm..noob time.
combat medic=what exactly?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Doctor + Vig.

 

[Orboknown]

OK.
thanks RR.
that makes ryu near...what is the word i want..unreplaceablewill work.
RR is near unreplaceable if true.
Did you protect anyone last night RR?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I could only shot or protect, I was hoping the WIFOM of a doctor would make mafia steer clear of Ryker and Swiss.

 

[Orboknown]

which obviously worked out.
hmm.
man i need to think now.

 

[Swiss]

RR, I'll give you your night action later on after I've weighed up the options. Please do not gambit on this, if I say to shoot someone, shoot them and let me die.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Holy wow.

Sometimes I hate Swiss.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why don't you go ahead and tell everyone that you think I stand a good chance of being scum, Swiss? I'd rather get that out now while I'm paying attention.

 

[Swiss]

I think you're town.

Outing aggressive RR PR was good. This was unfortunate. Combat Medic is a very difficult role to pick up on.

I'll not say this was terrible by any means. Their ninja is dead so if we do have a watcher (far more likely) they can't just kill RR.

 

[Orboknown]

so watcher is latched onto RR?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Swiss, do you realize just how much of a ****ty situation I'm in right now?

 

[Dabuz]

I haven't finished catching up yet...but...IDK what to say about everything happening on this page.

Swiss forced RR to claim, and he is our Doctor+Vig. RR claiming to have a killing ability is fine for at least 1 day if he can be controlled by someone townie, but a full claim like that is unnecessary and unwise on D2. I really hope we have some sort of protective role to save RR :x Swiss needs to be looked at now, I am unhappy with him.

Orbo doesn't even have his head in the game, now he is continuing to ride Swiss's coat-tails, I support his lynch. Swiss, why are you fine with this play style?

DH...im not against his lynch because he hasn't even been here, but I'm not if for it yet.

Ryker, that last post makes me go WTF a lot.