Are you kidding me July, really? Once Ryu flips scum, the stalemate is essentially disappear. Swiss and Ryker aren't going to be over dietz tomorrow, they will be looking at the people connected to Ryu. With your apparently super strong scum read on Ryu, there is no reason you should be all the suddenly trying to lynch dietz simply to get rid of a "stalemate"
Then we can listen to Aggressive Mediation.
So if RR flips scum, there are new suspects/connections to go off of, and we have one scum down. I'm home with unlimited access to delicious food, people, and no classes so I can probably tolerate another Dietz convo toMorrow without desiring to bash my head into a wall. If RR flips town, Ryker and Swiss get their lynch toMorrow. I'm okay with that.
Although I'm surprised you really don't think that Swiss and Ryker will continue pushing JDeitz even if RR flips scum. I've been in Swiss's position before where I won't be happy, literally can't move on to a new suspect, until my top suspect is dead, Harry Potter: Gheb. He flipped town and it sucked but NOTHING short of that flip was going to get me to do anything else or focus my energies elsewhere.
To start off, a lynch on any of Felipe/Orbo/Dabuz today is a waste of a lynch. They've been far too clueless, far too "out there" to give us good connections in stuff. In addition, most of their posts can also be interpreted as incredibly dumb town; this doesn't make them a guaranteed scum read. The thing is, due to their lack of connections, if they flip town, absolutely nothing is accomplished. Dabuz might get us somewhere , but the other two lynches I won't support
Hallelujah, we've got some actual reasoning from swiss. And I have to admit: it is somewhat convincing.
Ditz's play has been declining. There is a sharp polarization between his early posts, which are at least average, and his posts currently, in which he has degraded himself to simply being a clueless nub, pulling noobcard things that he didn't even try and pull earlier. What really bugs me is his posts in which he calls a QT a "quicktopic thingy" (He should know what a quicktopic is. He has at least one.) It honestly makes what he is saying far less genuine, as if he is pretending to play the noob card. In fact, it's almost a dead giveaway. 1356 reeks of AtE; he's almost given up with that. A tracker on him won't solve anything, as he could easily be a goon and just sit around.
I also want to look at bleck. The fact that they disagree on most stuff and openly admit it also makes it really easy for them to play safe, as it gives them the ability to have a quick escape, regardless of flip (I.E: Ditz flips town, they could go back to one of the posts where they thought he was town. Ditz flips scum, they could go back and find a post where they thought that Ditz was scum) Their disagreements show them playing the middle man.
I'll probably have to finish this later, posted this now to confirm that I wasn't dead.
I like this post from DH, I'd like to see where the rest of his analysis goes but I appreciate that he focused on JDietz because that is clearly one of the most important topics and in the chance that JDietz is lynched toDay, it would be hard to get a genuine opinion from him on the activity surrounding JDietz toMorrow after a flip has already occurred. I also like that he talked about Bleck, who has obviously been more in the background since the day boiled down to RR v. Dietz but his points are nonetheless valid.
dietz is at L-1 now.
I'm going to ignore NL for the rest of this day.
You let Swiss' gambits ride, why not wait this out and at least see what JDeitz's reaction was? Even if you are competing wagons, it would be beneficial to town to see how reacted to NL's comment.
Soooooo, night stuff.
If he flips town, doc Kuz/NL cop Ryker/Swiss. Vig idk.
IF he flips scum, doc Ryker/Swiss/RR, cop NL/Kuz. Vig idk.
No one is on my vig list really, maybe any of the cop targets I guess.
Your vig list is Ryker/Swiss/NL/Kuz?
Other than Kuz (who I'd be okay with getting vigged toNight if not one of Orbo and dabuz) the other three have been extremely active and if they are town will be helpful to town to keep around over inactives. Also it's pointless to have the same people copped as vigged: no use getting a result that someone is town just to have them shot by the vig in the same night.
This is the second time you have asked for a claim from someone (well the first time it was a vague "cop should claim" but it's still just as bad).
July get back in on this, you won't have to club me to death just yet! :D
Every time you post I imagine this:
And I tell myself that lynching you will get connections and information but you are just not scummy and don't make me feel the deep, soul-consuming rage that RR's posts elicit when I read them. And I like NL's policy to give Swiss/Ryker the go-ahead toMorrow if RR flips town, that seems like a fair balance to everything that has happened toDay.
You refuse to full claim.
Offer no crumbs to show you had this role.
You have tried everything you could before this point to bribe and manipulate as badly as you think Swiss and co. have.
Don't treat this the same way, even more so when I don't believe a day lie detector exists here.
I don't find any of the bolded scummy. If his claim is legit, then why does he have to do any of the bolded on D1 and he's not a lynch option? If it's a gambit, why is it anti-town?
Vote: Red Ryu
Scum flip would make me happy, town flip I'll be complacent to follow Swiss and Ryker toMorrow.
