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Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

No Lynch

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Yet you somehow believed that Swiss has super secret info that there isn't a cop in the game. Let's lynch Ryu now.
 

Jdietz43

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I keep coming back here expecting either me having been lynched or a guardian angel swooping down and saving the day with a Ryu lynch at the last moment like a boss... or basically anything other that this lol. I'm really not sure why
 

~Bleck Mang~

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THERE'S SEMEN IN MY WALRUS
To start off, a lynch on any of Felipe/Orbo/Dabuz today is a waste of a lynch. They've been far too clueless, far too "out there" to give us good connections in stuff. In addition, most of their posts can also be interpreted as incredibly dumb town; this doesn't make them a guaranteed scum read. The thing is, due to their lack of connections, if they flip town, absolutely nothing is accomplished. Dabuz might get us somewhere , but the other two lynches I won't support

Hallelujah, we've got some actual reasoning from swiss. And I have to admit: it is somewhat convincing.

Ditz's play has been declining. There is a sharp polarization between his early posts, which are at least average, and his posts currently, in which he has degraded himself to simply being a clueless nub, pulling noobcard things that he didn't even try and pull earlier. What really bugs me is his posts in which he calls a QT a "quicktopic thingy" (He should know what a quicktopic is. He has at least one.) It honestly makes what he is saying far less genuine, as if he is pretending to play the noob card. In fact, it's almost a dead giveaway. 1356 reeks of AtE; he's almost given up with that. A tracker on him won't solve anything, as he could easily be a goon and just sit around.

I also want to look at bleck. The fact that they disagree on most stuff and openly admit it also makes it really easy for them to play safe, as it gives them the ability to have a quick escape, regardless of flip (I.E: Ditz flips town, they could go back to one of the posts where they thought he was town. Ditz flips scum, they could go back and find a post where they thought that Ditz was scum) Their disagreements show them playing the middle man.

I'll probably have to finish this later, posted this now to confirm that I wasn't dead.
K. For EVERYBODY here:

There's a clear and distinct difference between me and J, so it's much easier to read Gorf for Gorf and J for J. If I was playing against Bleck Mang, that's how I'd read it ._. ... I won't fight somebody if they think somthing J did was scummy, and I hope J won't fight my battle when somebody thinks something I did was scummy. I don't get how our reads differing would be telling :ohwell:
 

No Lynch

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Gord I wasn't kidding about the lie detector thing.

I mean, we really should be lynching ryu now, Mang. Lie detector in the day is believable because it's true, ryu. You may think I'm lying, but im Not. God.
 

~Bleck Mang~

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Don't know if I can say you're lying. Especially since you don't have a reason not to... Ruy would be the next best lynch choice assuming you'd be telling the truth. Plus if you're not it's obvious you're lying so :p

Unvote Vote: Red Ruy

Orbo/Dabuz/DH, wanna come to this wagon?
 

vanderzant

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Edit: A deadline is set for Midnight 12.00 AM 03/05/11 EST. This is in approximately 24 Hours!

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Red Ryu has been Silenced, and any votes they cast will not be counted for the remainder of the Day!

Voting (11):
Jdietz43 (5): Swiss, Ryker, Orboknown, felipe_9595, Rockin,
Red Ryu (4): Jdietz43, dabuz, No Lynch, Bleck Mang,
Orboknown (1): th3kuzinator
Swiss (1): Dark Horse


Not Voting (2):
Red Ryu
July
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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He has nothing to lose... If Dietz is scum he gets lynched... Why would he be...
Either he full claims or there is no reason to trust him. He wants to avoid a Dietz lynch as much as possible, for god knows of multiple reasons.

Him trying to appeal to Ryker off getting others to claim, him pretty much riding others to join with him.

And if he is.

Why does this set up have a miller as well? There is no reason to put a miller with a lie detector, because Cop + Lie detector is stupid in a small set-up.

Sold would never approve it.
 

Jdietz43

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Idk maybe there's lots of mafia? Or one really powerful one who will be hard to track?

I have no idea nor do I care lol, I'm too busy thanking my lucky stars that something entirely awesome is happening in this game and I haven't failed us all just yet
 

No Lynch

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NL I love you full homo

Man it feels so good having two browsers.
I know right. I've been doing the same thing with my Zim account.
Either he full claims or there is no reason to trust him. He wants to avoid a Dietz lynch as much as possible, for god knows of multiple reasons.

Him trying to appeal to Ryker off getting others to claim, him pretty much riding others to join with him.

And if he is.

Why does this set up have a miller as well? There is no reason to put a miller with a lie detector, because Cop + Lie detector is stupid in a small set-up.

Sold would never approve it.
Speculation of the set up will lead us no where good. For one Vandy mentioned that this was a pretty experimental set up and two that's just not a good way to play. You should never assume you know what roles there are and aren't. I've been in games where a miller was there simply as a redhearing with no cop. I believe Vandy has as well so that is definitely a possibility.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I know right. I've been doing the same thing with my Zim account.
Speculation of the set up will lead us no where good. For one Vandy mentioned that this was a pretty experimental set up and two that's just not a good way to play. You should never assume you know what roles there are and aren't. I've been in games where a miller was there simply as a redhearing with no cop. I believe Vandy has as well so that is definitely a possibility.
Provide proof of this.

Quotes.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Gorf, J has told me Zen has lied about cop guilties to get the lynch he wants, J was the cop in that game. Even ask him yourself, I wouldn't put it past him to do this as well.
 

Rockin

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You mean like you did? lol. It wouldn't be his first reaction to look back if he thought the day could end at any point. But even if he did, that would be a part of looking for his reaction. Say he looked back to see if he was hammered before answer my question. What would be his motivation for looking back? Only scum would have that motivation, because they wouldn't want to accidentally claim before they were even lynched. Town, however would just flat out claim that they were town, and then possibly look back or not even at all.

People don't try too hard with the game, Rockin. We just actually use our minds when playing.

No.

People try too damn hard. Also, as town I would (mostly, because I'm stubborn) wouldn't claim no matter what. Only time I would claim is when it's actually beneficial. Not everyone is going to do the same thing.


Listen here everyone:

We have till TOMORROW to lynch someone. I want to remind everyone how important a Dietz lynch/ANY lynch is. Between the two players (Red Ryu and JDietz), it is most reccommanded we lynch Jdietz. By lynching him now, we would elimiate someone who

- could possibly be a liability
- A player's slot who would almost always be questioned by in the back of your head ('is...is he really town?'


By lynching him NOW, we could MOVE FORWARD with new information to talk about, and those people currently on the wagon (myself included) would try and find other people who we feel is scum. We would have new leads. New connections. More people to pressure.

by NOT LYNCHING him, everything would most likely be the same

July would still think Red Ryu is scum
Ryker and swiss would still dog Jdietz
No Lynch would still defend him and throw his votes whereever he wants
inactives would still be inactive
Bleck Maeg would be...Bleck Maeg...
And we would have....5-10% of new information, mainly regarding NKs (if there would be any)

and D3 and D4 and so one would possibly be the same thing...except the numbers would be smaller and our info would be smaller. And then there would be that cruicial MYLO moment where we'd have to really be careful and then (if Jdietz is even alive at the time) and then we'd be like '........well ****.....'

[This is just my vision of a worst case scenario I would REALLY like to avoid]/

I've seen this type of thing happen a few times in games. One of them was my modded 'Decisive Games Mafia' where people flip flopped badly on Chibo (it wasn't as bad as this, but town didn't progress all that far regardless.

so please.

Decide NOW. Decide on a lynch, and QUICK.

Now tell me...
 

Jdietz43

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Do this now as well.
Ok: I know most people won't take this as anything unless I find them, but I swear I saw that this game was supposed to be at least a bit experimental, because I remember thinking when joining: "Oh good, a slightly non-standard game to cut my teeth on with more leeway"

I'll try to see if I can find where I got that idea from
 
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