"Shield Toggling"

[Renth]

I went to a tournament not to long ago and I was doing something, when other players saw me doing it they were confused and when they tried to imitate it, they were doing it all wrong. I would toggle between light and heavy shield very quickly, when others saw me try to do it they would lightly press down the L/R button to try to get the same effect.

I showed Hungrybox, RockCrock, Project, Skratch and others none of them knew they could do this, granted I believe this technique completely useless and hardly worth knowing I found it interesting I stumbled on something no one else seemed to know about.


How to do:

Hold down the L/R button while also holding in the A button then press Z. every time you press Z your shield will change between light and heavy, that is how i was flickering between shields very quickly for entertainment.

My question.

Who else knew about this silly thing? is it as useless as I think it is? and Why is it so fun to toggle your shield very rapidly? Also, why does holding L/R+A then tapping Z cause the toggle?

 

[The Star King]

I knew about it but only because I saw some random post about it somewhere.

 

[Morin0]

I saw Mew2King do it and I could do it ever since then.

 

[Myztek]

HyperDragon in my area loves to do this between stocks.
I read it somewhere a long time ago, and just showed everyone I played with.

Edit: I'm not sure if it has any legitimate uses besides confusion. I've considered trying it to disrupt shield pressure, but never really did it, but it sounds maybe useful.

 

[Lovage]

the kdj

 

[Shadow Huan]

the kdj

this. i saw KDJ do this at a mass madness and watched his fingers. been able to do it ever since. don't know if it has an application tho

 

[Construct]

I accidentally started doing it on Dolphin and figured it out from there. That being said, I haven't really found a use for it aside from looking cool.

 

[Wizzrobe]

Pretty interesting trick. Maybe it could be used as a mindgame lol.

 

[Morin0]

I think it just leaves you vulnerable unless you do it in between stocks.

 

[Twinkles]

Do you even have to hold A?
I believe I do that just by holding R and mashing Z (you grab first, but then your shield toggles).

It's something good to know when you're trying to do a Marth-killer

 

[Wizzrobe]

Do you even have to hold A?
I believe I do that just by holding R and mashing Z (you grab first, but then your shield toggles).

It's something good to know when you're trying to do a Marth-killer

Yes, you have to hold A for it to work. If you hold R while pressing Z then you will just grab. if you hold Z while pressing R then nothing will change.

 

[Geenareeno]

I think the usefulness of it comes from messing up their l-cancel timing, no? And taking less sheild damage, if i'm thinking of the right thing.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

i thought you could do it by lightshielding with one trigger, and alternating hard and light shield with the other shield. i figure something similar is how IC's do hard/light shield, but i have absolutely no idea how that works.

 

[odinNJ]

abate showed me this, he loved doing it while wavedashing

 

[Arcadia157]

I first saw KDJ do it. I figured he was lightshielding with L or R and constantly pressing the other to give that effect. It worked the same way as the described in the original post, but I guess pressing Z is easier/faster.

 

[Dan Salvato]

This works because the check for Z light-shield happens BEFORE the check for L/R shield. This means the Z shield has priority. It shields instead of grabs while holding A because this is the normal behavior for the Z button; if you push Z while holding A, you will light-shield instead of grab.

 

[MT_]

There's actually another way to do this (the one that I figured out after I saw M2K do this). Do a lightshield with L and hold, then push down/let go R (works with buttons reversed of course).


EDIT: oops someone already mentioned this lol

 

[darkatma]

I wonder if it could actually mess up L cancel timing for more technical players..
someone remind me to try this on foxes..

 

[Renth]

I wonder if it could actually mess up L cancel timing for more technical players..
someone remind me to try this on foxes..

Try this on foxes.

 

[Krynxe]

I knew about this lol