sHell's Wario Guide*UPDATED*AUG17 More Matchup changes

[Blue sHell]

Wario's UAir autocancels when executed right before landing. The hitbox still comes out as well.
Also, a rising BAir will finish before you hit the ground allowing for a NAir or UAir to comes out before landing.

Nothing new, all his aerials are auto cancelable.

 

[alphameric]

Wasn't in the guide, so I'm just making sure it's common knowledge

 

[okiyama]

Guys I found a way to gimp MK recovering but it takes some timing, I did it yesterday not entirely on purpose.

MK is recovering after a blistering FSmash from you, you run right up the ledge and begin to charge your Fsmash. Right when he begins his UpB you release it. If timed almost perfectly you will hit him and your superarmor will save you from any knockback.

This only works on MK though because he doesn't sweetspot at the beggining or his UpB.

 

[Hizkit]

This guide helped me out alot. Thank you.

 

[OrionX1989]

anyone who has advice i need a little help. i main wario and pit and i need help with how to beat zelda and climbers. main how to get around chain grabs and zeldas up smash spamming. since wario seems to be a very aerial intesive fighter i was hoping for a few tips on zeldas high priority. any help is aprriciated.

 

[Classic Yayo]

For that wavedach tech. can you only do upsmash out of the dash? Can you do other smashes or tilts?

 

[hoopspr226]

sHell:

You forgot to include Wario's dash attack in his moveset.

 

[Doctor Destructo]

For that wavedach tech. can you only do upsmash out of the dash? Can you do other smashes or tilts?

Only your Up-Smash, hence why it's only useful for some characters.

 

[Drab Emordnilap]

You can do a Bair with the ledge-canceled aerials, too. Not that it's very useful.

 

[Doctor Destructo]

You can do a Bair with the ledge-canceled aerials, too. Not that it's very useful.

Do you still get horrible lag with it? If not, that could prove to be a decent KO move, especially when unused.

 

[PIMPSLAP]

I'm sorry whats the infinite i'm hearing about here guys?

 

[Doctor Destructo]

I'm sorry whats the infinite i'm hearing about here guys?

Which one? Yoshi's infinite on Wario? The double-Wario infinite? Those are the only ones I can think of.

 

[PIMPSLAP]

Which one? Yoshi's infinite on Wario? The double-Wario infinite? Those are the only ones I can think of.

how about both i picked wario back up to counter a cuople charecters i had trouble with in my last tourny. thanks for your time.

 

[Doctor Destructo]

how about both i picked wario back up to counter a cuople charecters i had trouble with in my last tourny. thanks for your time.

Well, it was said that Yoshi had an infinite on Wario, but it was disproved as it only worked on computer Warios.

Two Warios can infinite someone else by having one Bite, throw, the other one catches with a Bite, throw, etc.

 

[PIMPSLAP]

Well, it was said that Yoshi had an infinite on Wario, but it was disproved as it only worked on computer Warios.

Two Warios can infinite someone else by having one Bite, throw, the other one catches with a Bite, throw, etc.

hmmmm.... could you link me 2 them plz i would like to learn it thanks
can't wario like 8 other charecters infinite Cg Ness And lucas? just wondering.?

 

[Doctor Destructo]

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hmmmm.... could you link me 2 them plz i would like to learn it thanks
can't wario like 8 other charecters infinite Cg Ness And lucas? just wondering.?

I don't know any videos for those two, and yeah, Wario can infinite Ness and Lucas with just grabs and pummels.

EDIT: I think?

 

[PIMPSLAP]

I don't know any videos for those two, and yeah, Wario can infinite Ness and Lucas with just grabs and pummels.

EDIT: I think?

hmmm ok thanks i guess is there a thread link maybe?

 

[Doctor Destructo]

hmmm ok thanks i guess is there a thread link maybe?

It'd be in the Ness/Lucas forums.

 

[PUDGE]

hey Blue Shell i just wanted to see if you could test it and put it in, i read that u say F smash out of shield is amazing, i wanted to throw out there that if you obviously hold shield a little bit before your opponents attack, u may slide back a little and F smash is useless, if u time it correctly u don't slide, BUT, the time to let go of shield can be devastating when your playing QUICK characters, i tested this and saw that if u stationary dodge then f smash without having your shield come back up aka, shield, press down let go of shield right as u hit down then f smash, it takes less frames which means its quick and u dont get knockback from them hitting u while your shield'

 

[PhantomX]

hey Blue Shell i just wanted to see if you could test it and put it in, i read that u say F smash out of shield is amazing, i wanted to throw out there that if you obviously hold shield a little bit before your opponents attack, u may slide back a little and F smash is useless, if u time it correctly u don't slide, BUT, the time to let go of shield can be devastating when your playing QUICK characters, i tested this and saw that if u stationary dodge then f smash without having your shield come back up aka, shield, press down let go of shield right as u hit down then f smash, it takes less frames which means its quick and u dont get knockback from them hitting u while your shield'

The problem w/ this is generally during your dodge animation and startup for the Fsmash they'll have time to pull out their own spotdodge and then everyone gets into this spotdodge dance situation (hella annoying, btw -_-)... if you just tank their hit w/ good timing you'll definitely get the smash in, at least.

 

[Ramses99]

say Blue sHell, what's your opinion on the dtilt? You only mention it a little in your guide. I've always thought the move was pretty good for wario as he could obviously follow up with aeriels but from videos i've seen of good Warios, the move is barely used. Are fsmash and ftilt simply much better options on the ground or is this move easily shielded and punished.

 

[Blue sHell]

Personally, I only use downtilt if I need a fast start up long range move. But the other uses I've seen some Wario's use I'm not too big of a fan of(like after fairs and to continue combos).

If you happen to downtilt on a shielding opponent, inevitably they will counterattack or grab you. But vs many many people fsmash pushes them out of a range in which they could grab you unless if your fighting a tether user. Also using fsmash in the situations where you would use dtilt outcomes in more damage anyway.

I understand that the slight pop up makes people nervous and usually makes them mistime their airdodge because they are so next to the ground. But once they figure out that if they just do an attack instead that Wario can't followup. You could always see this coming and follow up with something in return though.

Personally if I ever want to pop someone slightly to mindgame-combo them I use jabs instead. Jabs pop you up almost the same angle as downtilt, has less ending lag, good startup lag, and instead of finishing the jab 2hit combo you could jab>grab or jab>fsmash instead.

 

[Germanydabassist]

YEAH! Go Wario <3 <3 <3
I saw Blue_sHell's vids in brawl and I am now converted to maining in wario! =DDD

 

[omegablade]

dam i liked wario but who know there was so much he cold do XD

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

Any snake players that I play now recover immediately and high because they are afraid of getting their recovery chomped lol. I've had to motorcycle jump to reach them and gimp.

 

[PhantomX]

Shell, you ever vs. Stomps on GB? He's so much fun to play against, haha.

 

[W-man]

Eating stuff do not increases his fart ! That's easy to test it in training mode, you make a dozen caraps appear and you eat them whole, no change. And there was a video showing you could get a 0% KO with Wario-man's fart, and it was BLUE. If that wasn't a joke... that was a blasphem ! (I never managed... did I miss something ?)

Otherwise, GREAT guide. With people around me saying Wario appeared pretty weak I didn't at first realised that he had so much manipulating potential. Thank you !

 

[Goodstyle]

Thanks to sHell and other great wario players, Wario is in the top 5 best tourney performence characters!
No joke!

 

[PhantomX]

Who else is there? Snake and Metaknight are a given.

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

I think Marth and D3/GaW take the other two.

 

[Blue sHell]

Thanks to sHell and other great wario players, Wario is in the top 5 best tourney performence characters!
No joke!

Haha, awesome. Take that other character boards.

I absolutely swear now that Wario will be very very commonly used when people learn what he could do. So just get ready for ALOT of people to jump on the bandwagon and start using him once his potential is realized by others. Seriously, lol.

Watch out, the prophecy is coming true

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

Good thing people aren't jumping on the bandwagon right now, most of the frequent people on these boards have been here from the start :D

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Wario is very under-used IMO

I like that.

I'm always the only Wario at every tournament lol (except the tourney that Tink was at).

It's like a sideshow, people are like "Hey, it's a Wario. Hold on, I gotta watch this"

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

Lol, I haven't played in a tournament setting for brawl yet (Except for that one time.. before brawl came out. But most people weren't good at that point) I will soon eventually though, possibly next week at CoTIII. Whenever I meet new players they get the same reaction "Wow, I thought Wario was terrible"

I just hope he stays underused though, because compared to all the other good characters he has tons more mindgames and has a learning curve.

Blue shell, you should try to become a mod for these boards. That would be awesome since we need a active mod.

 

[PhantomX]

Fortunately Wario has a bit of a learning curve, and that might put off some of the lamer players... I would cringe if people started playing Wario frequently and the large majority were terrible D:

 

[Endless Nightmares]

He'd be the new Ike! D:

 

[Warlock*G]

The new Ike?! O_O

*throws up*

 

[Rocann]

shell is easy :-p

 

[Blue sHell]

Andeh is sessy.

*boner slaps Rocann*

 

[Warlock*G]

o_O

*Throws up again*