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I am of the personal opinion that Shaymin-S aka Skymin is totally overpowered. However, I also think that it has MUCH more potential than is currently being used.
So far, here's the most common set being used (it hasn't been out long enough to have a "standard" set).
Skymin @ Leftovers/ Life Orb
Timid
Serene Grace
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spd
Seed Flare
Air Slash
Earth Power
Substitute
So far I've seen honorable mentions for ditching any of the above moves sans Air Slash for HP Ice, Leech Seed, etc. among other sets. I want to break this particular set, that is a special attacker with no particular gimmicks. We also have to consider Wide Lens, Yache Berry, Expert Belt, Lum Berry, etc. No SD or growth sets for this. I'll post mine as an example:
Skymin @ Yache Berry
Timid
Serene Grace
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spd
Seed Flare
Air Slash
Earth Power
Substitute
I think Skymin is so amazing that if you Sub as a counter switches in, it's not really a counter anymore. However, this requires Stealth Rock in place to void Focus Sash and to bring him in on the revenge turn (not really hard in either case) to hopefully force a switch.
Skymin uses Yache Berry the same way Garchomp does. Aside from LO/CB Mamoswine, it can take SR and still eat stab Ice Shard like a champ. Without SR, it takes those too. Also, while a Sub won't use your berry when it, being at 50% from both SR and 1 sub will severely knock down your chances of survival from an ice move. Skymin doesn't mind them nearly as much at 75% health.
What I'm looking for: expansion on this particular set. This ranges to new moves, natures, EV spreads, and holds items so long as they're not gimmick sets. Let's see how far we can take this thing.
So far, here's the most common set being used (it hasn't been out long enough to have a "standard" set).
Skymin @ Leftovers/ Life Orb
Timid
Serene Grace
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spd
Seed Flare
Air Slash
Earth Power
Substitute
So far I've seen honorable mentions for ditching any of the above moves sans Air Slash for HP Ice, Leech Seed, etc. among other sets. I want to break this particular set, that is a special attacker with no particular gimmicks. We also have to consider Wide Lens, Yache Berry, Expert Belt, Lum Berry, etc. No SD or growth sets for this. I'll post mine as an example:
Skymin @ Yache Berry
Timid
Serene Grace
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spd
Seed Flare
Air Slash
Earth Power
Substitute
I think Skymin is so amazing that if you Sub as a counter switches in, it's not really a counter anymore. However, this requires Stealth Rock in place to void Focus Sash and to bring him in on the revenge turn (not really hard in either case) to hopefully force a switch.
Skymin uses Yache Berry the same way Garchomp does. Aside from LO/CB Mamoswine, it can take SR and still eat stab Ice Shard like a champ. Without SR, it takes those too. Also, while a Sub won't use your berry when it, being at 50% from both SR and 1 sub will severely knock down your chances of survival from an ice move. Skymin doesn't mind them nearly as much at 75% health.
What I'm looking for: expansion on this particular set. This ranges to new moves, natures, EV spreads, and holds items so long as they're not gimmick sets. Let's see how far we can take this thing.