Shadow Games Mafia Over: Dgames Doomed

[#HBC | Kary]

@Kary: Right now I'm considering you my go to town bro. I'm sure you have probably said this before, but out of Zalak, Adum, and Kantrip who would you like to lynch today? I'm sure you have someone you really want to lynch outside of these, and I'll make sure to take not e of that when I finish my reread.

the question is kinda moot because I don't think they're all on the table. At the moment I think I'd lynch adum > Zalak > Kantrip.

 

[Zalak]

the question is kinda moot because I don't think they're all on the table. At the moment I think I'd lynch adum > Zalak > Kantrip.

You asked me for reads at the end of yesterDay, too. And then you didn't follow it up at all toDay. Which leads me to believe it doesn't really matter to you what my reads are. If you really care you can ask me Day 3.

I'm probably going to vote Gheb tomorrow given that several people seem unwilling to budge on this issue, and he's probably a better flip than say, Kantrip. I'm not putting him to L-whatever and then coming back to his quicklynch, if it's all the same.

wha

 

[adumbrodeus]

You asked me for reads at the end of yesterDay, too. And then you didn't follow it up at all toDay. Which leads me to believe it doesn't really matter to you what my reads are. If you really care you can ask me Day 3.

I'm probably going to vote Gheb tomorrow given that several people seem unwilling to budge on this issue, and he's probably a better flip than say, Kantrip. I'm not putting him to L-whatever and then coming back to his quicklynch, if it's all the same.

Yes I did and you still haven't provided any real stances, over the course of two days.

The fact is this conversation brought back how stunningly concerned you are about leaving any sort of papertrail which I find immensly suspicious. I never claimed to be somebody immune to distraction but it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do.

That reminds me how unconcerned you are of being nightkilled.

 

[Zalak]

NEVERMIND NEVERMIND I DIDN'T ACTUALLY READ THE POST YOU WERE RESPONDING TO

 

[Zalak]

Yes I did and you still haven't provided any real stances, over the course of two days.

The fact is this conversation brought back how stunningly concerned you are about leaving any sort of papertrail which I find immensly suspicious. I never claimed to be somebody immune to distraction but it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do.

That reminds me how unconcerned you are of being nightkilled.

This post is spot on, and the second part is perfectly in-line with what i was trying to say at the dawn of this day.

Unvote, Vote: Kary

Kary you have ZERO reason not to post your reads.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Yes I did and you still haven't provided any real stances, over the course of two days.

The fact is this conversation brought back how stunningly concerned you are about leaving any sort of papertrail which I find immensly suspicious. I never claimed to be somebody immune to distraction but it's pretty obvious what you're trying to do.

That reminds me how unconcerned you are of being nightkilled.

I told you already, if you really care, you can ask me tomorrow. I find it hard to believe that one hand, you seriously think I'm trying to avoid leaving a papertrail, and on the other hand, you somehow forgot to ask me for reads.

'unconcerned of being nightkilled?' Now you're just making up anything to justify your read, dude.

 

[Zalak]

Just post the reads.

 

[Zalak]

Seriously, you're just using your dispute with Adum as an excuse not to post any reads.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I told you already, if you really care, you can ask me tomorrow. I find it hard to believe that one hand, you seriously think I'm trying to avoid leaving a papertrail, and on the other hand, you somehow forgot to ask me for reads.

Because I'm the first person to forget to follow up on issues with other slots until I came into conflict with them again?

Reads are something you should've posted on your own, you don't necessarily need a nice little list but stating your opinions on slots and making pushes on ones you find scummy is a basic part of the game.

The fact that you haven't changed that is part of why my opinion on your slot hasn't budged an inch since last game day.

'unconcerned of being nightkilled?' Now you're just making up anything to justify your read, dude.

Really?

I'll take the risk that I die tonight, but I appreciate your concern.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

You're sheeping adum as an excuse to look like you're doing something. It's not as if I have a ****ing clipboard here with a full detailed reads list I'm keeping from you. It's ****ing 4am. I am not typing up a bunch of thoughts that don't really have any interesting conclusions just to satisfy a couple players who think 'hurr durr, no reads = scummy'. I already posted my thoughts on toDay's lynch, it's 4am, I am getting the **** out of here.

In terms of who to lynch today? I am struggling to care at this point. Looking at the playerlist is honestly a bit of a crapshoot given such little activity from some slots. I can probably lynch Gheb? adum? idk. now would be a really good time for someone to make a case, because deadline is tomorrow night.

I still need to think about FML some. The possibility that they have a vigilante safeclaim is definitely there, and the extra icing of being a paranoid cop doesn't fit with the other claims so far.

 

[Zalak]

You're sheeping adum as an excuse to look like you're doing something. It's not as if I have a ****ing clipboard here with a full detailed reads list I'm keeping from you. It's ****ing 4am. I am not typing up a bunch of thoughts that don't really have any interesting conclusions just to satisfy a couple players who think 'hurr durr, no reads = scummy'. I already posted my thoughts on toDay's lynch, it's 4am, I am getting the **** out of here.

Why not just say that then? I don't actually expect you to respond to this tonight though, because sleep is important

 

[adumbrodeus]

You kary, seem to thrive on creating distractions, saying as little as possible about yourself while making it appear you say a great deal.

Picking meaningless fights, trying to prevent anyone else from from discussing somebody who was currently the center of focus, generally trying to position yourself to lead town, making yourself appear townie while providing no material to potentially impeach your play.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Because I'm the first person to forget to follow up on issues with other slots until I came into conflict with them again?

It must be hard keeping track of four different playerslots with three of them posting.

You know, some people would say your timing is opportunistic.

Really?

You literally think that post from me is telling?

*picardface.jpg*

 

[adumbrodeus]

You're sheeping adum as an excuse to look like you're doing something. It's not as if I have a ****ing clipboard here with a full detailed reads list I'm keeping from you. It's ****ing 4am. I am not typing up a bunch of thoughts that don't really have any interesting conclusions just to satisfy a couple players who think 'hurr durr, no reads = scummy'. I already posted my thoughts on toDay's lynch, it's 4am, I am getting the **** out of here.

Everybody should be able to literally go down the playlist and have at the very least an opinion of every slot in the game. Even if that opinion is null. Why are you so amendment about not doing even that?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

You kary, seem to thrive on creating distractions, saying as little as possible about yourself while making it appear you say a great deal.

Picking meaningless fights, trying to prevent anyone else from from discussing somebody who was currently the center of focus, generally trying to position yourself to lead town, making yourself appear townie while providing no material to potentially impeach your play.

You're full of ****.

 

[Zalak]

KARY I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO YOUR POST BUT FIRST, PLEASE JUST GO TO SLEEP.

Seriously, it's way too late in your timezone to get caught up in a mafia argument.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

tell that to the self-righteous dude in the other corner

 

[Zalak]

You don't need to respond to him at 4:00 AM

now sleep

 

[Zalak]

@ JeXs YO, I see that you are currently viewing the thread. Got any thoughts about recent events?

 

[adumbrodeus]

It must be hard keeping track of four different playerslots with three of them posting.

You know, some people would say your timing is opportunistic.

Because those certainly were the only player slots I interacted with or talked about.

Opportunistic? Who exactly is supporting a lynch on you with you? You picked a fight with me because you disagreed with my read and this conversation came of this. How exactly is this opportunistic?

You literally think that post from me is telling?

*picardface.jpg*

Little trick I learned from kata, scum isn't generally concerned about getting nightkilled (and this was before we had 3 claimed vigs), sometimes they leave statements to that effect.

 

[JeXs]

@ JeXs YO, I see that you are currently viewing the thread. Got any thoughts about recent events?

Pointless argument

 

[Zalak]

Pointless argument

Any thoughts on whom we should lynch?

 

[JeXs]

Any thoughts on whom we should lynch?

Check out my vote

 

[FullMetalLynch]

If it's not important, why did you bring it up? It wasn't like I was criticizing the townreads of others, I merely gave my opinion that the events were inconclusive. Similarly the only error in events was yours.



And why haven't you been actually taking stances.

My reads may not have changed much, but besides me being town early toDay and FML probably being town you seem unwilling to take real stances. Even when directly asked. Zalak has commented on this as well and you still refused to answer his question, you merely respond with a redirect.

Heck we're approaching deadline and you're not even voting.

So why are you taking discussions that you think will go nowhere, tossing insults in an attempt to provoke fights, and refusing to take stances? It's a perfect illustration of why I find your slot scummy.



And again my criticism of your conduct this isn't a criticism of you calling my arguments bad, this is a criticism of you saying things like this:



Heck, day one you even gloated because you thought you got under my skin.

Have some basic decorum.

Stance on kary? You've talked about him a lot without really saying anything on if he's scum/town iirc.

Jexy top town and scum reads? Whatchu think lf kantrip
Kantrip adum vs kary opinions?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I've never been 100% of Adum, but he's always been at least a mafia lean for me. I only voted with Adum because I felt the deadline pressure. In the end, I tried to stop the BarD lynch, but I was too late, and he had already been hammered. I vote when others vote to apply pressure to whomever they're voting for. It's my signature move. My strong reaction to Adum's town-read on me was partially due to pride, and partially because I thought it was way too early to be town-reading me. Other than that, I think I've been pretty calm when it comes to my slot?

if ye have any questions, i'll answer em

Your signature move looks a lot like you not having an idea what to do fyi

 

[Zalak]

Your signature move looks a lot like you not having an idea what to do fyi

That's why I employ it only in the early game, when I had no idea what to do.

 

[Zalak]

when I HAVE no idea what to do**

also FML what are your top/bottom lynches?

 

[JeXs]

Stance on kary? You've talked about him a lot without really saying anything on if he's scum/town iirc.

Jexy top town and scum reads? Whatchu think lf kantrip
Kantrip adum vs kary opinions?

DSH Gheb

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Pointless argument

Opinions of alignments in said argument?

 

[JeXs]

Opinions of alignments in said argument?

What????

 

[FullMetalLynch]

when I HAVE no idea what to do**

also FML what are your top/bottom lynches?

atm probably gheb and least likely dsh or adum.

DSH Gheb

may i ask why?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

What????

What do you think the alignment is of the people in the argument

 

[Zalak]

why gheb, fullmetal?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

why gheb, fullmetal?

Look at what rake posted on yhe matter and still having not done anything od value.

 

[JeXs]

What do you think the alignment is of the people in the argument

I think kary is townier than adum and Zalak. Dislike adum the most.

 

[Zalak]

Look at what rake posted on yhe matter and still having not done anything od value.

WHICH PAGE

 

[adumbrodeus]

Another thing that struck me on Kary's play:

Dude, I was answering your question, with my own question. Does it not bother you that adum can go 'hmm I can see JeXs jumping on the claim train' when it's blindingly obvious if you read the thread that JeXs had some ulterior motive to be pushing FML on their claim in the first place. Maybe he actually just pulls his reads out of his *** and sticks to them, I don't know. Or maybe he's not even trying to read people.

It seems like the reason she's trying to push me as scum is because she says that she doesn't believe I'm trying to read people, because I apparently stick to my reads even if she consider them "horse****".

Yet Kary was clearly proven wrong in her 1027 assertions that JeXs' "reasons" statement was made to justify his FML vote in my timeline in my 1043. At which point her 1051 treated that evidence as "some idiotic horse****", while acknowledging I was correct but not even considering budging about the obviousness of JeXs' claim in spite of the complete change in the premises which her argument was based on. Meanwhile I just admitted to a mistake and dropped something a few pages back.

Seems like her argument is better applied to her.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Stance on kary? You've talked about him a lot without really saying anything on if he's scum/town iirc.

Jexy top town and scum reads? Whatchu think lf kantrip
Kantrip adum vs kary opinions?

I've made it quite clear that kary's on my scum rungs, right after kantrip and gheb.

 

[Maven89]

I haven't finished reading this last page, but my Jex argument is pretty basic. Jex was going around asking if me or Gheb had extra roles, then said he'd explain why he was doing this "tomorrow". That's a pretty blatant role hint, as if he was a tracker or something, but then he turned around and claimed one-shot vig. Ok, so was his question about the roles somehow related to his vig? I'm not sure why he'd ask that question, since it doesn't tell him anything on if we're scum or not, and if we're both scum then we could clearly just lie about it. But no, he still refused to explain his earlier question and why he wanted to wait until tomorrow. I honestly cannot see a single reason why Jex would ask those questions if it wasn't related to his role, and if it was related to the role he had he'd have no reason to not explain himself after role claiming.

With that, it's be Jex/Kantrip as the obvious answer.

Gheb honestly did alleviate concerns I had, because I think he was right that we're mainly focusing on how much we all hate ghebplay then real specifics of his role. Saving me as a neighbor doesn't make much sense from a scum perspective, it wasn't something I had an answer for then. And in the end I don't find any clear partners for him. I'm aware this is a flip but having Gheb at 80% is pretty ridiculous.

Right now I just want Jex to explain himself

 

[Zalak]

@Gheb_01

Would you be cool with posting your flavor? Assuming you're town, I think that might make people slightly less concerned about you.