Self Confidence and Self Esteem

[Vinylic.]

Then it just got awkward.

 

[Spelt]

~0 ~

 

[Vinylic.]

Being a sumo takes away stress.

 

[Chris the Ripper]

Jr High more stressful

 

[Alien Vision]

A bully is just as much as a victim as you are.

They probably have no conscious for another, and act through their own way to protect themselves from weakness. So they use you as a catalyst to advocate their illusion of strength.

 

[§witch]

A bully is just as much as a victim as you are.

They probably have no conscious for another, and act through their own way to protect themselves from weakness. So they use you as a catalyst to advocate their illusion of strength.

F u c k off. I liked it better when you were banned.

 

[Alien Vision]

I shared my perspective regarding the OP.

What is wrong with that? Stop trying to cause a flame war. I'm not here to start trouble.

 

[frotaz37]

Yeah I dunno Switch...I'd say Alien Vision actually made a very solid point.

This time.

I guess I'll be the ******* that says the obvious: What Alien Vision said about bullies being victims isn't ALWAYS true, as some people just want to see others suffer. But yeah, that kinda goes without saying.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

I know, I don't like Alien Vision.

You should be banned.

Again.

lol

 

[Alien Vision]

Frotaz, I agree with what you said, but the question is: Why do they want to see people suffer? What made them that way? This is why they are just as much as a victim either way, because they are stuck in a world that can punish ours without any remorse.

 

[Spelt]

I liked it better when you were banned.

Everyone did.

 

[frotaz37]

Well dude, it's like that quote from Batman: "Some men just want to watch the world burn."

While I agree that a lot of bullies are victims, to say they all are takes away the burden of personal responsibility, which I don't agree with because there are some crazy people out there who know exactly how awful the things they do are. To call them victims is giving them way too much credit.

 

[Alien Vision]

As much as it credits them for their actions. I am talking about them as a human being, a character that stemmed from the same roots that we all have. I just can't see how my own race sits here and picks on something weaker when they could just pick on something bigger, and that already explains why. They are scared, and are cowards with illogical ways to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Like, can you see that there has to be a reason for these unruly actions? How they are able to hurt somebody without feeling anything from it. How numb they are to reality. It just intrigues me :/

Is it anger? Is it a twisted judgment? Is it cowering inside? Were they raised wrong? Chemical imbalance? I believe there is a cause & an effect in everything to be honest.

 

[frotaz37]

I think everyone is a product of the environment they were brought up in in one way or another, so you're definitely right about their being a cause & effect...um..effect....present in every decision that a person makes, even if it doesn't completely determine the outcome of their actions. This is almost turning into a conversation about whether or not free will exist, which is a whole different discussion entirely lol.

As far as being able to hurt somebody without feeling anything from it? It could be psychopathy, narcissistic personality disorder, or a combination of the two. There are very extensive articles on both conditions available on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

I suppose certain other conditions like psychosis could be an explanation as well, but people with psychosis are so disconnected from reality you would be able to tell there's something wrong with them just by just hearing them talk. It also could be, like you were saying (at least I think you were, you're a bit hard to understand sometimes XD), simple cause and effect. Also, I would imagine few people are born with these conditions, so I guess you could say that cause and effect is responsible for that as well. I am no expert on mental health though, so don't quote me on that.

hmmm...

It's a tough thing to "get", because people who are incapable of hurting others without feeling any sense of remorse will probably never truly understand the feeling. Your best bet is probably to like... imagine how it feels to crush an annoying bug and then copy and paste that emotion onto a mental image of you hurting another person.

 

[Alien Vision]

I am enjoying this Frotaz. I would like to share an interesting concept though. It's flawed, but.. here:

What if.. There is ignorance still amongst us? What if there is something that is blinding us from understanding something alot more. What if alot of the medical terms were just a label to place on things that happened, and never really was a physical structure. For an example:

Humans are hyperchondriacs because why? They think they have all of these diseases, and illnesses. I lol'd so hard at this because what the hell were these scientists thinking? No, they are not hyperchondriacs. They are humans who are searching for being special. I think alot of people indirectly like being ill because it makes their life easier. People look at you with sympathy, etc. As I said, it's flawed.. but, I am getting somewhere with it.

So what if this psychopathy, anti-socialism, etc are just labels with no real purpose but as an alias just like our names, and what really lies under these terms is the real physical structure; in which, psychological elements our body gives off through not understanding what our subconscious is capable of. Don't get me wrong.. I know humans have anger and stuff, but have you ever gotten mad out of the blue for no reason? There has to be something brewing inside our heads somewhere, in each and every one of us. IMO

Yea, this is getting convoluted.. I hope you can read this, lol.

 

[frotaz37]

Are you saying something like...

Terms used to describe certain conditions that are defined by the field of psychology are broad generalizations that in reality describe countless unique conditions?

 

[Alien Vision]

You got it!

 

[Falconv1.0]

Everyone did.

It's sad that this isn't 100% true.

>:[

 

[Alien Vision]

Why is it sad, mhmm?

 

[frotaz37]

My experiences with people and with psychologists have lead me to believe exactly that.

I know it might sound like a SUPER EXTREME point of view but I think the field of psychology, in its current state, is for the post part a con and shouldn't even be taught in schools except for in the criminal justice department. It's main purpose is to fabricate new conditions so the drug companies can sell placebos to hypochondriacs and stupid, gullible people.

Not only that, it produces a herd of egocentric tools who put themselves above you because they match something they see in your behavior to some condition they learned about in school or from some Wikipedia article they read. They will constantly judge you and treat you like you are inherently less than them while using pseudo-science as a justification.

That being said, there are without a doubt noticeable patterns in the behavior of all living things (and non-living I guess), and I definitely think these should continue to be researched and documented. Modern psychology has just gotten way out of hand.

But then, what do I know? I'm merely a man.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Scientology for the win maaaaaaaan.

 

[Teran]

Bullying can seem pretty funny if the bullies aren't overly concerned about the feelings of the victim. Also, bullying can be a group bonding exercise.

 

[Alien Vision]

You know. I full heartedly agree with what you said. I noticed that when I've spoken to some amazing philosophers I came across, they were, *******S. Egocentric fools who had knowledge but couldn't manifest it in anyway possible, except to make themselves seem better than me. I was at the level they were without the big words, and those interesting adverbs people use alot. I am limited in what I can do, but I am not limited when it comes to manifesting the very idea. I have emotions, I care about people and never do I wish to be higher than anyone. I believe people who are ''higher'' are just people who can't get their head out of their *****. It's an egotistical game now, nobody seems to be doing it for the good of mankind while I like to think that I am. I want to improve the well being, and understand more about the people, and this world we live in. It's my passion.

Is this why you completely jumped down my throat last time (or as I thought)? You thought I was one of those ''philosophers''? Who are grey, made out of stone, and don't know how to do anything for others but themselves. They've convinced themselves that being boring and dull is the way of life when I personally think they are hypocrites that are hiding from their own emotions, because they are too much of a coward to handle their emotions regardless of the interesting things they have to say. I disagree that it's pseudo-science though. I believe that dreams are deeper than just images presented by the brain reflecting off things, and that humans have patterns. The things these philosophers say are indeed intriguing and spark alot of things that are true to this day. It's poetry in a very grey sense.

Man is the most complex life form to date, so what if you are just a man. We all have a brain, and this brain of ours is trolling us everyday. It makes us think it's just an organ that can only do so much, but underneath it all.. It truly speaks it's own language.

 

[Falconv1.0]

You know. I full heartedly agree with what you said. I noticed that when I've spoken to some amazing philosophers I came across, they were, *******S. Egocentric fools who had knowledge but couldn't manifest it in anyway possible, except to make themselves seem better than me.

Then they weren't amazing philosophers.

Herp derp.

 

[Alien Vision]

No. They were AWFUL human beings.

They were AMAZING phlosophers.

Huge difference my friend.

 

[Falconv1.0]

No what you just described was a guy who spouts bull****.

 

[Teran]

All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

When you're banging the maid in the bushes and contracting syphilis, it's alright because without syphilis there would be no chocolate, and everyone loves chocolate.

The great Pangloss everyone, now that's how you philosophise.

 

[Falconv1.0]

All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

When you're banging the maid in the bushes and contracting syphilis, it's alright because without syphilis there would be no chocolate, and everyone loves chocolate.

The great Pangloss everyone, now that's how you philosophise.

You better stop being an egocentric **** who holds himself above others, maaaaan.

 

[Teran]

Apparently that's exactly what I am.

 

[Alien Vision]

What are you talking about? Their actions is what makes them a fool. The philosophy that they spoke was intriguing.

How does the things they speak which were ''intriguing'' make them a fool, when their actions are what made them an *******.

What we are, and what we do are two seperate things.

 

[Falconv1.0]

What we are, and what we do are two seperate things.

Yeah see I'm a great guy and I love women I just can't stop BEATING THE **** OUT OF THEM FOR NO REASON.

See how quickly that logical fallacy fails?

 

[Teran]

Srs ****in philosophy here.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Srs ****in philosophy here.

Yeah too bad I do really dumb **** that doesn't match what I say right? That's why I say so much mean **** but I frequently make love to women sweetly because I act so-oh **** this.

 

[Alien Vision]

Sorry. I meant that just because they were egocentric robots who had no relative conscious for those around them in a sense, and knew how to speak philosophy at an intriguing level, doesn't validate what you said the first time. It still makes no sense, really.

We all have a dark side. Sometimes there are people who have a light side.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Sorry. I meant that just because they were egocentric robots who had no relative conscious for those around them in a sense, and knew how to speak philosophy at an intriguing level, doesn't validate what you said the first time. It still makes no sense, really.

There's a difference between a true thinker and a guy who spouts **** he's been fed. A true thinker can actually, you know, do some **** to show he has some awareness of those goddamn thoughts while the rest of the idiots spout **** and cave in on it then instant it's not convenient. Stop assuming you've met amazing philosophers, actually just stop assuming anything you find amazing is in fact amazing unless someone who actually is a person that people like such as Teran or Solid, or maybe Teran's ****, agrees with you.

 

[Alien Vision]

I respect Teran, but unlike you.. I don't ride his ****. So no, I will continue expressing what I think about my experiences, and you can continue acting the way you usually do.

Also your entire response was a fallacy. You never met the philosophers that I did. So.. *crumbles* There goes your post.

(I'm not starting anything Teran. It does sound a bit intrusive doesn't it? I'm in a good mood, so don't misread this. D

 

[Teran]

Why does every blog devolve into conversations about my penis? What has it done to deserve such attention?

 

[Falconv1.0]

I respect Teran, but unlike you.. I don't ride his ****.

It's funny how people say I ride his ****, yet he respects me and ****s all over them. How does that work.

And then he edits it to make sure Teran doesn't get offended. Oh yeah, I'm **** riding.

 

[Teran]

STOP TALKING ABOUT MY SCHLONG JESUS ****.

Like seriously if you guys love it so much, I am happy to visit most of you and give you first hand experience of it, but if that's not what you want, they why do you keep mentioning it?

And no, no pictures.

 

[Falconv1.0]

**** you I say what I want.

Ok sometimes I don't, but usually I do. >:[