Scott Pilgrim vs. The Mafia | GAME OVER: Infinite Sadness/Finest Hour

[#HBC | Kary]

That's not the only reason why I think you're scum. You're not really scum hunting. I think you voted Bardull because it's a safe place to keep your vote. You can keep it there because you know he's not going to be lynched. The questions you ask him about your apparent concerns are very bland and not concerning. Your nitpicking things that don't matter. He's the only person you're "pushing" . I use the quotations because you're not even really pushing him as a real scum read. The only reason you guys are even interacting is because of his analysis on you. You're not putting much out elsewhere. Sure you asked those general out of no where brownie questions a couple pages back, but yeah don't really know the point of those other than to look like you're doing something. FML keeps saying that I'm undermining your intelligence when it's he that is undermining yours. You know how to look like you're playing your town game, easy goin, and off in your own world. But I can always see that you are actually investigating in your own way. Here it just looks like you're trying to come off that way but there's nothing behind it at all. You're not LOOKING into anything. You're just posting to post. There is no sense of ignorance at all from your posts.

what's to scumhunt? it's the start of the game and basically nothign has happened. I have reads on people that aren't worth mentioning because they posted like twice.

the reason i'm interacting with bardull is because I voted him, I'm questioning him. do you honestly think he would have been able to pull a whole paragraph of waffle about my play if I hadn't done that?

yeah your argument is ass

 

[#HBC | J]

what's to scumhunt? it's the start of the game and basically nothign has happened.

This isn't a true statement.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

what's your read on Vinyl?

 

[#HBC | J]

Null due to not posting anything significant. He has just posted saying that he'll post. Giving a read on him would kind of be like trying to give a substanial read on FrozenFlame.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I don't actually need an answer to that. My point is that the game hasn't settled. I pushed a few things here and there but there isn't enough meat to get your teeth into. I mean FML probably is scum, but you don't need me to explain why, and I don't want to end the Day yet.

 

[#HBC | J]

I very much agree with your post and can completely empathize due to it being my exact reason (not having anything to really bite into) and also agreeing with the FML thing of him being scum but so many people have said why at this point there is nothing really new to point out nor to say on the matter. Repeating anything would be beating an almost literal dead-horse. So it's kind of boring until something else happens and I can't really complain because I am not personally making anything happen but at the moment I just want to feel things out.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

so why did you disagree with me saying there was nothing to scumhunt, that nothing had happened?

 

[#HBC | J]

That isn't true haha. I mean sure you could dissasemble the FML wagon. Saying that nothing happened is contrary to the FML wagon and hate going on. Plus the debate between you and Zen is something plus the PBJ/FML debate garnered something. Nothing has happened with about half the people in this game but the other half had had things going on to look at.

 

[BarDulL]

Can't tell if Kary's dumb or scum.

I get the impression he wants to push me as a result of being buttsalty, or that he feels there's no going back on my slot and to turn his head away at this point would put him at some kind of disadvantage.

Still on phone so don't know where votes are at, but it would either be on Kary or...someone, idk. Maybe FML but I have to look over the case first.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Oh BarDulL. Stick to a game more your speed while the grownups play mafia

 

[FullMetalLynch]

J being non-committal towards me is null, he's always had a penchant for finding my(Rake's ) posting style dicey.

I don't know yet why he's avoiding sinking his teeth into my wagon though, there's more than enough that he could say about it that'd be a fresh perspective. I almost want to say J is purposely avoiding me for the sake of it, but I don't think he is doing so. Me and marshy's interaction is a perfect example of something that could be talked about but isn't.

J, why are you so hesitant if you feel I'm the way to go ? There's a line between feeling things out and just not knowing. And tbh I don't think your as invested in your interest in my slot as your trying to show being. It's weird because I don't think I can dislike your slot over it. Like, on the list of things you could be doing, voting me from your perspective only seems logical and yet your unwillingness to commit suggests a weakness that your posting style doesn't match.

Am I wrong about BW ? TBH I've thought about his AtE post and I don't like it, it reminds me of how I submarined HipsterSister as BW's scum mate in my second newbie game. Plus his entire apology to me makes no sense, he's essentially submitting to his lynch the same as in Ryu's Toonami mafia but this time he's doing it the smart way and throwing my wagoners a bone. Tell me why I should believe I'm wrong.

Vote : Gova.

This is still the best lynch today. My vinyl vote isn't doing much, so let's do this.

Alright so what about his #226 specifically gave you a town read at that exact moment?

you mean

bleh

i should have time for this soon

kinda forgot bardull was v/la because that ruins his reaction to my vote.

i have a few scumreads im working on but its all a bit hectic


prolly be back tomorrow to mod meta the setup

pace

He's already admitting his vote's uselessness in the context of the thread, from a scumKary pov this put's you in a weak position. He's opening himself to be called out on it. Why does he need to do that as scum ? I'm trying to see your pov that I'm underselling kary's intelligence an all, but it's hard to put 2+2 together when kary's blatant attitude towards his own position in terms of thread appearance and thread attention (and where it would put him) doesn't add up with what I think he would be doing as scum, or what I think scum needs to do at this point in the game.

Call it WIFOM if you please but it's how I feel.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

EBWOP:

Vote : Gova

 

[Xivii]

my wagoners

 

[Xivii]

What in the world @ Kary's Bardull vote. Kary is scum. That long smylw is consistent with marshy scum meta.


Looking at Kary > smylw > PJB.

bleh

i should have time for this soon

kinda forgot bardull was v/la because that ruins his reaction to my vote.

i have a few scumreads im working on but its all a bit hectic


prolly be back tomorrow to mod meta the setup

pace

This is why he made that post @ FML

 

[Gova]

 

[#HBC | J]

Gova is like the perfect addition to this cast. Love it.

 

[ranmaru]

wow FML actually is scum

Why didn't you vote FML here? Bardull's VLA so your vote being on Bardull doesn't do anything.

no.

kary's better at mafia then to play as he is an expect people to pass it off.

as in, he'd know with the people involved in this game whatd go down.

plus kary is always weird d1

WUT

Underlined, what does that matter?

well i'm lazy and cba to explain. but there's this:

I would vote ya but Bardull needs the attention

Why do you tell FML this? How exactly does you telling him that do any good?

Also tell me. Why were you using a different persona in the early game and now you are all calm?

 

[ranmaru]

Vinyl, why did you decide to vote frozen?

FML, earlier you told me you weren't going to move your vote, then 2 seconds later you did just that. Explain.

Ranmaru, what do you think of J?

KevinM, what do you think of Zen?

that will be all

Null. He needs to do more for me to read him. The only thing I SEE from him is saying he's debating about going on the FML wagon, and is talking with zen about you. Nothing readable from him yet.

Will be able to post after work. for now would rather Zen not try and discredit wagons with lines like "When does KevinM vote on actual evidence".

Just because you can't see or refuse to see scummy behavior doesn't mean that I don't vote on evidence.

Yo help me and zen body Kary he's scum

FML is weird this game.

Kary is kinda lame. I have to look over his posts one more time but I feel like there's a contradiction somewhere in hindsight if I'm remembering things correctly. Like, I think he was postulating that I should 100% die (implication of him thinking I'm scum?), then he votes for me after I claim when it's plausible that his vote could cause a domino effect, then tries to play it off like he was trying to gain a reaction from (but if he was trying to gain a reaction then this is an implication that he doesn't think I'm scum anymore or at least null, but considering his early stance on my slot, it's a weird transition unless he was trying to backpedal out of a situation that could get him knee deep in hot water [him thinking my claim makes me Townish]). I'm not sure where he's coming from by saying I need to be pressured (fun fact, saying someone needs to be pressured out loud doesn't do much to pressure them) after I've presumably moved back to null so to speak when there are 13 other players in this game for him to deal with while I'm still V/LA.

THIS is what I feel from him as well. His intention is malicious. More like he wants you to react badly so others can jump on you. His vote on you is useless while you are vla and is also saying he has a scumread on FML but isn't voting him and keeps his vote on you.

 

[ranmaru]

yo, it's simple.

i'm saying it is strange of you to be claiming because you're worried about getting bodied during your V/LA.

only for you to be here during your V/LA, with time to check the thread and potentially claim if necessary


which makes me wonder why you were worried.

so why were you worried?

Because he's hated? It seems like you are trying to twist him being here during his VLA as a reason to invalidate him claiming early due to the fear of dying early because of his role. You aren't really considering that he had some free time (no class as he said) and you don't really care to reconsider if he may be town here. You are just trying to make him look bad.

I really don't understand why Ran and I are the only one's able to read Kary accurately :// Odd that Kary is scum in both Circus games he's been in. I'm not going to do a gambit like day cop here for the sake of getting us to win this time though.

It's because we saw him play and flip scum in our newbie with him (breaking bad). We'll have to quote some posts from both games so people understand what we see.

Has anyone noticed that Kary is posting a lot of fluff posts that don't matter at all? Why was Kary defending Badwolf from the moment he and PJBgo into it? All PJB said was idiot and Kary felt the need to bring attention to it for no reason at all man.

Why is Kary getting on Bardull for making a post while he was on V/LA. Note to Kary, the LA stands for LIMITED ACCESS.

I feel Kary is trying to fake actually 'caring' about politeness when for realzies he doesn't care. Look at this quote:

if I see any more needlessly personal bull**** then i'll replace

because **** all of you

See the underlined? There's NO reason for him to say this. Him saying this helps relieve the pressure on BADWOLF by calling EVERYONE assholes. He's spreading out the insults to EVERYONE so badwolf feels special. I don't know why exactly Kary is doing this.

I also noticed that Kary voted Bardull ONLY after I called him out for not doing a thing with his FML vote. This shows he isn't trying to do ANYTHING at all, only did so on reaction. What do you think of the interaction between FML and Kary early game? (And I want you to tell me about his attitude he had early game and why you think it changed)

I don't actually need an answer to that. My point is that the game hasn't settled. I pushed a few things here and there but there isn't enough meat to get your teeth into. I mean FML probably is scum, but you don't need me to explain why, and I don't want to end the Day yet.

Kary you say the game hasn't settled but you actually haven't been doing much to progress the game. You just vote FML for RVS voting you, you vote bardull because I called you out for doing nothing but omgus vote FML, you sit on Bardull while he is vla, and say you WOULD vote FML but just stay on Bardull.

 

[ranmaru]

EBWOP:

Vote : Gova

Why are you voting Gova now, instead of giving him a chance for you to read him?

 

[ranmaru]

What the

my vote was on Kary

Unvote Vote: Kary

Now Kary is at ONE vote assuming the last vote count is correct

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Ok, now I'm getting the Kary hate a little more. You have my attention.

 

[ranmaru]

You do? And why is that? Is it enough to get you on Kary, or you still on FML for some reason?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Cuz before now, all anybody was saying was "yo, Kary is scum tho". It just looked like people being dumb. I still think FML is pretty hella grimey. I'd rather stay put, but maybe we can do Kary tomorrow? I'll give it some consideration.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

What's the argument for FML town? There are people saying that, right? Why?

 

[ranmaru]

The argument I think is meta. Rake has done this before with me in our newbie together as ICIES. He left a vote on Badwolf (LOL here he does it again I just realize) EVEN after badwolf as posted and I'm like DUDE why are you leaving a vote on badwolf all this freaking time and he's like "Cuz I'm pressuring him" and i'm like... >_> It's been so many pages and you are just sitting on him. He openly stated it was to pressure so it defeated the purpose but he still stubbornly kept the vote on Badwolf. He was town there.

This makes him 'actively' pressuring badwolf null however, just not suspicious.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

What about his flailing? And the distancing? Look over my interactions with him, he's all outta whack. Do you disagree with me, or do you just not know what I'm talking about? Cuz I can show you.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

In fact, ya know what, **** it. I'ma make a FML case. I don't want to but it needs to be done.

 

[Xivii]

Vote: Kary

 

[#HBC | J]

In fact, ya know what, **** it. I'ma make a FML case. I don't want to but it needs to be done.

Actually it would be as needed as another Taylor Swift break-up song.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Prod dodge.

Too tired to post.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Actually it would be as needed as another Taylor Swift break-up song.

I honestly believe it may have gone over people's heads because they were so preoccupied with their Kary reads.

 

[#HBC | J]

I honestly believe it may have gone over people's heads because they were so preoccupied with their Kary reads.

No, no it hasn't. Only to Zen/Ranmaru at this time have stated they would rather have Kary>FML. You've only been talking to Ranmaru/Zen lately so it would make it seem like that is what has happened at this time.

I mean, you could make another FML case, but it'd just be a tad overkill at the current time.

 

[KevinM]

Hey Gova is in this game?

Cool I haven't played with him in a while.

Anyways

Unvote

Vote FML

Not moving this vote btw.

PG 9-10 are some of the scummiest posts I've seen this entire game.

J can live based off of his responses towards Soupa earlier.

Kary still have as town.

RR and Gova both are going to vote with me so that's three votes.

 

[Xivii]

I honestly believe it may have gone over people's heads because they were so preoccupied with their Kary reads.

No, I get it completely. It's not a lynch I'd fight. I don't want Kary to slip by though. FML easily has enough attention to be lynched. Kary not so much.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

That's cool, but we gotta pick one or the other here. Personally, I'm more confident in the FML wagon, but I'm warming up to the Kary wagon. Obviously we gotta pick one or the other, and I don't want the day to devolve into competing wagons.

 

[Circus]

“From the outside, everyone must be wondering why we try. Why do we try?”

Vote Count
FullMetalLynch [4]: soupamarioyoshiluigiwario, Potassium, PrivateJoker-Brown, KevinM
J [2]: Gova, Red Ryu
Kary [2]: Ranmaru, Zen
Gova [1]: FullMetalLynch
BarDulL [1]: Kary
soupamarioyoshiluigiwario [1]: BarDulL
frozenflame751 [1]: Vinyl.
Vinyl. [0]:
KevinM [0]:
Red Ryu [0]:
Potassium [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Zen [0]:
Nabe [0]:
PrivateJoker-Brown [0]:

Not Voting: frozenflame751, J, Nabe

With 15 players alive, 8 votes are required for lynch.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

good GORF do you guys post a lot

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

badwolf is a baby

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote FML

night night.