Scar's Knee Challenge: Scarjumping Revealed

[Scar]

The Technique

So everyone, I have been hiding something from you. My very own advanced tech. I believe Cort had done it before me with CF, I don't know if anyone else has, but I have never seen anyone apply the tech as I have nor have I ever seen Cort actually do it, so, Scarjumping it is. I actually call it Immediate Walljumping (IWJ), not to be confused with Doraki's FD Instant Walljumps, but whatever.

The Scarjumping is only useful on YS. It unfortunately CANNOT be done on Dreamland64, if it can be done with an AR I'd be surprised. I have tried, I have failed. Green Greens allows for walljumps to be done immediately by simply pressing back on the d-pad. Clearly that doesn't work on YS.

SJ is performed by letting go of the ledge, then DIing in towards the stage, then walljumping, saving your DJ. But pressing down will make you fastfall, and away is too difficult to reach the side of the stage without wasting your DJ: there is a trick.

At the ledge if you press c-stick back you let go of the ledge with no backwards DI. So let go of the ledge with cstick away, then as quickly as possible push the DPad towards the stage. Once your character is hugging YS, walljump away. It feels like a dashdance after pressing back on the c-stick.

The first time you try it, I suggest holding DI into the stage all the way to the bottom, then walljumping. That way even if you'll still walljump and have your DJ. Keep doing it faster and faster until you almost really can immediate walljump.

THE CHALLENGE.

Silentwolf, Cactuar, Cort, other technical players: this means you. I wondered how many knees could be done in between a start and an end, both marked by grabbing the ledge of Yoshi's story.

My maximum is 8. My technique is simple, first I SJ to preserve my DJ. I knee 5 times while DIing back towards the stage so that I might walljump again after each. After the fifth, I use my DJ to regain height. This allows me to knee twice more.

I would love to see a video response to this with someone performing 8 knees. I doubt anyone will ever get 9. Good luck gentlemen.

 

[JonaDiaper]

are you kidding me i had 8 could have survived, but got to exited, and now your gonna make me do 9. scar.........

 

[Scar]

lol 9 is where it's at. Also, check this out. Another Scarjump application LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-IJw2JxRp8

 

[JonaDiaper]

oh man that was sexy, i dont get it tho, you go so low on the stage, i feel like the stage is lower when i do it. when i do the first 5 they all have to be high. i actually did 6 on one jump once.

 

[Lovage 805]

such a fun technique, thanks for finally sharing.

 

[Shai Hulud]

You can do this with Fox too, but I've never really found any use for it.

 

[Atacusbebop123]

Dude I remember when you showed me this at smashtastrophe 2
Then you showed me you could four stock a Marth in 30 seconds
I haven't played Melee since (jk)

 

[HiIH]

....Wall jump to back air back onto the stage maybe?

Also, sounds like it could be extremely useful against edgeguarding, to delay your recovery from the edge enough for something like a Marth to whiff, and make it back.

 

[Scar]

Yeah I do that all the time, also the technique was invented to do immediate walljump, dj back, bair. It hits REALLY far, basically in the middle of the stage, but it's pretty slow.

Now I'll walljump DJ back and waveland on the platform above me. I don't really know why, but I don't get punished much for doing it.

 

[Shai Hulud]

You can waveland from the platforms off the stage, fast fall past the edge and wall jump. I'm trying to figure out some stupidly flashy crap with Fox using this stuff, but it's stupidly hard. =(

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

You can do it with Sheik as well, probably all wall jumpers can do it.

My record with Sheik is 4 right now.

 

[Kyu Puff]

You can do it with Sheik as well, probably all wall jumpers can do it.

My record with Sheik is 4 right now.

Fox (and maybe Falco) dies after 1.

 

[Big_R]

ohh when i was doing 3 with falco i didn't read this thread. i only saw it and didn't pay much attention. there's a saving your dj part involved...

 

[Eggz]

scarjumping is **** wit mario

 

[Ja]

Maybe this is a dumb question, but how do you DI back to the stage after you wall jump? I WJ, then hold towards the stage but I don't DI towards it. I've tried double tapping towards and some other stuff and I can't do it. I also die whenever I WJ as samus because of this.

 

[Ted PJs]

mario scar jump is bonafied

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

@Ryzol:

You have to wait until you stop the momentum from your walljump. That's why you can only scarjump by using an attack right as you WJ; the aerial interupts the Walljump and lets you drift back to the stage. Most efficient method of scarjumping for me is:

C-stick away........................................// Drop off; do the next step as fast as possible
Drift towards the stage.............................// Until you touch the stage. Then you
Push away from the stage....................... // walljump; the next step needs to be done immediately
C-Stick an aerial + at the same time hold back towards the stage
Repeat

 

[soap]

one big problem i have with the cstick to let go is i always seem to pull out a bair and die, i can do it with the control stick but obviously i have to walljump slightly lower

right now i can only get 4 with sheik as well, im sure more are possible, (prolly due to lower jump height) but it just doesnt seem very practical to get any more anyways. but something cool i do is immediate walljump needle turn around, double jump into a bair, tons of range lol.

and today i comboed immediate walljump uair dj fair on recovering fox. so many cool possibilities with this ish

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Yeah, I had that problem at first too. I think it happens when you continue moving the C stick after you've already dropped from the ledge. You can get around this by either just moving the stick a tiny distance or smashing it away.

Good ideas btw, I'll try those.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

I got 5 with sheik's fair.

3 the first time, jump, then two more.