TheManaLord
Smash Hero
afro youre going to rom? we will finally play again lol
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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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Afro_Chris
Smash Ace
yea lol dont let me 3 stock u again like last time
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Bamesy
Smash Ace
When Ganon does something that's not a FAKE opening, then just use your speed?
Kage Warrior where you at? What pisses you off/is difficult when fighting Falcons? (specific things)
Kage Warrior where you at? What pisses you off/is difficult when fighting Falcons? (specific things)
Afro_Chris
Smash Ace
lol just take ganon to FD, lol i 2 stocked kage there LOL kage were u at son? oh right hiding in quebec no johns come to toronto more u softy
Well yeah that's a no-brainer. I was more thinking of the least punishable approaches Falcon has available.
Chris: I've noticed that I'm actually bad vs ganon on fd lolol
Ganon works on baits. Tipman once said ''*****s just run into the fist.''
camp ganon, its simple. just wait for him to **** up or make an unsafe approach, run in and grab. Uthrow nairs, uairs into regrabs are almost gaurenteed on him. he really does get ***** by falcon if you know the matchup.
be wary of getting hit though. good ganons just need 1 hit to put falcon into a REALLY bad spot. once falcon is off the stage, hes dead. hes tooooo easy to edgegaurd. tipman uair spikes make it impossible to recover low as well as fairs cover anything above.
Basically, just dont get hit and combo ganon everytime he makes a mistake. Inexperienced falcons in the matchup will have a lot of trouble because ganon has so many tricks to get in and destroy you when you feel safe. 3 fairs can kill falcon off yoshis if you get hit in mid air and try to recover high. Play smart and camp him and you shouldn't have THAT much trouble.
hope this helped, i can expand more indepthly on a couple other points if you
camp ganon, its simple. just wait for him to **** up or make an unsafe approach, run in and grab. Uthrow nairs, uairs into regrabs are almost gaurenteed on him. he really does get ***** by falcon if you know the matchup.
be wary of getting hit though. good ganons just need 1 hit to put falcon into a REALLY bad spot. once falcon is off the stage, hes dead. hes tooooo easy to edgegaurd. tipman uair spikes make it impossible to recover low as well as fairs cover anything above.
Basically, just dont get hit and combo ganon everytime he makes a mistake. Inexperienced falcons in the matchup will have a lot of trouble because ganon has so many tricks to get in and destroy you when you feel safe. 3 fairs can kill falcon off yoshis if you get hit in mid air and try to recover high. Play smart and camp him and you shouldn't have THAT much trouble.
hope this helped, i can expand more indepthly on a couple other points if you
Bamesy
Smash Ace
Don't get hit.
Grab him.
Work with that and the rest will be obvious.
That's what I got from your advice. Sooo true. That goes for every character vs Ganon with slight alterations...
Ganon is so lame.
Grab him.
Work with that and the rest will be obvious.
That's what I got from your advice. Sooo true. That goes for every character vs Ganon with slight alterations...
Ganon is so lame.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Probably only getting out of a grab situation. Pretty much it. =P One grab from Falcon hurts a lot, it's tough to get out of the situation.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
I have a problem with my comboing: I cant react to the di from a downthrow, so i usually just end up guessing/predicting how they will di. but obviously reacting is way better.
does anyone have any advice to practice/learn how to react to the di?
does anyone have any advice to practice/learn how to react to the di?
-WoMp-
Smash Cadet
Watch your opponent. As soon as they leave the choke-slam, they will go in a direction and that will be the trajectory they travel for the duration of the hit-stun.
Scar
#HarveyDent
stfu rocky
HomeMadeWaffles
Smash Lord
hey scar got 2nd this weekend
he beat zelgadis, lucien, shroomed, and falcomist and lost to jeff
we were cheering for scar over jeff this weekend
the people's champ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im teaming with ya boy scar to, the philadelphia flyer & the golden state warrior!!!!
we got this!!!!
he beat zelgadis, lucien, shroomed, and falcomist and lost to jeff
we were cheering for scar over jeff this weekend
the people's champ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im teaming with ya boy scar to, the philadelphia flyer & the golden state warrior!!!!
we got this!!!!
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
gtfo both of you
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
I ain't GsE =(
Da Shuffla
Smash Lord
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What do you mean?
Teching after GETTING up B'd, or teching before you up B, or something else?
prove me wrong ***** =)
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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You're probably hitting L / R too early, because it's the easiest move to tech ever ~_~Bofore getting hit i am training the timing but don't know when to press L or R
Da Shuffla
Smash Lord
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If that's the case, then I hear that you have to press L/R BEFORE you get hit. Which still doesn't make sense to me.
mers
Smash Ace
You can't input a tech when in hitstun, and the collision with the wall happens while in hitstun (due to smash DI). So you have to input tech within 20 frames before you contact the wall, but also before you get hit. This can make the timing for teching moves with lots of hitstun tricky.
If I'm wrong, somebody correct me.
pockyD
Smash Legend
why not?
a 'tech' (the result, not the input) is something that needs to immediately as you hit the ground; if you input it 'as' you hit the ground, it's already too late because the game has already commited you to the non-tech position
edgeteching is going to be the same way; you need to input the tech before you encounter the wall in the tumbling position. I don't think you ALWAYS need to input it before you get hit, since some things have enough hitlag or weird directionality that keeps you in contact with the wall, but you certainly need to input it before you lose that contact
g-regulate
Smash Hero
i sucked a fat nutsack at apex. lost to lucky, zhu, PC, and D1(who randomly beat PC and forced a play-in match between me and PC).
g-regulate
Smash Hero
kind of a tough draw of spacies, now that i think about it
Da Shuffla
Smash Lord
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I knew that you had to hit the button(L , for argument's sake) before you hit the wall in order to get the tech. I just thought that you had to press it AFTER you got hit, but BEFORE, you hit the wall. Say if I'm up B'ing, and there is a Falco waiting for me at the ledge with a Dair. Pressing L while I'm in mid air would essentially do nothing b/c I have already used my recovery move; only after I get hit with the Dair am I "reset" to a state where I can be able to tech. That's the point where I would need to press L, so I can tech off of the wall.
^^ I'm not trying to argue my point here, b/c you are obviously right. I was just explaining the logic that lead me to believe that you had to press L in that VERY small window.
Scar
#HarveyDent
i ***** last weekend!
g-reg you're a pioneer
g-reg you're a pioneer
Black_jo
Smash Journeyman
Where the **** is the old school Ask G-reg's thread with the percentages for a Utrow/Dtrow knee with like every character lol. That was very informative.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
what kind off stupid *** pool is that =(
-WoMp-
Smash Cadet
Click arrow for thread.
Da Shuffla
Smash Lord
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I wish they put THAT pool on the livestream.
They put a pool which originally had both M2K and Shiz(which is why they put it on the stream in the first place), but then swapped M2K out for Kage.
Black_jo
Smash Journeyman
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
link to jona getting rocked?
wait, frequent flyer joe still plays this game? and he placed 2nd? and beat good people? what?
wait, frequent flyer joe still plays this game? and he placed 2nd? and beat good people? what?
Scar
#HarveyDent
updated thread title
discuss
discuss
Atlus8
Smash Master
If Adam goes Sheik and has done his homework, watch out!
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Better be recorded. :nerd:
Scar
#HarveyDent
if it ain't m2k it's done