San Diego Lovin' - Triweekly XXXII - December 1st

[Jun.]

this is dumb.

I challenge tom

then you dawson

then Kevin

then Andrew Baker

Call or text me for scheduling

see what I'm talking about. Let me finish this HW and I'll present a ranking system that makes a **** ton of more sense than this.

 

[soccerdrew17]

FTFY

10char

ill exchange you for brawl tier if youre that desperate

 

[tacoz42]

"LIKE"

I'm butthurt, Bakerdrew.

This isn't facebook -_-
If this list is true then I challenge Baker on Friday lol.

 

[soccerdrew17]

@jun
one challenge per smashfest.

@sunny
sucks for you. you should have done at least as good as your own tier.

@kevin
youre on. i wont be there till after 6 on friday.

i challenge radical.

 

[Jun.]

@jun
one challenge per smashfest.

Rofl so you're telling me due to dumb luck of the computer, it'll theoretically take Sunny for example until the end of this quarter to get to the top even if he wins every match? And on top of that who the **** is gonna challenge people that are clearly better them them? And what happens if you were challenged but then you play your own challenge match to move up and win before playing the one from under you?

Say if Sunny challenged me. I'll be like **** that Tom lets play. Hopefully beat Tom and move the hell up before I play Sunny. Ok so lets make EVERYONE play from the ground up. That will create a train of waiting ALL the way to the bottom before higher matches can be played. And if one person breaks a rule, chaos happens.

Less skilled/experienced players are just gonna get *****d and end up being nothing but stepping stones. Like why the hell would I challenge anyone other than Tom (no offense Tom) to move up? And what happens if Tom doesn't wanna play or doesn't show up? I have to wait another week because everyone else already played their "1 per smashfest"?

And to top it all off you named each list to something stupid instead of giving it legitimate letter grades or something

Read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

It gives a **** ton more incentive for higher players to play other higher players, while at the same time rewarding lower ranked players more if they happen to beat higher ranked players. Why are we making up BS systems where Andrew makes up a rule as he goes instead of sticking with a system that's been internationally used in everything ranging from Chess to Dota?


Ultimately

our community isn't fit to be ranked. Nor is there any reason for us to be.

 

[HomeRunTom]

Jun's right I probably won't show up on friday LOL

anyways, I have hijacked this thread and it is now about break the targets suicide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIZtD_bIHas

 

[tacoz42]

Rofl so you're telling me due to dumb luck of the computer, it'll theoretically take Sunny for example until the end of this quarter to get to the top even if he wins every match? And on top of that who the **** is gonna challenge people that are clearly better them them? And what happens if you were challenged but then you play your own challenge match to move up and win before playing the one from under you?

Say if Sunny challenged me. I'll be like **** that Tom lets play. Hopefully beat Tom and move the hell up before I play Sunny. Ok so lets make EVERYONE play from the ground up. That will create a train of waiting ALL the way to the bottom before higher matches can be played. And if one person breaks a rule, chaos happens.

Less skilled/experienced players are just gonna get *****d and end up being nothing but stepping stones. Like why the hell would I challenge anyone other than Tom (no offense Tom) to move up? And what happens if Tom doesn't wanna play or doesn't show up? I have to wait another week because everyone else already played their "1 per smashfest"?

And to top it all off you named each list to something stupid instead of giving it legitimate letter grades or something

Read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

It gives a **** ton more incentive for higher players to play other higher players, while at the same time rewarding lower ranked players more if they happen to beat higher ranked players. Why are we making up BS systems where Andrew makes up a rule as he goes instead of sticking with a system that's been internationally used in everything ranging from Chess to Dota?

tl;dr for now. It's true, instead of the beginning being decided through a RNG, Huge Round Robin on Friday?

Edit: Or screw the ranking system and let's do what we've been doing: play friendlies/srslies

 

[soccerdrew17]

calm down. stop taking this so seriously.

1) if you dont accept challenges then you cant challenge other people. there is also a reason you have to call it beforehand.

2) you get to challenge his replacement. i understand this is not perfect, but too bad. this system isnt meant to be perfect.

3) less skilled players get ****ed up in tournaments. whats your point? im sure im going to used as a stepping stone as im in the second highest tier atm.

4)two smashfests per week. challenge people who consistently go if you want to move up. (people who dont show up much will get dropped and a random person from the lower tier will take their place (aka joe)

5)one challenge per week. you can be challenged as many times as people want to challenge you.

one note is that if you challenge someone and lose to someone who challenged you, you do get to call a challenge day of, provided you already called a challenge.


of course i gave them stupid names, this is supposed to be fun. you can name them what ever you want. i also dont care about that ****. what im trying to promote are serious games with meaning.

 

[SNG]

Youre too smart, Jun.

 

[soccerdrew17]

tl;dr for now. It's true, instead of the beginning being decided through a RNG, Huge Round Robin on Friday?

Edit: Or screw the ranking system and let's do what we've been doing: play friendlies/srslies

ill be there for a few hours, not enough time to play everyone. which brings about the rankings by who is going to show up friday.

no one is making anyone do this. im just keeping track of it all and making sure the rules are consistent.

 

[Jun.]

GL Tom, even if you win against me, the world will be against you.

 

[tacoz42]

GL Tom, even if you win against me, the world will be against you.

TWEWY

Spoiler

10char

 

[soccerdrew17]

that was a pretty cool game actually. it had some pretty good twists actually.

 

[Jun.]

http://www.ecochess.com/elocalculator.htm


Everyone starts with 1500. You can play as many as you want all the time any place any time. Its dead fair on gaining more points if you beat people that are better and vice versa also.

 

[Lanstar]

I like Jun's idea ;3

 

[W.A.S.T.E.]

Most of us suck.

I don't think we can accurately rank each other based on how we do against each other.
Just look at tournament results and make judgments based on that.
If no one really has any legitimate tournament records (I'm not sure we do), then we don't matter and ranking is a moot act.

I always liked seeing us as a community that played to have fun and to help each other get better by simply being available for each other whenever we wanted to play. Then a triweekly or another tourney comes around and we try to apply our experience. That's how it's been for me up to this point and I think it's helped me out.

EDIT: Good times from January 2009 - June 2010, Miguel. Great friendlies/seriouslies in ERC and Marshall Apt. L-1 or L-4 or something like that. haha.

-Jesse

 

[Lanstar]

I think UCSD needs to start coming with me to tournaments. I offer rides whenever I go, but everyone always has excuses not to go lol.

 

[soccerdrew17]

http://www.ecochess.com/elocalculator.htm


Everyone starts with 1500. You can play as many as you want all the time any place any time. Its dead fair on gaining more points if you beat people that are better and vice versa also.

that works well if you have vested interest in wanting to beat someone. but i personally wouldnt play for a number especially if my number doesnt really have an impact on bragging immediately after the match, aka if i beat someone in that system i wont necessarily be ranked higher than them.

also, its too serious. the only thing i want to be serious is the actual game.

 

[tacoz42]

that works well if you have vested interest in wanting to beat someone. but i personally wouldnt play for a number especially if my number doesnt really have an impact on bragging immediately after the match, aka if i beat someone in that system i wont necessarily be ranked higher than them.

also, its too serious. the only thing i want to be serious is the actual game.

But taking a single match off someone ISN'T supposed to mean something. So what, I beat sandbagging Sunny once because he's a noob and I caught his illusion with a nair at 10% followed by an edgeguard. Until I can go even or beat him consistently or even more extreme: beat him in tournament, then I am in no position to brag or even consider I'm better than him.

 

[soccerdrew17]

But taking a single match off someone ISN'T supposed to mean something. So what, I beat Sunny once because he's a noob and I caught his illusion with a nair at 10% followed by an edgeguard. Until I can go even or beat him consistently or even more extreme: tournament setting, then I am in no position to brag or even consider I'm better than him.

hence why my rankings arent really that serious. just a system where we have reason to play serious games. which we all need if we want to get better

 

[tacoz42]

hence why my rankings arent really that serious. just a system where we have reason to play serious games. which we all need if we want to get better

We can do that without rankings. I'm pretty sure all of us are willing to play a serious set if asked (stage striking and all), unless it's like....1 am and we've been smashing since noon.

 

[Lanstar]

People are not likely to take something seriously if that something isn't serious at all.

If we are going to do something like this it needs to be a semi-accurate representation of relative skill. If it's not serious, people probably won't be interested in participating.

 

[soccerdrew17]

People are not likely to take something seriously if that something isn't serious at all.

If we are going to do something like this it needs to be a semi-accurate representation of relative skill. If it's not serious, people probably won't be interested in participating.

hows about we give it a shot. if it works it works, if not then it doesnt matter.

 

[soccerdrew17]

im tired of talking about this. can we be less serious?

 

[tacoz42]

im tired of talking about this. can we be less serious?

Midterms are teh suck

 

[HomeRunTom]

lets all just play stadium. At least competition there you do have a definite "division". D:

 

[outofdashdwz]

Lol I hate playing this game seriously. If other people wanna do the ranking thing, I guess I'll play to win/seriously too... But I'll be playing Samus/ICs/Pikachu/Fox/Marth/Mewtwo/Link etc. I kinda do wanna see how viable my randoms are in a srs setting with cps. lol. Mainly interested in developing Fox and ICs because I hate playing Sheik with the princesses. I almost feel like my Fox can do better against Sheik on stadium than my Peach on anywhere (same with ICs on FD/Dreamland).

 

[soccerdrew17]

tom, you kinda just win at that

 

[stopNstart]

eric we should marth ditto mm, ill show you the jun side of life

 

[denwo]

eric we should fox ditto gm, ill show you the true face of fear

 

[stopNstart]

my money is on anthony

 

[W.A.S.T.E.]

eric we should sheik ditto gm, ill...oh wait...

 

[outofdashdwz]

 

[shaseim4st3r]

lol so much tension. who gives a shlt about the ranking and tier lists and stuff. i honestly just wanna play to have fun.
and make fun of anthony(FOX) when i **** him.

enuff said.

jk anthony <3

 

[Jun.]

UCSD Melee Beta Season - $1 entry, Winner takes all (gonna be like a dinner when we go out to eat rofl)

http://www.ecochess.com/elocalculator.htm
Everyone starts at 1500 @ K-value 32.

I'm actually pretty serious about doing this. A lot of people from other regions also wanna see how it ends up. It's very simple. Play a match with someone who is participating then text me the result. 951-312-3585.

the mechanic is fair
1500 beats 1500 = +16/-16
1500 beats 1800 = +27/-27
1500 beats 1200 = +4/-4
Draw (draws give a small amount of points to the person with less points)

As you can see, a lower rated player can challenge a higher rated player without risking as many points for a loss but instead they have more to gain. In the beginning people will be around the same but as the gap widens it'll become more interesting.

The system also rewards people for being more active and coming out to smashfests which helps everyone out with matchups etc.

Current Standings

Eric - 1500
Jun - 1500
David - 1500
Joe - 1500
Ky - 1500
Tristan - 1500
Kevin - 1500
Jesse - 1500
Sunny - 1500

Please text me results if anyone in the list decides to play someone else in the list in a serious set. Points will be moved around in order of notification.

 

[KLuless1]

So.


All this talk about ranking whatnot and the generally hostile environment on this thread makes me want to play smash. Who's ready to play some super seriouslies/sets on campus tomorrow?

 

[denwo]

lol so much tension. who gives a shlt about the ranking and tier lists and stuff. i honestly just wanna play to have fun.
and make fun of anthony(FOX) when i **** him.

enuff said.

jk anthony <3

you *****, I'm gonna kick you in the ****

G-G-G-G-GOT 'EM!


get at the SYSTEM, yo

 

[Vouge]

When do you want to play? I'd be down to play early. I've got class at 4pm though. Also,

YUTA AND ERIC ARE COOL.

I said it and I stand by it.

Gators gonna gait, that means Jesse(he's cool too though).

<3

 

[Jun.]

tristan wanna be in on beta league

 

[Vouge]

Oh, for sure. I'm down, put me in.