Samus versus Mario match-up.

[Matt07]

Hello, Samus mains.

We are currently doing Samus for our weekly character discussion thread, and all information is helpful for both your's and our character match-up threads.

Here is the link;
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=174907

Happy posting .

 

[Tudor]

You may want to ask one of your Mario players named jwnd. He has developed some very good tactics against a good Samus (me). He never goes off the stage (cause i spike like mad), he spaces amazingly, does double b-airs against me all day, uses a sh fireball before any approach, and spaces his forward smash like a champ.

 

[Matador]

You may want to ask one of your Mario players named jwnd. He has developed some very good tactics against a good Samus (me). He never goes off the stage (cause i spike like mad), he spaces amazingly, does double b-airs against me all day, uses a sh fireball before any approach, and spaces his forward smash like a champ.

K, we'll look for him. He posts here right?

It'd still be cool if we had a Samus main to argue their side as well. Such as what she does for recovery and methods of approach and whatnot and we can tell you guys ours. Then we could prolly come to an agreement on the win ratio and post it on DanGR's chart.

 

[Tudor]

Win ratio between me and jwnd is probably 50:50. The tournament last Monday where we had to play each other first game we were both on our last life and spiked each other at the exactly same time, i just happened to meteor cancel sooner. His Mario is a really hard match up because he is an excellent player and knows how to play against me. Like I said he doesn't go off the edge at all and he hit's me with forward smashed and he knows how to use is cape very well. This means i can't approach with missiles, I usually can't zair because he always has a fireball coming at me, i can't spike him, i can't punish his for being close to the edge (he has great spacing).

So he knows exacly how to play against me and is a great player but the ratio is still 50:50 so I would probably say it is somewhere around 60:40 for Samus. But that's just my opinion.

 

[0RLY]

You know... Until I saw this thread, I never realized that no one I know uses Mario. Ever.

Well, at least in 2007 and early '08, I had a great Doc to play against...!

 

[Hive]

lol give them mario melee strategies and see if they catch on ^^

 

[Matt07]

Bump. Thanks for the information so far. Any, and all information is helpful for our discussion, so come post .

 

[A2ZOMG]

I'll just say, Samus is the kind of character that looks decent enough on paper, but I'm not sure how she really does vs Mario because she's not very common (although Mario is like...less common than her LOL).

Both pack annoying projectile spam (Mario has a Cape however), have a good Up-B out of shield, and are pretty nimble in the air (although Mario attacks a bit faster in the air). Samus lives longer and has a larger edgeguard zone, but is worse at directly scoring KOs.

And from what Tudor is saying about his experience, the matchup does look pretty close.

 

[Matt07]

Yea, I'd have to agree with everything you just stated. This match-up is definately, a 50:50 ratio.

Edit: I wonder if her z-air hits Mario if he's in the 'crouch' position?

 

[Tudor]

Yea, I'd have to agree with everything you just stated. This match-up is definately, a 50:50 ratio.

Edit: I wonder if her z-air hits Mario if he's in the 'crouch' position?

A good samus can zair metaknight in the crouch position... so yes ^^

 

[A2ZOMG]

Metaknight actually doesn't have a very low crouch IIRC. I mean I'm pretty sure he can be hit by Falco's laser when crouching.

 

[Crystanium]

A good samus can zair metaknight in the crouch position... so yes ^^

Or Pikachu, or Squirtle, or... Yeah, you get the idea. Another thing everyone who plays as Samus should know is that you can grab any opponent who crouches, even if it's a small character.