Samus Discussion

[asianaussie]

You're a joke of a person.

This is true and will never be rendered otherwise.

 

[Battlecow]

Yeah, I hit it in a teams where I didn't have time to run over to him to attempt a more traditional edgeguard, then something clicked in my brain and there it was. It was pretty epic too since the camera kind of followed it in it's epic journey traversing the underside of Dreamland.

If you had a vid, I'd marry it.

 

[ciaza]

No video - sorry! I'll keep a mental note to record every teams match from now on and try to hit it if I can.

 

[B Link]

SOOO anyways, getting back on stage when playing Kabal's samus takes forever...*plop**plop* at one point I got to 200% and then still got edgeguarded -_-

Are there any characters good at taking advantage of this method of edgeguarding?

 

[DJRome]

hey, so which characters can u reliably tech chase on platforms with upb on dream land?

 

[Skrlx]

hey, so which characters can u reliably tech chase on platforms with upb on dream land?

First of all, why the **** are you attempting to tech chase with samus' up b? That move is slow and will only work on n00bs who don't know how to DI.

if they're on top of a platform and you're under them, and you up b, they can DI down -> tech and then come down while you're in freefall and beat the *** out of you.

stay with the dair tech chasing

 

[DJRome]

well i meant more that you knock some chars too far off with up b so you can't dair chase them (or bair whatever).

i saw some discussion abotu the samus dk matchup earlier in the thread. what is the consensus on that?

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS_F_TjJ5q4&t=5m30s

Edgeguards, Samus variation

 

[DJRome]

daz boring, ive been doing that for years. i prefer the grab edgeguard way more

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCA3xyByJF8&t=1m37s
A reason why I enjoy Samus in teams

Edit: Also, yes the grab edgeguard works well. Also d-air can be used. Abuse of recovery is more fun if its a joke friendly

 

[DJRome]

damnit i wanna play 64! i wanna whup ***!

 

[Blackstreet Boy]

You can uair->dair and start a tech chase if you're lucky.

If you're playing against Yoshi, spam bombs on ground when ledge guarding. If he falls onto them, he'll fall off the stage and his lack of recovery will do the rest of the job.

Jabs also have the same effect but are risky. If he's reaching for the edge, you can try to drop a bomb and punish him.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p2zzNfGBzA

I don't recommend that with players with a good recovery. A dair or a bair ledge guarding is much more effective.

You can do that with Ness until he's stunned enough to go for a 90º PK thunder recovery. Most of the time, he'll pass the egde and you can dair him. Be careful since he's going to try to fast fall -> grab edge.

 

[asianaussie]

What was that in response to? Responding nonetheless.

You can uair->dair and start a tech chase if you're lucky.

While I think this can actually work, it's not in the way you think it does (taking the remainder of the post into consideration).

If you're playing against Yoshi, spam bombs on ground when ledge guarding. If he falls onto them, he'll fall off the stage and his lack of recovery will do the rest of the job.

Jabs also have the same effect but are risky. If he's reaching for the edge, you can try to drop a bomb and punish him.

Incorrect. This does not work against Yoshis who know how to recover or Yoshis below 150%.

I don't recommend that with players with a good recovery. A dair or a bair ledge guarding is much more effective.

Oh, so you did know that. Another viable edgeguard is to threaten them with a charge shot, then edgehog. Or you could grab/bait them into an attack with F-Air.

You can do that with Ness until he's stunned enough to go for a 90º PK thunder recovery. Most of the time, he'll pass the egde and you can dair him. Be careful since he's going to try to fast fall -> grab edge.

While you aren't really wrong, there are a lot of things you aren't considering. What if Ness decides not to fastfall and land on the stage? What if he sweetspots the ledge? What if he has keyboard DI and your D-Air sends him flying onto the stage itself?

 

[Sempiternity]

Uair>Dair never works... Always get Naired out of it...

Except against Falcon sometimes.

 

[The Star King]

Uair > dair works if you land after the uair. It's a legit combo.

 

[Sempiternity]

Yeah, but how often does that happen?

inb4 "more than you think, because i am, in fact, awesome"

 

[The Star King]

I personally never do it, although maybe I should look into it. I was just pointing out that it can work.

 

[asianaussie]

That also happens to be what I was thinking.

We're not talking often, we're talking possible.

 

[crush]

Yeah uair is definitely mad underrated.

 

[RickySSB]

FoxonSamus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhJhM8mIFLg

For all the Samus haters.

 

[Blackstreet Boy]

FoxonSamus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhJhM8mIFLg

For all the Samus haters.

Nobody hates Samus.

 

[Sempiternity]

Hating Samus is like hating mentally handicapped children.

 

[The Star King]

^This. Hate Kirby - the kid who beats up puppies for fun.

 

[ballin4life]

I hate Samus and also Kirby rulz

 

[Pachinkosam]

I hate Samus and also Kirby rulz

true that =P

 

[Olikus]

FoxonSamus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhJhM8mIFLg

For all the Samus haters.

man poor samus, hadnt seen this vid before now

 

[Sempiternity]

I'm just now realizing how much damage U-Smash does.

40%??????

This is why Samus combos are possible.

I'm making some Samus combos withOUT Up Smash!

 

[asianaussie]

That's when it's stale.

It does 50% with all 5 hits if fresh.

 

[The Star King]

Ricky has done tons of Samus combos without USmash noob

 

[Sempiternity]

Ricky has done tons of Samus combos without USmash noob

prove it

 

[The Star King]

Low blow, man, low blow

 

[RickySSB]

prove it

That hurt me.
You won a powerful enemy.

 

[Battlecow]

prove it

*slow clap*

 

[Sangoku]

Samus can't combo. There's nothing to refute that.

Don't lie to us

 

[RickySSB]

Samus can't combo. There's nothing to refute that.

Don't lie to us

If the combo meter goes up to more than 1 hits, is a combo.

 

[Sangoku]

Samus can't do that.

 

[The Star King]

Misuse of the TANK face IMO

Speaking of which why is :koro: not a smashboards emoticon yet (from that Apex pic). I mean there's **** like who the **** is this guy

 

[RickySSB]

Samus can't do that.

Samus can combo. There's nothing to refute that.

Don't lie to us

You are ignoring the meaning of Combo, or simply you are Stupid.

 

[Sangoku]

Misuse of the TANK face IMO

Speaking of which why is :koro: not a smashboards emoticon yet (from that Apex pic). I mean there's **** like who the **** is this guy

Yeah I know, but I was too impatient to use it lol.

Samus can combo. There's nothing to refute that.

Don't lie to us

You are ignoring the meaning of Combo, or simply you are Stupid.

Looks like you're the stupid one...

 

[RickySSB]

Looks like you're the stupid one...

Facts against Opinion. It's like the Science against Religion.
Samus can combo, all characters can combo. If you cant see that, maybe you can't be called a smasher.