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Samuel L. Jackson Mafia 2: Bruce Willis Mafia - The Revenge of Samuel L. Jackson (N6)

~ Gheb ~

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OK, dime do explain. Dhish nighd I wash targedded by a nighd acdion. I wash "punshhed in dhe face", which caushed me do dalk like dhis. A'der adhereing do dhe reshdricdion 'or 500 wordsh a pard o' dhe reshdricdion "wore oud" (lack o' a bedder word). In dhe beginning I wash only allowed do ushe dhe ledder "o" 'or any vocal. Now, do avoid dhad I jushd poshded dhe word "cool" fo' 500 dimesh do ged rid o' dhad. I shdill habbe dhe reshdricdion bud due do adhering do id 'or 500 wordsh I can ad leashd ushe any vocal freely.

Dhe reashon dhish happened wash due do my own nighd acdion. Id hash nodhing do do widh my characder. Dhere aren'd any odher playersh incolved eidher. Jushd a dumb gimmick EE decided do add for whadever reashon. Pay id no mind.

My vode ish on mendosh becaushe he'sh been nudging Omish/shupporting hish wagon widhoud voding him. Omish wagon wash nod legid imo. Overall mendosh looksh shcummy do me becaushe:

1.) Lod'sh o' 'ence shitting (node how I habbe do censhor dodge becaushe o' my reshdricdion lol)
2.) Coashding
3.) Washn'd on dhe dom wagon, hash been defending him in many ishshuesh
4.) He wash on dhe shcumfebber wagon and nudged omish

I'm alsho OK widh wagoning Medi, Madunash and Rockin.

Dhad'sh aboud id.

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~ Gheb ~

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Dhe reashon dhish happened wash due do my own nighd acdion. Id hash nodhing do do widh my characder. Dhere aren'd any odher playersh incolved eidher. Jushd a dumb gimmick EE decided do add for whadever reashon. Pay id no mind.
Acdually, dhish ishn'd con'irmed. Id could be a nighd acdion 'rom somebody elshe. Dhe 'lavour o' dhe PM doeshn'd quide explain id sho I'm nod shure. Id'sh jushd very likely becaushe o' whad happened.

I hade dyping like dhad -____-

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Holy ****. So you say Mentos is scummy for going after me? And you say that a wagon against me was not a good wagon? Just trying to better get what you are saying
 

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First of all, Gheb, I was one of the people who did NOT support the Omis wagon at all. The only post I made that could even be construed as agreeing with that wagon was me explaining that I thought Kevin actually had a legit reason to be voting him, as I also mentioned about Ronike. It wasn't about me agreeing it was strong enough to lynch him, moreso describing that I see where they were coming from and didn't find them scummy if anyone on the wagon was. I didn't ever nudge the Omis wagon forward.

Your point about me coasting should be a null-tell, seeing as I have been so in all my games thanks to life being crazy during that time, and the fact that the games which I have been confirmed scum in I was as active as I always used to be(especially megamaf).

No, I wasn't on the Tom wagon. Why? Because the case against him was NOT strong. This will also respond to your fourth point, but honestly Scumfever's reactions to Tom pointing out his use of fuckhead were very harsh, and I felt that was more of an argument than any that had been brought against Tom. I will still say Rici's argument was terrible, Ronike admitted to working on mostly gut, AND in his 243, he even said that the points I made were legit, and he was working largely off of gut. Most of what led to the Tom wagon stemmed from these two, and nobody gave me a legitimate(IMO) reason to vote Tom. Several other people gave similar reasons to mine to not want to lynch Tom, why don't you call them out?

Now that I'm done defending myself against Gheb's arguments for the moment, I'm going to do some looking into who I find scummy. There are some things about D1 that I want to look into knowing Ronike is town and Tom is scum. Jungle is **** near cleared to me now(even though I still think he could have had a better reaction to Tom's slip argument). So yeah, want to look back with new eyes and see what I see.
 

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You'd better call the rice paddy.


mentosman8: Gheb_01, Marshy, KevinM (3)

Not voting: smashman90, Rockin, Omis, Matunas, Mediocre, mentosman8, Riddle, Macman, Riciardos, scumfever (10)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 of you assholes to lynch!
 

Omis

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what does that even mean? LOL why would you want to do that
Yippie Ki Yay Mothafucker: riciardos
This is Tom being insulting to other players. It may have been in the RVS stage but Im going to use it anyway. Basically it seems like Tom, the ****head, used insults to drag people down. Apparently he does this in other games too.

Fuck this I ain't lettin this little ***** get away with his stupid I'm contributing but not actually doing jack daniels **** worth of anything.

Yippie Ki Yay Mothafucka[: Omis
This post literally has nothing but insults in it. He barely even posts a reason to vote for me and the one pathetic thing he did post against me was just plain lame. He seems to have just wanted to join a bandwagon against me so that it could reach a critical mass. My bandwagon was just an easy ride for people. While I no longer support it, nothing about what I said was bad. I think all that wagoning against me was just really helpful for scum to coast etc.

Fuckin A are my Bro's bandwagoning on Scumfever, I sure do love bandwagons, and scumfever responded EXACTLY how I think scumfever would respond with the fever of scum. ChooFuckinChoo
Unyippie
Yippie Ki Yay Mothafucka: Scumfever
I like to not contribute!

nope sorry

the answer i was looking for from "townfever" would have been to say that you were talking about marshy and saying that he was not a fuckhead. because essentially that is what i read when i read you say "moreso than some other fuckheads" before I saw you add "-fuckheads like me." instead i get a scumfever explanation about how im being stupid and reading too hard

no sorry, im not playing too hard, you're just not hard enough to play with me.

vote stays.
Again the insults continue. While this time they were a lot more subtle there was definitely a hint of putting down prevalent in this post. Im pretty sure that Jungle is town now. I think Tom just tried to take his past experience, apply it here, and make profit by using his status to boost through this. He did pretty well too. Not everyone on Jungle is scum but Im sure at least one of his scum buddies was. Probably early on and experienced. Probably Kevin

When I read a post, I read for everything. I look for flag letters like C, D, T, and W at the start of posts or paragraphs for possible power role breadcrumbing. I look for phrases like "detect, doctored quote/evidence, survive, independently, etc." I examine all capital letters for breadcrumbing, I look at all letters in proximity to punctuation like periods or commas, and I look for anything related to the game in the post (specifically cowboy, ****head, revenge). Sometimes I still miss them and I feel like an idiot. When I do see them however they're rarely wrong. Sometimes they are -- in The Lonely Island mafia, Evil Eye said "the reason why I'm suspecting there is a Traitor is because... I am." I thought this was him telling his mafia that he was their traitor in the middle of a large post. This is basically the only time I've been wrong on SWF though. When it comes to Freudian slips I wasn't wrong with Eor the Rhino and I doubt I'm wrong here. Junglefever specifically called himself a ****head.

Hmm. So then Junglefever would be calling Marshy 'another ****head', and then calling himself a ****head. I guess that is something we could pursue later but I really don't think the focus should be on Marshy. Jungle is the one who made the slip, and if we are to act on it, we can choose to act on him calling himself a ****head, or him calling Marshy and himself a ****head. Jungle being a ****head is the common denominator in those so I think we pressure Jungle.
Boost me-down you
Common tactic to make people feel bad. Show off your prestige and use it to prove why other people cant be as good as you. So ya just more stuff of Tom shooting other people down to keep the down complacent.

all aboard the nonstop oneway express to boner town
Boost me-down you

Fucker, you honestly have nothing else to comment on beside the fact that I brought you up in my post? Get the Fuck outta here.
Boost me-down you
Exact same style of post that Tom was using. I bring up legit point against him to try to gain more insight into what is going on. Im being town and trying to hunt. Instead of asisting me, like a town, he instead insults me and tries to discourage me and make me not want to play.
hello mr riciardos, would you like to play mafia?

you said that i didn't allow jungle to defend himself, and instead, i pushed his face into the ground. instead of using metaphor, why don't you point to things that i specifically said? what do you mean i "didnt allow him to defend himself?" how am i going to STOP someone from defending themselves? they can post whatever they want. in addition, how do i MAKE someone over-react?

you chastise me for looking too hard for a reason to lynch someone. i found something that i believe to be legitimate, it makes logical sense, and i have backing from meta. how am i looking too hard?

do me a favor, ha ha ha. prove that i am looking too hard to find something that is scummy. remove what i have said about junglefever from the equation completely, because it was obviously not there when i brought it up. besides what junglefever said and what i said, what have YOU found that is scummy? nothing. besides what I have produced, you have not found anything of note. so if i had not done this, you wouldn't find anything scummy? and then you would have to, i dunno, TRY HARDER. you're welcome.
This post is very ironic. While responding to a post about him being rude and bringing people down, he brings people down. Tom just seemed to be constantly on about Jungle, what I believe to be a townie, and bringing people down and making it the bad thing not to support him.

Fuckkkkk Nigga getting OFF RIGHT NOW.

Seriously though Omis, slow bro.
Boost me-down you
I wish scum to win so leave me alone Omis.
Very anti activety behavior. The very same that Tom used.



i didn't try to make riciardos look bad. he should look bad for what he said, and i laid out very clearly that what he said to me was just metaphor to replace nothing and if it werent for me he would have nothing.
In this post he buddies with Kevin in trying to make me look bad.

Actually fuckers I'm ok with a Tommy Boy lynch.

Unyippie
Yippie Ky Yay MothaFucka: Tom
This was after the wagon had gained some momentum. Tom is a reasonable guy. I think he new that he wouldnt be able to defend himself because of his V/LA and just let his scum buddies tear him apart to make them look clearer. Its a reasonable thing for a scum to do.


So ya. Basically Im pretty **** sure Kevin is scum. In fact Im going to say that I know he is scum. Im pretty confident on this. Both Tom, scum, used subtle and not so subtle insults to bring down players. With everyone feeling bad no one wants to post and inactivity reigns which benefits the mafia a great deal. Plus Kevin hasnt contributed anything this entire game.

Yippie Ky Yay MothaFucka: Kevin M
 

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I see where you're fuckin comin from Omis, I really do. However, just because Kevin insults someone like Tom does as scum does not make him scum. I know you've played games with Kevin, but whether he's town or not he does this every fuckin time. It's more of a nulltell I think.

I wanna here more from Smashman, Tuna and Rici. Especially from fucking Smashman. Who's on your suspect list?
 

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Im not so sure. He seems to know me pretty well and everyone who knows me knows the I get really pissed off really quickly. I think he is using that to his advantage with the constant slow bro to get me to stop posting. The real question is: Why would Town Kevin try to bring down activity in the same manor Scum Tom did?
 

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FYI: I've swapped the colors for scum vs town. Don't read anything into it, it's just an aesthetic thing.

Also, someone recently suggested to me that double-prodding is unfair. In hindsight, I agree. I think people should keep track of that themselves, but if I didn't prod them after the first three it's not fair they be one strike off of a modkill, especially with so much inactivity already. As such I'll remove a strike from everyone that got double-prodded.

That is all.
 

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Fuckin just makin sure Omis is still bad at this game.

Anyways more voting Mentos go go go go go.

Fuckin Omis want me to give you some mafia advice, if you let **** get personal and let that guide your vote, you're always going to suck. You're carrying your anger over from other games and it shows terribly. Your case is just all fucking reaching.
 

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Fuck I read like three times and my mind is blown.

You caught me Omis, because both me and Tom insulted people in a game where everyone is throwing out insults you got it.

Make a fucking case based off scum hunting and now WAMMBULANCE HE HURT MY FEELINGS. ****ing baby.
 

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Okay, before I post my insight, I'm gonna try and translate to what Gheb is saying. Please bare with me. I get enough bitching from those that points out many grammar mistakes...fucking nazis... >:


Shop goysh, o'm roplocong. O dod o rorood ond o hobbo o 'ow dhongsh do shoy.

(1.) Omosh wogon woshn'd logod od oll. O dhonk ho'sh down 'or now
(2.) O'm shoshposooos o' mondoshmon, modoocro, morshhy, rockon ond Modonosh. Ono o' dhosho goysh shoold do'onodoly doo doDoy. O con dry do oloborodo on dhosho bod os yoo con shoo ot'sh hord do rood mo poshdsh.
(3.) O doshogroo wodh o lod o' whod morshhy sood. Roco osn'd cloor od oll joshd bocoosho dom "onsholdsh" hom.

Yoppoo Ko Yoy Modhor'ockor mondosmon

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Sup guys, I'm replacing. did a reread and I have a whole bunch to share.

(1.) Omni wagon woshn'd logod od oll. I think he's town for now
(2.) I'm suspicious of mentosman, mediocre, marshy, rockin and Modonosh. One of those guys should definitly die toDay. I can try to oloborodo on dhosho bod os yoo con shoo ot'sh hord do rood mo poshdsh.
(3.) I disagree with a lot of what Marshy said. Rico isn't clear od oll joshd bocoosho dom "onsholdsh" hom.

Yippie ki yay motherfucker mentosman

More later.

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OK, dime do explain. Dhish nighd I wash targedded by a nighd acdion. I wash "punshhed in dhe face", which caushed me do dalk like dhis. A'der adhereing do dhe reshdricdion 'or 500 wordsh a pard o' dhe reshdricdion "wore oud" (lack o' a bedder word). In dhe beginning I wash only allowed do ushe dhe ledder "o" 'or any vocal. Now, do avoid dhad I jushd poshded dhe word "cool" fo' 500 dimesh do ged rid o' dhad. I shdill habbe dhe reshdricdion bud due do adhering do id 'or 500 wordsh I can ad leashd ushe any vocal freely.

Dhe reashon dhish happened wash due do my own nighd acdion. Id hash nodhing do do widh my characder. Dhere aren'd any odher playersh incolved eidher. Jushd a dumb gimmick EE decided do add for whadever reashon. Pay id no mind.

My vode ish on mendosh becaushe he'sh been nudging Omish/shupporting hish wagon widhoud voding him. Omish wagon wash nod legid imo. Overall mendosh looksh shcummy do me becaushe:

1.) Lod'sh o' 'ence shitting (node how I habbe do censhor dodge becaushe o' my reshdricdion lol)
2.) Coashding
3.) Washn'd on dhe dom wagon, hash been defending him in many ishshuesh
4.) He wash on dhe shcumfebber wagon and nudged omish

I'm alsho OK widh wagoning Medi, Madunash and Rockin.

Dhad'sh aboud id.

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OK, time to explain. This night I was targeted by a night action. I was "punched in the face", which caused me do talk like this. After adhereing to the restriction 'or 500 words a part of the restriction "wore out" (lack of a better word). In the beginning I was only allowed do use the letter "o" 'or any vocal. Now, to avoid that I just posted the word "cool" 500 times to get rid of that. I still have the restriction but due to adhering do id 'or 500 words I can at least use any vocal freely.

The reason this happened was due do my own night action. I has nothing to do with my character. There arn't any other players involved either. Just a dumb gimmick EE decided do and for whatever reason. Pay it no mind.

My vote is on mentos because he's been nudging Omis/supporting his wagon without voting him. Omis wagon was not legit imo. Overall mentos looks scummy to me because:

1.) Lots of fence sitting (note how I have to censor dodge because of my restriction lol)
2.) Coasting
3.) Was on the Tom wagon, has been defending him in many issues
4.) He was on the scumfever wagon and nudged omis

I'm also OK with wagoning Medi, Matunas and Rockin.

thats about it.

Acdually, dhish ishn'd con'irmed. Id could be a nighd acdion 'rom somebody elshe. Dhe 'lavour o' dhe PM doeshn'd quide explain id sho I'm nod shure. Id'sh jushd very likely becaushe o' whad happened.

I hade dyping like dhad -____-

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Actually, this isn't confirmed. It could be a night action or somebody else. The flavor of the PM doesn't quite explain it so I'm not sure. It'd just very likely because of what happened.

I hate typing like that -____-




I wouldn't fucking blame you, Gheb. That does look annoying to type.
 

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I'm kinda tempt to ask Gheb if he could say ' nuclear weasle' LOL (Anyone who's in the adventure game would understand why). Sucks for Gheb to type like that though.

In terms of Mentos, I'm not sure what to really say about it. From the most part, I don't find anything really scummy about him atm, but this is just me, really.

However, there is something I want to bring to the table and that's Riddle. Out of all the players, he's been the least amount of help for town (if at all)


Avoiding a prod. Thoughts later if I have the time.
He puts a quick post saying he'll put in something to contribute.

Yippi Ki Yay Motherfucker: Omis

Wtf was that post? Stop posting dumbass shit like that or get the fuck out please. What makes you think we need to policy lynch anyone at all? I would rather lynch people for posting shit like that.
This was his next post. He puts down on Omis for doing a policy lynch on someone such as marshy. Then he votes for him

Honestly, I don't think a policy lynch is a bad thing no matter how good/awesome the player is. Like anyone else, there are reasons for that said policy. Marshy should be no different. If there's a reason for said policy lynch, it should at least be considered instead of 'Oh, _____ is a awesome player. why get rid of him?'. I also feel no one shouldn't really vote someone for policy lynching a good player, which was why I asked Jf, Riddle and (somewhat) KevinM. There wasn't enough merit for a vote IMO.

No. What's your point? We should lynch a strong player just because we can't get a read off of him instead of a mad scummy player?
Downplaying Omis' logic of policy lynching Marshy.

I also believe that Omis is scummy. Policy lynching is an easy way for scum to get by Day 1 without much discussion or information gained. Omis not only tried to start a policy lynch but on one the games most experienced and potentially helpful players. I find this scummy and I feel that it justifies my vote.
He explains that scum uses the policy lynch tactic to get by D1 without much discussion, when this has been used by a townie (at least if I remember right, it has). Another post of making Omis look bad.

Yes, any serious proposal of a policy lynch is scummy to me.
It's pretty straight forward, and is still gripping on the policy lynch incident. I asked him a question that if a **** weaker player of sorts was policy lynched if he would be more into it. So far, I have yet to recieve an answer.

I don't think that Scumfever has a post restriction that says "You must use a lot of one-liners and say the word fuck in them." However the swearing part is quite possible and wouldn't surprise me at all. Unfortunately this hardly narrows it down at all as to who it could be.

Anyways, when I first read Tom's case I was skeptical, however scumfever's response left a little to be desired. I'd like to continue pressuring him and questioning him and gauge his reactions a little more.

Questions for Jungle:

1) Do you understand why many people think your post was a slip?
2) Why did you respond in the way you did?
3) Do you find your wagoners suspicious?

Actually, everyone can answer the third question if they want. I know I don't find them suspicious.

This is actually the first post he has done in terms of contributing throughout the entire Day of hounding at Omis. Looks like he's slightly considering the jf wagon, but has yet to really jump on it. In stead, he rather questions him a bit further.

Lol @ Ronike. I already knew that you hated me though
Useless post

@Tom, okay I'll remember that.

And I don't think Omis is specifically scummy for being on the Jungle wagon, however I do think he is scummy for his policy lynch ****.
He notes that Omis isn't scummy for jumping on the wagon, but is still scummy on the policy lynch.

Here's my thoughts at this point:

Omis - The playstlye lynch **** was really annoying and fuckhead-ish to me. Any serious proposal of a playstyle lynch is scummy in my book.

Scumfever - Ehh, I agree with Tuna. The flavor is so different that I doubt that the real reason he said fuckhead was, because he was in fact, a fuckhead. I think he was just using the term like you might in normal speech.
A small post telling what he feels about both Omis and JF.

Useless post is useless.
Just like what it is, it's useless.

unyippi, yippi ki yay motherfucker: Tom

Out of the two possible lynch candidates Tom seems the best, and I reealy don't want a no lynch. Omis can wait for tomorrow.
Then, out of fucking no where, he jumps right on the Tom wagon, while giving note that he'll be on Omis' *** D2. The is the one main thing I don't like out of all of Riddle's posts.

From what I seen, Riddle seemed to just have been fence sitting, but was being sure to keep close to Omis. Riddle also has tunneled throughout D1 on Omis *** and it's very uncool to do that. Not to mention he hasn't really contributed at all throughout what happen. Most of his post is his beef with Omis. The guy never commented or gave a big opinion on the jungle wagon, Tom vs Rici, or the Tom wagon.

Right now, I find riddle pretty scummy right about now.

yippie ki yay motherfucker: Riddle

He better fucking convince me otherwise to take off that vote from him. Otherwise, it's staying.
 

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Sigh. I hope everyone doesn't have a random *** role-name.

riddle is clearly town. Riddle voted Tom after a people started speaking up against a Tom lynch. i don't really see a reason for scum to make that play i mean i can't really see scum being on the Tom wagon. Pretty much agree with Marshy's d2 opening post for the time being. don't agree with the smashman part though. It's very easy for scum to lead a n early bw on their fellow partner. The early wagons never really amount to anything, and I can easily see Tom shedding suspicion on his partner early on.

Tom's bw started pretty abruptly and randomly started to gain ground. Marshy, reason for your unvote?

vote: rockin dunno why you would think riddle is scum for. What's your current read on Mentos and Marshy?

we all suck for lynching scum d1
 

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Holy ****. So you say Mentos is scummy for going after me? And you say that a wagon against me was not a good wagon? Just trying to better get what you are saying
Yesh, dhad'sh whad I'm shaying. Dhad'sh nod all bud id'sh correcd nonedheleshsh. I habbe odher reashonsh do dhink mendos os shcum dhough.

First of all, Gheb, I was one of the people who did NOT support the Omis wagon at all. The only post I made that could even be construed as agreeing with that wagon was me explaining that I thought Kevin actually had a legit reason to be voting him, as I also mentioned about Ronike.
Which ish ash 'ar ash I can shee dhe only poshd you made aboud dhe wagon in dhe 'irshd place. Bodh cashesh (Kebb and Ron) were "shupporded" by you and you encouraged them, indendional or nod. Dhe odher poshd aboud Omish you made wash delling him dhad hish cashe ish crap (which ish drue imo) bud again id doeshn'd go do shhow how you were againshd dhe Omish wagon. Dwo commendsh on id bud neidher shhowsh dhad you're againshd dhe wagon yed you claim jushd dhad now.

It wasn't about me agreeing it was strong enough to lynch him, moreso describing that I see where they were coming from and didn't find them scummy if anyone on the wagon was. I didn't ever nudge the Omis wagon forward.
Yesh, you did imo. Id maybe washn'd indendional bud by legidimizing Kebb'sh and Ron'sh reashonsh do bbode omish you nudged dhe whole dhing.

Your point about me coasting should be a null-tell, seeing as I have been so in all my games thanks to life being crazy during that time, and the fact that the games which I have been confirmed scum in I was as active as I always used to be(especially megamaf).
K, Id shdill droublesh me. A lod o' dhe shdu'' you poshded was vacuum do me. I'll go indo dedail lader.

No, I wasn't on the Tom wagon. Why? Because the case against him was NOT strong. This will also respond to your fourth point, but honestly Scumfever's reactions to Tom pointing out his use of fuckhead were very harsh, and I felt that was more of an argument than any that had been brought against Tom.
I 'ound dom poinding oud dhe whole " 'uck'ace" dhing a lod more shushpicioush dhan shcum'ebber himshel'. I don'd know how dhad'sh even shushpiciosh bud I 'ound id weird how nobody (leashd of all you) excepd like Ronike poinded oud dhad dhere'sh nodhing wrong widh shcumfebber. O' all dhe people around you were moshd shuppording of dom'sh cashe.

I will still say Rici's argument was terrible
Agreed. Rici ishn'd clear becaushe of dhad condrary do whad Marshhy shaid.

Ronike admitted to working on mostly gut, AND in his 243, he even said that the points I made were legit, and he was working largely off of gut. Most of what led to the Tom wagon stemmed from these two, and nobody gave me a legitimate(IMO) reason to vote Tom.
Doeshn'd madder imo. Ronike'sh cashe wash bashed on legid medagaming. Dom's reacdion wash shcummy becaushe Rici'sh cashe wash sho horrible. Id was liderraly nodhing do worry aboud bud dom sdill " 'reaked out" (kinda), which lefd a bad dasde in my moudh when I reread dhe dhread. I acdually dhink dhad him shdarding dhe whole shcumfebber wagon wash dhe moshd shushpicioush dhing D1 and I'm shurprished dhad id didn'd ged more addendion.

Several other people gave similar reasons to mine to not want to lynch Tom, why don't you call them out?
I did. Mediocre, Madunashcum and Rockin are all on my radar and I have a hard dime drusding marshhy doo.

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i'm still pissed ronike died and would like to rage some more and let any protective role(s) know that they're a fucking idiot for letting ronike die. how do you let the guy who spearheads a scumbag lynch die? worst doc(s) ever

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Fuckin why would I lynch Tom D1 as a scum buddy when I could just as easily switch a lynch onto any of the bad mafia players here, don't tunnel you're wrong end of discussion.
 

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Yesh, dhad'sh whad I'm shaying. Dhad'sh nod all bud id'sh correcd nonedheleshsh. I habbe odher reashonsh do dhink mendos os shcum dhough.
Yes, that is what I'm saying. That's not all but it's correct nonetheless. I have other reasons to think mentos is scum though.

Which ish ash 'ar ash I can shee dhe only poshd you made aboud dhe wagon in dhe 'irshd place. Bodh cashesh (Kebb and Ron) were "shupporded" by you and you encouraged them, indendional or nod. Dhe odher poshd aboud Omish you made wash delling him dhad hish cashe ish crap (which ish drue imo) bud again id doeshn'd go do shhow how you were againshd dhe Omish wagon. Dwo commendsh on id bud neidher shhowsh dhad you're againshd dhe wagon yed you claim jushd dhad now.
Which is as far as I can see the only push you made about the wagon in the first place. Both cases (Kev and Ron) were "supported" by you and you encouraged them, indential or not. The other push about Omis you made was telling him that his case is crap (which is true imo) but again it doesn't go to show how you were against the Omis wagon. Do comment on it but neither show showed that you're against the wagon yet you claim just that now.



Yesh, you did imo. Id maybe washn'd indendional bud by legidimizing Kebb'sh and Ron'sh reashonsh do bbode omish you nudged dhe whole dhing.
Yeah, you did IMO. It maybe was intentional but by legitimizing kev's and Ron's reasons to both Omis you nudged the whole thing.

K, Id shdill droublesh me. A lod o' dhe shdu'' you poshded was vacuum do me. I'll go indo dedail lader.
K, it still troubles me. A lot of the stuff you pushed was vacuum to me. I'll go and detail later.

I 'ound dom poinding oud dhe whole " 'uck'ace" dhing a lod more shushpicioush dhan shcum'ebber himshel'. I don'd know how dhad'sh even shushpiciosh bud I 'ound id weird how nobody (leashd of all you) excepd like Ronike poinded oud dhad dhere'sh nodhing wrong widh shcumfebber. O' all dhe people around you were moshd shuppording of dom'sh cashe.
Random pointing of the whole "fuckface thing a lot more suspicious them scumhunter himself. I don't know how that's even suspicious but I found it weird how nobody (least all of you) expected like Ronike pointing out that there's nothing wrong with scumhunter. Of all the people around you were mostly supporting Tom's case.



Agreed. Rici ishn'd clear becaushe of dhad condrary do whad Marshhy shaid.
Agreed. Rici isn't clear because of that contrary to what Marshy said.

Doeshn'd madder imo. Ronike'sh cashe wash bashed on legid medagaming. Dom's reacdion wash shcummy becaushe Rici'sh cashe wash sho horrible. Id was liderraly nodhing do worry aboud bud dom sdill " 'reaked out" (kinda), which lefd a bad dasde in my moudh when I reread dhe dhread. I acdually dhink dhad him shdarding dhe whole shcumfebber wagon wash dhe moshd shushpicioush dhing D1 and I'm shurprished dhad id didn'd ged more addendion.
Doesn't matter imo. Ronike's case was based on legit metagaming. Tom's reaction was scummy because rici's case was just horrible. It was litterally nothing to worry about but Tom still 'freaked out' (kinda), which left a bad taste in my mouth when I reread the thread. I actually think that him starting the whole scumfever wagon was the most suspicious thing D1 and I'm surprised that it didn't get more attention.

I did. Mediocre, Madunashcum and Rockin are all on my radar and I have a hard dime drusding marshhy doo.
I did. Mediocre, Matunas, and Rockin are all on my radar and I have a hard time trusting Marshy too



Moshd o' dhad ish correcd. You can hash a cookie.

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Marsho had it correct. You can have a cookie.

MY RESPONSE:

....I....I get a cookie?



FUCK YEAH, BITCHES!
 

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Rockin, you don'd need do dranshlade anymore. I dhink id'sh kinda eashy do read now.

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Sigh. I hope everyone doesn't have a random *** role-name.

riddle is clearly town. Riddle voted Tom after a people started speaking up against a Tom lynch. i don't really see a reason for scum to make that play i mean i can't really see scum being on the Tom wagon. Pretty much agree with Marshy's d2 opening post for the time being. don't agree with the smashman part though. It's very easy for scum to lead a n early bw on their fellow partner. The early wagons never really amount to anything, and I can easily see Tom shedding suspicion on his partner early on.

Tom's bw started pretty abruptly and randomly started to gain ground. Marshy, reason for your unvote?

vote: rockin dunno why you would think riddle is scum for. What's your current read on Mentos and Marshy?

we all suck for lynching scum d1
So he just basically jumped on because everyone was fucking doing it (that bolded part I mean). Keep in mind he was the 2nd person to jump on a Omis bandwagon and never quite got off till tide with Tom was going against him. Regardless, he's just been super tunnel visoned and hasn't really been contributing with discussion much. Mac, I would appriciate it if you let Riddle defend himself if you feel he's town.

Omis, I look at your case and all I see is frustration that both KevinM and Tom were being fucking *******s to you. That's about it. Omis, I understand you may get angered easily, but you have to understand that if they **** on you, that you shouldn't take it so personally. When you do, you won't have as much fun playing a Mafia game and, even worse, get your mind clouded on the worst thing. Remember, you're going after scum, not *******s. I think you should really reread your case. Right now, I'm still seeing KevinM playing the same ol game, with a extra spice of him saying 'fuck.'
 

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First of all, Omis, stop being so **** tunnel-visioned. Kevin is not necessarily the play today, and stop acting like there's no other choice. I'm struggling between scum or just acting ridiculous right now.

@Rockin: Is all you're going to post fucking translations of Gheb's posts? That is the highest form of feigning activity I've ever seen, you literally are posting without putting any of your own thoughts out whatsoever. I don't know about everyone else, but I can read Gheb's posts perfectly fine, and I'm getting tired of seeing the same posts repeated.

@Gheb: You say you have other reasons to think I'm scum, let's hear them. No reason to withhold part of your case.
 

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Fuckin now that we nailed scum D1 lets lynch Omis so we can go through the rest of the game without the waambulance tampon brigade around.

Also Mentos, where do you want to look I'm EXTREMELY interested in what you have to say not being on the Tom wagon and all.
 

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@Rockin: Is all you're going to post fucking translations of Gheb's posts? That is the highest form of feigning activity I've ever seen, you literally are posting without putting any of your own thoughts out whatsoever. I don't know about everyone else, but I can read Gheb's posts perfectly fine, and I'm getting tired of seeing the same posts repeated.
I'm going to fucking assume the doubt that due to my translations, you didn't see the other two posts I made that contributes to the current discussion:

I'm kinda tempt to ask Gheb if he could say ' nuclear weasle' LOL (Anyone who's in the adventure game would understand why). Sucks for Gheb to type like that though.

In terms of Mentos, I'm not sure what to really say about it. From the most part, I don't find anything really scummy about him atm, but this is just me, really.

However, there is something I want to bring to the table and that's Riddle. Out of all the players, he's been the least amount of help for town (if at all)




He puts a quick post saying he'll put in something to contribute.



This was his next post. He puts down on Omis for doing a policy lynch on someone such as marshy. Then he votes for him

Honestly, I don't think a policy lynch is a bad thing no matter how good/awesome the player is. Like anyone else, there are reasons for that said policy. Marshy should be no different. If there's a reason for said policy lynch, it should at least be considered instead of 'Oh, _____ is a awesome player. why get rid of him?'. I also feel no one shouldn't really vote someone for policy lynching a good player, which was why I asked Jf, Riddle and (somewhat) KevinM. There wasn't enough merit for a vote IMO.



Downplaying Omis' logic of policy lynching Marshy.



He explains that scum uses the policy lynch tactic to get by D1 without much discussion, when this has been used by a townie (at least if I remember right, it has). Another post of making Omis look bad.



It's pretty straight forward, and is still gripping on the policy lynch incident. I asked him a question that if a **** weaker player of sorts was policy lynched if he would be more into it. So far, I have yet to recieve an answer.




This is actually the first post he has done in terms of contributing throughout the entire Day of hounding at Omis. Looks like he's slightly considering the jf wagon, but has yet to really jump on it. In stead, he rather questions him a bit further.



Useless post



He notes that Omis isn't scummy for jumping on the wagon, but is still scummy on the policy lynch.



A small post telling what he feels about both Omis and JF.



Just like what it is, it's useless.



Then, out of fucking no where, he jumps right on the Tom wagon, while giving note that he'll be on Omis' *** D2. The is the one main thing I don't like out of all of Riddle's posts.

From what I seen, Riddle seemed to just have been fence sitting, but was being sure to keep close to Omis. Riddle also has tunneled throughout D1 on Omis *** and it's very uncool to do that. Not to mention he hasn't really contributed at all throughout what happen. Most of his post is his beef with Omis. The guy never commented or gave a big opinion on the jungle wagon, Tom vs Rici, or the Tom wagon.

Right now, I find riddle pretty scummy right about now.

yippie ki yay motherfucker: Riddle

He better fucking convince me otherwise to take off that vote from him. Otherwise, it's staying.
So he just basically jumped on because everyone was fucking doing it (that bolded part I mean). Keep in mind he was the 2nd person to jump on a Omis bandwagon and never quite got off till tide with Tom was going against him. Regardless, he's just been super tunnel visoned and hasn't really been contributing with discussion much. Mac, I would appriciate it if you let Riddle defend himself if you feel he's town.

Omis, I look at your case and all I see is frustration that both KevinM and Tom were being fucking *******s to you. That's about it. Omis, I understand you may get angered easily, but you have to understand that if they **** on you, that you shouldn't take it so personally. When you do, you won't have as much fun playing a Mafia game and, even worse, get your mind clouded on the worst thing. Remember, you're going after scum, not *******s. I think you should really reread your case. Right now, I'm still seeing KevinM playing the same ol game, with a extra spice of him saying 'fuck.'
As you can see, I am contributing the best I can.

Macman - (sorry I didn't answer this) From what I seen, I still see Mentos as town. It just looked like he went for a more obvious direction of possible scum towards someone who barely looked scum at all. Looking back, I saw JF as scum just like Mentos did.

Marshy I don't know about. I argued before that if JF was lynched and he turned up Maf, that I SUGGESTED (to make it clear due to Marshy knee jerking me) that they should pay attention to him. Not an order nor a demand. Just a extra thing to keep in consideration. Right now, I don't think he's mafia, but I'm not fucking fully ready to accept him as town so quickly. I guess it's neutral right now.
 

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Honestly, my first thought would be Medi. While I posted that I didn't like the arguments given supporting the Tom lynch, and hence would not join it because I didn't see a strong argument, Medi seemed to be actually defending Tom. Some of his posts definitely seemed to be straight up arguing a case against Tom's lynch. More specifically, the comments he made about how he's seen tom play town and scum and never like he was, and those about believing he would notice something like that seem like something more fitting of a defense Tom would give than simply disagreeing with the lynch because of disagreeing with the arguments.
 

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I still think Tom's case was legitimate, even if his motivations were not. Moreover, I would not be at all surprised if Tom's case against junglefever was false antagonism. In other words, I still suspect that jungle is scum, despite Tom and his kerfuffle.

The fact that people are attacking me for defending Tom is silly. If I were scum, there is no way I would risk defending my scum buddy. A townie I would absolutely defend, because that might get me town points. My scum buddy? Naw.

If you feel you have to lynch me for whatever reason, go ahead. Just let me claim first, if you decide I'm on the top of the town's collective scum list. I suspect my role will convince you otherwise.
 

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medi you're annoying me because i also don't see you being so blatant in defending your scumbuddy considering star fox. but on the flipside there looks like there WAS an effort to save tom considering the scumfevah competing wagon. hm
 

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Fuckin Vets are pissing me off so much right now, why are all of you hinting at possible PRs when there is BARELY any pressure on you.
 

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Gheb starts to cough, massaging his jaw vigorously.

"Guysh... my 'ucking jaw... oh my 'ucking God thish shhit hurtsh... 'uuuucckkkk..."



He drops to a knee, eyes rolling into the back of his head, and collapses. After splashing some water on his face and icing his jaw, you're able to wake him up an hour later. Fuckin' baby.





Yeah, Tommy. Captain Wubba's gonna save Planet Xenon. But I need your help.


mentosman8: Marshy, KevinM (2)

Riddle: Rockin (1)

Not voting: smashman90, Omis, Matunas, Mediocre, mentosman8, Riddle, Macman, Riciardos, scumfever, Gheb_01 (10)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 of you assholes to lynch!
 

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the fuck are there 10 people not voting when there's so much to go off of? get off your asses
 

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marshy, what are your current thoughts on gheb?
medi, most of your post is just wifom. who are you suspicious of?

yppi ki yay mofo: rockin
i used the wrong voting format before on purpose
 

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@Gheb: You say you have other reasons to think I'm scum, let's hear them. No reason to withhold part of your case.
I told you everything I got. The "other reasons" were in response to Omis (he thought I vote for you because you nudged him but I had "other reasons" too).

I still think Tom's case was legitimate, even if his motivations were not. Moreover, I would not be at all surprised if Tom's case against junglefever was false antagonism. In other words, I still suspect that jungle is scum, despite Tom and his kerfuffle.


The fact that people are attacking me for defending Tom is silly. If I were scum, there is no way I would risk defending my scum buddy. A townie I would absolutely defend, because that might get me town points. My scum buddy? Naw.


If you feel you have to lynch me for whatever reason, go ahead. Just let me claim first, if you decide I'm on the top of the town's collective scum list. I suspect my role will convince you otherwise.
Scum or dumb?
The underlined part is 100% unfiltered WIFOM. No point in arguing like that as a townie. Also hinting at a power role when you have like no vote at all and were barely under any pressure is extremely dumb and again it's not something a townie would/should do at this point.

To bad I can't change my vote because of EE's fagtastic gimmicks.

Gheb starts to cough, massaging his jaw vigorously.

"Guysh... my 'ucking jaw... oh my 'ucking God thish shhit hurtsh... 'uuuucckkkk..."

He drops to a knee, eyes rolling into the back of his head, and collapses. After splashing some water on his face and icing his jaw, you're able to wake him up an hour later. Fuckin' baby.
EE'S POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE THE SHITTIEST THING IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING UNIVERSE

Okay, so here's what happened. I got punshed in the fact toNight as I already explained. The posting restriction I had to adhere to was the consequence of this. For the first 500 words I had to:

- replace any vocal with "o"
- replace "s" with "sh" (that's why I had to censor dodge "fence-sitting")
- replace "v" with "bb"
- replace "t" with "d"
- I couldn't use the letter "f" at all. I replaced it with an apostrophe.

The next 1000 words were the same except that I could use any vocal and was not restricted to only "o". However, I already broke the restrictioin (at least) 4 times now. The consequence of this is that I can't change my vote any longer - it'll stick with mentos for the rest of the day. At least I got rid of my posting restriction now but I'd rather have my vote... so just to remind every motherfucker:

EE'S POSTING RESTRICTIONS ARE THE SHITTIEST THING IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING UNIVERSE

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Will post some thoughts later on as I need to catch up. Also, funny thing that I noticed how some had to mention that I was not cleared xD. Of course I'm never fully cleared, but if you really think about it, why would I as scum vote on a scumbuddy on the first day when another player was almost lynched already? But ah well.
 
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