[SA] Southern Cross Championships 2K14 (SxC) - SA MAJOR FEATURING SMASH 4 WII U - Dec (5)/6/7

[Kaiza]

Smash @ Southern Cross Championship (SXC) 2K14
Hey everyone! Kaiza here.
If you've been paying attention to SA's stream or Facebook group then you may have heard about a new SA major for Smash to be at. Southern Cross Championships (SXC) is in it's 2nd year running and this year we are proud to announce that we will be hosting tournaments for FOUR Smash Bros. titles:
Melee, Project M, Brawl
AND, the first state in Australia to host
Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U
(Wii U's and GC adapters will be provided, but it doesn't stop you from bringing your own)

When is it?
December 6 & 7

Where is it?
Rumours Cafe & Harry Medlin Rooms, Union House @ University of Adelaide (North Terrace) - South Australia

PRIZES?
YES!
1st - 60%
2nd - 30%
3rd - 10%

$250 POT BONUS FOR MELEE AND PROJECT M

What about flights?
Tigerair is doing good deals on flights from Sydney ($55 one way) right now on webjet, if you're interested it's a good bet to jump on this offer

Accomodation?
Most of the people travelling interstate for other games are staying at the Crowne Plaza where we have an actual deal booked with them (mention Southern Cross Championships) with is located in the city. Or you could post in our SA Smash Bros. Facebook group where there are a good amount of people willing to house you for the weekend

Fees:
$40 Competitor Pass Pre-Registration (or $50 door signup)
$10 Singles Events
$5 Doubles Events

Ruleset:

Melee

Spoiler

STAGE LIST:
Starter:
Battlefield | Final Destination | Yoshi's Story | Dreamland N64 | Fountain of Dreams

Counterpick:
Pokemon Stadium

GENERAL RULES:
• Stocks: 4
• Time Limit: 8 Minutes
• Items: Off and NONE.
• Double Elimination Bracket
• Bracket Sets: Best of 3
• Finals Sets: Best of 5
• Pause: Pause is set to off for all tournament matches. In the event it is not set to off and the game is accidentally paused, the player responsible for the pause will forfeit 1 stock
• Disqualification Clause: After a match has been called; if a player is 2 minutes late he will receive a warning. At 4 minutes late, he will be given a loss for the first game of the set. After 6 minutes, he will be given a loss of the entire set.

DOUBLES RULES:
• Team Attack: On
• Sharing stocks is allowed
• Controller Ports: 1221
• Fountain of Dreams is banned and is replaced by Pokemon Stadium as a Starter.

OTHER RULES:
• If time runs out, the winner is determined by stock, then percentage.
• If time runs out and both stock and percentage are identical, or a game ends with both players being KO'd simultaneously, then a re-match is played on the same stage with the same characters.
• Extending an infinite lock/chain/combo above 200% is banned.
• Wobbling is legal

SET PROCEDURE:
1. Players will Rock-Paper-Scissors over port priority (i.e. who gets to be Player 1)
2. Both players choose their characters (as well as their costume) for the first game. A double-blind pick may be requested by either player.
3. Players strike stages from the Starter Stage List in a P1-P2-P2-P1 order
4. The winner of the previous game is allowed to ban 1 stage the opponent can not pick in the next game. (Does not apply during 'Finals' Sets)
5. The loser of the previous game chooses a stage from the Starter or Counterpick Stage List. Neither player may select a stage that they have won on previously in the set without their opponent's permission. (Dave's Stupid Rule)
6. The winner of the previous game chooses their character.
7. The loser of the previous game chooses their character.
8. Steps 5-7 are repeated as necessary.

Project M 3.5

Spoiler

STAGE LIST:
Starter:
Green Hill Zone | Pokemon Stadium 2 | Battlefield | Smashville | Dreamland N64

Counterpick:
Yoshi's Island | Wario Ware | Final Destination | Norfair | Yoshi's Story

GENERAL RULES:
• Stocks: 4
• Time Limit: 8 Minutes
• Items: Off and NONE.
• Input buffer is disabled
• Double Elimination Bracket
• Bracket Sets: Best of 3
• Finals Sets: Best of 5
• Pause: Pause is set to off for all tournament matches. In the event it is not set to off and the game is accidentally paused, the player responsible for the pause will forfeit 1 stock
• Disqualification Clause: After a match has been called; if a player is 2 minutes late they will receive a warning. At 4 minutes late, they will be given a loss for the first game of the set. After 6 minutes, they will be given a loss of the entire set.

DOUBLES RULES:
• Team Attack: On
• Sharing stocks is allowed
• Yoshi's Story is banned and is replaced by Distant Planet as a starter.

OTHER RULES:
• If time runs out, the winner is determined by stock, then percentage.
• If time runs out and both stock and percentage are identical, or a game ends with both players being KO'd simultaneously, then a re-match is played on the same stage with the same characters.
• Extending an infinite lock/chain/combo above 200% is banned.

SET PROCEDURE:
1. Both players choose their characters (as well as their costume) for the first game. A double-blind pick may be requested by either player.
2. Players will Rock-Paper-Scissors and the winner will choose between being second to ban or to have port priority.
3. Players strike stages from the Starter Stage List in a P1-P2-P2-P1 order.
4. The winner of the previous game is allowed to ban any 2 stages the opponent can not pick in the next game.
(Bans will be allowed in 'finals' sets)
5. The loser of the previous game chooses a stage from the Starter or Counterpick Stage List. Neither player may select a stage that they have won on previously in the set without their opponent's permission. (Dave's Stupid Rule)
6. The winner of the previous game chooses their character.
7. The loser of the previous game chooses their character.
8. Steps 5-7 are repeated as necessary.

1-Stock Brawl

Spoiler

STAGE LIST:
Starter:
Battlefield | Final Destination | Smashville | Yoshi's Island | Pokemon Stadium 1

Counterpick:
Lylat Cruise | Delfino Plaza | Frigate Orpheon | Halberd | Castle Siege

GENERAL RULES:
• Stocks: 1
• Time Limit: 3 Minutes
• Items: Off and NONE.
• Double Elimination Bracket
• Bracket Sets: Best of 5
• Finals Sets: Best of 7
• Pause: Pause is set to off for all tournament matches. In the event it is not set to off and the game is accidentally paused, the player responsible for the pause will forfeit 1 stock
• Disqualification Clause: After a match has been called; if a player is 2 minutes late he will receive a warning. At 4 minutes late, he will be given a loss for the first game of the set. After 6 minutes, he will be given a loss of the entire set.
OTHER RULES:
• If time runs out, the winner is determined by stock, then percentage.
• If both stock and percentage are identical, or a game ends with both players being KO'd simultaneously, then a re-match is played.
• Extending Meta Knight's Dimensional Cape is banned.
• Ledge-Grab Limit: If time runs out and a player has grabbed the ledge over 30 times during the match (15 if the player is using Meta Knight), he is given an automatic game loss regardless of stocks and percentage.

SET PROCEDURE:
1. Players will Rock-Paper-Scissors for port priority and will stay in those ports for the set
2. Both players choose their characters (as well as their sub-character and costume) for the first game. A double-blind pick may be requested by either player.
3. Players strike stages from the Starter Stage List in a P1-P2-P2-P1 order.
4. The winner of the previous game is allowed to ban 1 stage the opponent can not pick in the next game. (Does not apply during 'Finals' Sets)
5. The loser of the previous game chooses a stage from the Starter or Counterpick Stage List. Neither player may select a stage that they have won on previously in the set without their opponent's permission.(DSR)
6. The winner of the previous game chooses their character.
7. The loser of the previous game chooses their character.
8. Steps 5-7 are repeated as necessary.

Smash 4

Spoiler

STAGE LIST:
STARTER:
Battlefield | Final Destination | Town and City | Lylat Cruise | Smashville

COUNTERPICK:
Delfino Island | Skyloft | Duck Hunt | Halberd

GENERAL RULES:
• Stocks: 2
• Time Limit: 6 Minutes
• Items: Off and NONE.
• Double Elimination Bracket
• Bracket Sets: Best of 3
• Finals Sets: Best of 5
• Custom moves are banned
• Pause: Pause is set to off for all tournament matches. In the event it is not set to off and the game is accidentally paused, the player responsible for the pause will forfeit 1 stock
• Disqualification Clause: After a match has been called; if a player is 2 minutes late he will receive a warning. At 4 minutes late, he will be given a loss for the first game of the set. After 6 minutes, he will be given a loss of the entire set.

OTHER RULES:
• If time runs out, the winner is determined by stock, then percentage.
• If both stock and percentage are identical, or a game ends with both players being KO'd simultaneously, then a re-match is played.

SET PROCEDURE:
1. Players will Rock-Paper-Scissors for port priority and will stay in those ports for the set
2. Both players choose their characters (as well as their sub-character and costume) for the first game. A double-blind pick may be requested by either player.
3. Players strike stages from the Starter Stage List in a P1-P2-P2-P1 order.
4. The winner of the previous game is allowed to ban 1 stage the opponent can not pick in the next game. (Does not apply during 'Finals' Sets)
5. The loser of the previous game chooses a stage from the Starter or Counterpick Stage List. Neither player may select a stage that they have won on previously in the set without their opponent's permission.(DSR)
6. The winner of the previous game chooses their character.
7. The loser of the previous game chooses their character.
8. Steps 5-7 are repeated as necessary.

Tournament Format:
Two Double Elimination Brackets, Loser from each final in the bracket will play to see who gets into Top 3

Schedule:

Spoiler

Pre-Registration:
http://sxc.agongame.net/sxc_register

Event Page:
https://www.facebook.com/events/571204462992371/

SA Smash Bros. Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/SaSmash/

SA Player Hitlist Power Ranking 2014
http://smashboards.com/threads/melee-state-power-rankings.334883/#post-11785540

Our Stream:
http://www.twitch.tv/kaizmo

Confirmed interstate players:
Redact
Dreadtech
Maskin
Jamwa
Chappos

This wouldn't be possible without EVAC, AVCon and SAFGC, thank you guys so much
By having interstate players come to this event it really helps us be able to run this event annually so we can finally have a replacement for Reloaded

With love, Kaiza & the rest of SA Smash

Post in this thread if you're interested, if you need a place to stay, or any questions regarding the event and we'll get you sorted

 

[Lex__]

Im interested, any Idea of the cost+events or is that TBA?

 

[Kaiza]

Im interested, any Idea of the cost+events or is that TBA?

My understanding is that it'll most likely be $20 venue fee and $5 or $10 to enter in each event but this might change

 

[Nikes]

Get on this everyone, SA smash scene is back! Summer of smash is happening.

Edit: Hughie! I see you lurking

 

[Kaiza]

Updated with ruleset and pot split
Smash 4 ruleset and stagelist TBA

 

[PrettyCoolGuy]

Any idea of the format of events? Pools or that sort of thing

 

[Nikes]

I'd imagine there will be pools and such. The numbers will be big enough for it.

Also Kai you might want to update the OP as Smash Wii U's release date has been brought back a week so it's no longer a launch weekend tournament. Not sure if I'm happy or sad about this

 

[Kaiza]

Any idea of the format of events? Pools or that sort of thing

We will be running a double-elim bracket from the get go for all games
Our aim currently is to get to top 3 on day 1 and then have top 3 played out on the SXC main stage with all the other games instead of splitting the stream between Smash & Traditional Fighters like Shadowloo did
Updated the OP to reflect this

EDIT: Change of tournament format

 

[Kaiza]

Schedule released! Updated the OP.
Pre-registration to come within the week.

 

[Redact]

I should be coming to this. Flying in at 8am on the saturday and going home on the monday

 

[Kaiza]

sweet more people should come with Redact and take our SA money

 

[Gords]

i was thinking of trying to make it to this even though it was a long shot then realized your Smash 4 ruleset has customs banned, which severely hinders my motivation to try and get time of work.
I still might try though for melee/PM but still a giant long shot

 

[Kaiza]

i was thinking of trying to make it to this even though it was a long shot then realized your Smash 4 ruleset has customs banned, which severely hinders my motivation to try and get time of work.
I still might try though for melee/PM but still a giant long shot

It's mostly because of logistics purposes for unlocking them all and the fact we don't know how customs are selected on console yet. Besides that we're on a tight schedule so customising/counter picking moves is only gonna eat away at that.

 

[Redact]

You can bring customs over using your 3ds

 

[Attila_]

As a general rule, a major should be planned well in advance, instead of being rushed to sneakily host smash 4 before anyone else. Hell, Zeal is the week after, and Miles Warehouse a few weeks after that.

You've gotta communicate this stuff with the rest of the community so we can plan things together and actually make events properly hype.

That's why events like SS and BAM are so awesome.

And as an aside, 1 week to make a ruleset, unlock everything, and get enough people with enough setups sounds pretty well impossible.

 

[Gords]

Wow harsh @ Attila_ . Im pretty sure the SAFGC is responsible for selecting this date, heck if it was up to the melbourne smash community alone you guys wouldnt be having the next SS in feb.

It's mostly because of logistics purposes for unlocking them all and the fact we don't know how customs are selected on console yet. Besides that we're on a tight schedule so customising/counter picking moves is only gonna eat away at that.

Understandable, i thought this may be the reason, i was just assumed they would be legal so was a bit surprised when i actually checked the rules.
Although porting customs characters from 3DS should be possible.

 

[Kaiza]

As a general rule, a major should be planned well in advance, instead of being rushed to sneakily host smash 4 before anyone else. Hell, Zeal is the week after, and Miles Warehouse a few weeks after that.

You've gotta communicate this stuff with the rest of the community so we can plan things together and actually make events properly hype.

That's why events like SS and BAM are so awesome.

And as an aside, 1 week to make a ruleset, unlock everything, and get enough people with enough setups sounds pretty well impossible.

I've been in discussion with SAFGC since the start of September, there was a lot that had to be done if we wanted to run smash at SXC, they needed to know just how feasible it would be to run it (numbers, tvs, consoles etc.) and so we had been mentioning it here and there on our stream but we couldn't confirm anything until the official announcement due to the head organiser wanting to get Smash 4 Wii U at the tournament (this was before the release date was changed). I had talked to Tin Man about it before he announced ZEAL, it was just we didn't have confirmation for Smash at SXC so I couldn't announce anything. It was never about trying to sneak in before ZEAL to be the ~first in AUS for smash 4 wii u~ we had this planned from the get go but like I said before, a number of logistical things had to be sorted. We knew due to how late in the game the announcement was that it would severely cripple interstate showing but the plan was to run Smash no matter what.

In regards to setups, we have 10 Wii U's + GC converters + Smash 4 Wii U provided to us by AVcon for the tournament (this was the main issue with the lateness of the announcement)

Obviously a lot more communication could have occurred, but we weren't even sure we going to have it in the first place. We should still get a decent local showing regardless of interstate representation and so we'll most likely get to run it again next year.

 

[Gords]

the SAFGC wanting to run a Smash WiiU tournament on launch weekend is actually a stupid idea, would have actually been better to have the event a week before launch and focus on Smash 3DS, melee, PM, Brawl. It could have then been organized and announced earlier to create hype instead of rushing a new game into competition using consoles with no data on it. The fact that the release date has been moved forward for Smash WiiU is only helpful if they actually play the game and unlock essentials (characters/stages/etc) on each of the 10 consoles, which really would have been impossible having the event on launch weekend.

 

[Kaiza]

@ Gords
AVcon will have all the content unlocked in time for the tournament on all the consoles

 

[Nikes]

The problem with having a 3DS major is obviously the lag factor/instability, and it's harder for the crowd to spectate matches like finals since you can't upscale the 3DS resolution with a capture card without it looking pretty bad for all the viewers, even if it were just stretched to CRT resolution.

Obviously diving right into the Wii U version for a major isn't ideal for already mentioned reasons, but since we didn't even know if Smash was going to be a thing here until recently and it wasn't a Smash event to begin with, nobody really had much control of how this has all turned out like date etc, so this is the best we can do, better than nothing at least. Things will definitely be way more organized in the future and not so last minute needless to say.
Also in regards to unlocking things, most of our guys unlocked practically everything in the first hour or two at our 3DS launch day tournament and the Wii U version has even less to unlock.

 

[Mooseking]

the SAFGC wanting to run a Smash WiiU tournament on launch weekend is actually a stupid idea, would have actually been better to have the event a week before launch and focus on Smash 3DS, melee, PM, Brawl. It could have then been organized and announced earlier to create hype instead of rushing a new game into competition using consoles with no data on it. The fact that the release date has been moved forward for Smash WiiU is only helpful if they actually play the game and unlock essentials (characters/stages/etc) on each of the 10 consoles, which really would have been impossible having the event on launch weekend.

Hows it going gords.

In regards to Smash at SXC, we've been wanting to be able to work with competitive smash in SA for quite some time. However previously the state of Smash in South Australia has never shown the necessary elements that would have been workable for a competitive style major event.

I've previously worked in various capacities over several of the gaming communities in South Australia and have known the state of play for a fair while, and it's seeing the change in the community and their desire for something more that prompted us to open discussions with the right people who understand the road ahead about integration of Smash and the Smash Bros community into ours and seeing how we can collectively work together for something larger.

As for the timing of this event, we've had this locked in since April. Announced it publicly in June after getting the initial confirmations we needed.

The timing was completely planned around other major events in Australia, this included to our knowledge. Shadowloo Showdown, Oz Hadou Nationals, Penny Arcade Expo AU, Supernova Adelaide & also the timing of university exams.

It just so happens, that Smash 4 drops on the weekend before our major event, with Guilty Gear XRD dropping 2 days before our event. We consider ourselves lucky and also know how important this weekend is to help advertise and promote Smash 4 to our local audience and to the wider FGC who are coming down.

We're looking long term and don't want to undermine anyone elses event. This includes ZEAL which was brought to my attention when it went public.

As for it being stupid to run Smash 4 when we should have just focused on 3DS et al, logistically we couldn't do ANY smash without the co operation of AVCon, EVAC & Smash SA. These are 3 different Non Profit groups with their own timelines and goals and negotiating and working with these people is a very long process to iron out all the bookings and details needed. Hence why Smash @ SXC2K14 was announced late.

We know we're not going to get a lot of interstate interest this year because of the timing but we're working towards building something long term that will strengthen the efforts of fighting games both in Adelaide and Australia.

If you guys can't make it this year, we completely understand. If you'd already planned to go to ZEAL over SXC2K14. Go to ZEAL, and if we do a decent enough job and earn the respect of the wider Smash Bros community in AU we'd love to see you in Adelaide next year for our next step.

TLDR

Nothing is taken lightly, we're not out to undermine other events & we want to earn your support for the future. It all starts from this December so feel free to judge us based on the efforts of everyone this year.

If you have any more concerns, field it to Kai or contact me personally on FB or through the SAFGC page.

-Mooseking

 

[Attila_]

For the record, the guys who run SS have been publicly criticized for neglecting our opinions, and may not even run their event anymore.

If discussions were being held in September, this is something that should be communicated. If you want to title your tournament a 'major', then you have to get Australia involved, and work into the national schedule.

Making some one off tourney and calling it a 'major' is pretty offensive in the grand scheme of things.

And if you can't get your information together in time to do the 'major' justice, it's just a big local.

There are extremely few people who would be able to go to this, ZEAL and Miles Warehouse. But a large amount could go to one of them regardless of location. Titling this tourney a major ultimately detracts from the other majors, making them all smaller than intended.

tl;dr

communicate pls

 

[Mooseking]

I understand you're upset. But let me clarify, It's our second year and not a once off.

We have plans already in motion for 2015 and will be talking with all necessary parties in Australia to see next year be fantastic.

Communication was given at the earliest possible time. As I'm not in the business of not announcing intentions, just things that are locked in and are sure things to go ahead.

But if you don't think we're worthy of a title as a "major" then that's your business. But we are, will be. And we're aiming to build the trust from here on out.

 

[Gords]

@ Mooseking
firstly I would like to clarify that in no way am I saying that SXC as a whole is a stupid event, that you are neglecting to announce things before they are confirmed or even that the date is bad. On the contrary, I actually think the date is great and selected with careful consideration and that the event as a whole is definitely worthy of the title Major.
My point is that Smash WiiU shouldn't have been the focus in terms of the smash community.

I understand and support your notion of integrating the FGC with SA Smash, however promoting this event as a Smash Major to the Australian Smash community when it seems your intentions are to integrate with SA Smash and advertise/promote Smash WiiU to your local audience does actually undermine other Major events such as Zeal and Miles Warehouse for reasons mentioned by @ Attila_ . Although I do actually believe that your intentions are long term and involve the wider Australian Smash community.

From what @ Kaiza says it sounds as if you were intent of having Smash WiiU be the a big focus for the Smash aspect of SXC and it was this goal that caused delays. I feel like this was not a brilliant idea and that if you wanted to market this event as a Smash Major as well that the focus should have been on Melee (currently the predominant game played in Australia), Project M (v3.02) and Smash 3DS (the new game that people have had some time with already to prepare for competition). Organizing equipment for these games should be a lot easier (CRTs and consoles from SA Smash, players have their own 3DS) and therefore you could of announced your event earlier and got the hype train rolling. later on when you finalize your WiiU plans you could of then announced that your event would also feature Smash WiiU and have it be a side event, exhibition matches and/or friendly setups available. If you indeed intend to support Smash WiiU in the future the investment would not be a waste and even this should be enough to draw in some more local attendance and promote the game for your local scene.

TLDR
I think that SXC in general is definitely a great event at a good time in which a lot effort has gone into, however if your goal was to reach out to the wider Australian Smash Community then maybe focusing on Smash WiiU was not the best approach.

I do feel 2015 will be a lot better and I look forward to seeing what you guys with SA Smash can do from here on out. I will still be attempting to get time off work for this event.

 

[Attila_]

I understand you're upset. But let me clarify, It's our second year and not a once off.

We have plans already in motion for 2015 and will be talking with all necessary parties in Australia to see next year be fantastic.

Communication was given at the earliest possible time. As I'm not in the business of not announcing intentions, just things that are locked in and are sure things to go ahead.

But if you don't think we're worthy of a title as a "major" then that's your business. But we are, will be. And we're aiming to build the trust from here on out.

Do you understand though? Becasue you seem to have completely missed point.

We have three 'majors' scheduled in five weeks. Does that make any sense to you? It sure as hell doesn't to me.

Each event will be small and detract from the other. Few people will travel because they don't have to, and because no hype has been created.

Instead, plans NEED to be announced. The wider community (and TO base) NEED to know. This way we schedule tournaments around each other, and help PR each other's events. 'Penciling in' or 'Tentatively booking' dates/events is an acceptable way of doing this.

Otherwise you just follow the Shadowloo model of overshadowing another event in favor of your own. gg.

 

[Kaiza]

Just to clarify it was never advertised as a 'smash major' it was always a fighting game major that featured smash. Apologies if that wasn't clear

 

[Redact]

So i like smash and im going, ppl come with me pls

 

[Gords]

having 'Major' in a thread title on smashboards, giving info for flights and accommodation, seeking interstate attendance from the smash community and plugging that its the first Australian Smash WiiU tournament to the Australian Smash Community are all advertisements that indicate that this is to be a Smash Major.

 

[Mooseking]

Let me clarify again.

I have to book events up to a year in advance in Adelaide, I talk with all major TO's around Australia and work with them in trying to schedule something with enough distance between our events to get the general FGC population more open to traveling interstate and supporting one and other again.

Now also, I take into account School Holidays, Uni Exams, Pop Culture EXPO's and other similar events around AUS and in Adelaide.

A lot of time an planning goes into this.

We don't announce tentative dates but relay the period with TO's only because there is a lot that can go wrong when booking and building an event on a scale like this.

Through support with EVAC & AVCon and SA Smash we're able to finally be able to sufficiently cater & build an event with the Smash community.

That's another entire room packed out with close to 30 CRT's and setups covering Melee, PM & Brawl and 10+ copies of a newly released title on sub 2ms 27" monitors.

We're doing what we can from a staff, technical & community level to make sure this year goes well, people enjoy themselves & that you guys can keep us in mind for 2015.

There was no possible way for me to know that I could have run smash without getting an (NPO which elects it's leader in August every year) to support us with their tech to run Smash at such a dense level.

You guys have ZEAL & Myles warehouse and I'm sorry that we're clashing so close to these events.

But as stated before, this was booked well in advance and a lot of hoops had to be jumped through to start integrating smash into a competitive scene.

If you want to believe we're SS, I can tell you we're not. I do everything in my power to make sure timing for these things is best as possible because I can't afford it not to be. SXC is booked in Q4 every year and will be in the future.

This year is a period of transition for the FGC & for Smash as well, next year will have it's own challenges for you guys and I'm hoping you can meet them. What we're offering you guys is the reference that we're here to do a good job this year, earn the respect from the Smash Community & be a destination for you guys to travel next year.

We'll be actively working with Kai & his team over Summer to better provide for Smash throughout next year & we'll be taking feedback from SXC2K14 in order to make 2015 even stronger.

We'll announce our date next year as soon as we can but just for reference it will be this same time period.

RE Smash Major.

Having Smash at our event does make it a proper Smash major, 40+ setups dedicated to Smash. Makes this a Smash Major. Having staff & community members who live for Smash like you guys do co ordinate and run this event with us, Makes this a Smash Major.

We're also an AirDash / Anime Major because we have open support for titles such as Guilty Gear XRD, BlazBlue Chrono Phantasma, Under Night In Birth & Persona 4 Arena.

We're an OG major with support for previous classic competitive fighting games such as Third Strike, CVS2 and ST etc

But this is all moot.

We're a fighting game major. Smash is in our lineup with extensive support & top level planning with the Smash community in SA. There's not much more we can do other than run Smash exclusively and have a Smash Bros only event.

As for how Kai has presented this. It's a logical thing to advertise we're the first event that is running this in AUS. We lucked out on the date and have worked hard to make sure we can run this as effortlessly as possible by making sure the people who drive Smash in our state are in control here.

I think I've adequately explained how Smash has come to be here. If you still have a problem with timing, there's nothing more I can say and I'm sorry.

Again I apologize for clashing with your two other tournaments in ZEAL & Myles warehouse, that was completely out of my hands through how this event came to be.

It is not in my desire to undermine what you guys do on a national level, but to provide an option for future endeavors. As I earlier stated, please. If you're currently planning to go to ZEAL & Myles Warehouse please do so, support them as they have been the primary group of support for you guys for some time.

Take a look at our event through the stream, take a look at the feedback post event and then hopefully we'll have done enough to convince you guys that we're worthy of your support for future events.

But if you can & are making our event from interstate please know that your attendance is very much appreciated and we'll do everything we can to make sure your time in Adelaide is worth it.

If you guys have any other issues, please feel free to discuss it with me and I'll do my best to alleviate your problems.

Otherwise thanks for hearing me out, I genuinely appreciate the efforts you guys have gone to here and want to do my best to be able to work with you all in the future.

-Mooseking

 

[Gords]

I appreciate your efforts to grow the Smash Community in SA, and that most of this was out of your control.

we seem to be going in circles though so I will probably stop here.

the last thing I will say is that a Fighting Game Major ft. Smash and a Smash Major are not necessarily the same thing.
for example.
LanSmash is a Queensland event that runs about 4 times a year and is considered a Major event as it includes many LAN and fighting games that brings together many interstate players for each game at each event. However the local Queensland Smash Community generally has only promoted one LanSmash event per year as a Smash Major, even though over the last few years they have been present at almost every LanSmash

 

[PrettyCoolGuy]

Is that schedule for real at all? 3 hours to get to top 3 in melee?

 

[Doon]

Is that schedule for real at all? 3 hours to get to top 3 in melee?

hmm yer gonna need some more info on this!!

 

[Kaiza]

RE: Schedule
Instead of running two games side by side on split setups, we're going to be running all setups with the current tournament, right now we're looking at having more than 21 CRTs for melee/pm and 10 LCDs for Smash 4 so we can get through games quickly. The 2 hour break between Melee and PM is there to allow for any bleed out that might occur (and it probably will)

Ignore the fact that it says "Pools A & B" we're just going to be doing double elim from the get go

 

[PrettyCoolGuy]

RE: Schedule
Instead of running two games side by side on split setups, we're going to be running all setups with the current tournament, right now we're looking at having more than 21 CRTs for melee/pm and 10 LCDs for Smash 4 so we can get through games quickly. The 2 hour break between Melee and PM is there to allow for any bleed out that might occur (and it probably will)

Ignore the fact that it says "Pools A & B" we're just going to be doing double elim from the get go

If less than 64 it's just going to be a straight bracket?

 

[Kaiza]

If less than 64 it's just going to be a straight bracket?

Slight mix up, we'll be running two brackets of 32 in the event we get =<64 to get our top 4 (and we'll have the losers from each bracket finals will play to determine who advances to top 3 on day 2). In the event we get more than this is currently being negotiated because of equipment necessities.

ALSO PRE-REG IS NOW UP (added to OP as well)
http://sxc.agongame.net/sxc_register

 

[Shakyy]

I will be attending, Someone has to win Smash 4, why not me?

 

[Nikes]

Is that a challenge I hear?:b

 

[Jamage]

Should be a great event. I will be there.

We also have StreetGeek Lan on the Friday night with plenty of Melee & Brawl setups. Other consoles for free play, Internet, food & probably some sort of Smash tournament.
https://www.facebook.com/events/699336976816831/

 

[Nikes]

Idk if we'll be likely to have Wii U setups there but there's always 3DS's for friendlies and I can bring a PM setup as well if needbe. Would be cool if we could have people get in free somehow since it'll only be the Fri night but that's probably not going to happen.

 

[Kaiza]

I think we might be doing EVAC before that as well and I think there's something else happening at ARENA net cafe for the other fighting games so we might get some CRTs there but nothing's set in stone for that one so don't quote me on that.