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To see what would happen. This is not the time to address that though. Think before you bring stuff up
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yes but there's no danger cause we know what we are. It's not fine cause if you actually believed we might be scum you'd wanna take the chance on that result. i dont like how your results are super safe and sold, your random check, ends up dead when all he was was "confirmed " by you, he was barely a presence beyond a pretty solid null town yet he ends up dead. doesn't add upI had no qualms checking the statement, lol. Think about it though: if you're actually masons, then you guys condemn each other as potential scum mates, so it's fine to leave you alone and for me to just check someone else. There's also the fact that people wanted me to check someone and to not check your claim, and it's not like I need edplayers on my *** anymore than they already have been this game.
Anyway, briefly looked over what has been said thus far, and I'm tripping out with regards to the number of clears and potential investigations we have.
Will be addressed later please man come on. Right now let this settle.blegh blegh blegh.
who's scum with bardull if he flipped it ?
-1Dude we have no idea how the flip hiding role works. Maybe it hides every lynch until it dies, maybe it has to pick players, maybe it's 1-shot and just decided to use it on the lynch.
Bardull is NOT ****ing wasting his ability on a dead man. He needs to stop *****footing around using his ability and we need to stop letting him. It ****ed up D1 and he's on course to **** up D2 as well. I have no problems lynching him if he's gonna do this again.
ugghhh why u gotta be like this.Will be addressed later please man come on. Right now let this settle.
You're not analyzing context. Was 100% down with checking your claim, you're just being raketarded.ugghhh why u gotta be like this.
I need to think. Might lynch bardull on my premises which you should comment on, i saw your early bit on bardull and it mirrors mine but do you think bardull takes that sort of gambit to the table as scum especially if mavens already gonzo as scum (i still say he was scum due to what i posted afterward. Also, what do you make of maven's "disappearing" flavor
Yeah, EVERYONE who has a problem with your slot is probably scum looking for a mislynch.Anyone throwing FUD at my slot is probably scum trying to clean up this mess of a game they've created by allowing me to live two days in a row, because it's the only way they're going to win.
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Skimmed cuz on duty but that literally doesnt prove anything since we trust your word on veing able to check the statement in the first placeOutside of Glyph's play being kinda shallow, scum basically HAS to try and mislynch me at this point. Anyone throwing FUD at my slot is probably scum trying to clean up this mess of a game they've created by allowing me to live two days in a row, because it's the only way they're going to win.
We lynch Glyph. If Glyph flips Town, we see what happens at Night, then we can talk about lynching me once I've confirmed my lie detector is the real deal and if people still think I'm a problem (this would be really dumb though and if we lose because of it and you will hear no end of it from me). I trust Orbo, Rake, and Gheb to handle making the statement that I lie detect.
DO NOT FALL FOR THE FUD. Look over my play if you have to. Quit being nerds.
Should definitely read. Rake is being raketarded because he thinks I was trying to avoid confirming that you guys were masons. Zzzz.Skimmed cuz on duty but that literally doesnt prove anything since we trust your word on veing able to check the statement in the first place
Here's my main qualm with Glyph's play: there's no rational backing behind why we should consider lynching me outside of 'well scum can just make up results from his position." This reads as either groundless paranoia, or scum trying desperately to deal with the problem at hand. There's no clear-cut backing, and it's almost entirely random considering he had me labeled Town before my claim. Fact: there isn't a way for Cop to confirm results in any game unless someone has an ability that can verify that his results are legit.Ok lets get this hashed out real quick
I'm Secret Squirrel, Town Gadget Holder. I'm responsible for Gheb getting his gun. His command to fire the shot will be kill: x. I'm also about to give him another power later toDay. Look forward to that one, Gheb!
Here's the gameplan here. Bardull's claim is (unfortunately) very unlikely to be true. Unless scum is just like absolutely ******** and think letting him pick up clears/guilties is ok. Even if they banked on us doing that, its hardly going to cripple town we'll just actually have to play at that point and I think there's enough smart people left alive to make it happen there.
SO, follow with me if you would as we walk down the path of what happens after we lynch Bardull. If he's guilty, NICE we hit scum and can reassess from there. I'm going to hold off on delving into that further until we actually see his flip, but do have some ideas. If he's actually town, then equally good! We've got a cleared Gheb, who I've given a gun, and will continue to pump so full of buffs that he'll be nigh unstoppable (I really think I was supposed to give these to a bunch of people but thats not going to happen). This is why I wanted him checked earlier since I was expecting Bardull to die during the night (WHOOPS).
Uh what else. Oh, I'd like to put forth a motion to bar Gheb from being on today's lynch at all in the off chance his hammer was responsible for the jan yesterday.
Ok so there's that. Now back to your regularly scheduled namecalling/mafia game
Blatant disregard for Occam's razor, which is that Sold was killed because I cleared him and that Scum figured I was going to be protected. He also has blatant disregard for the subjectivity involved in deciding who I should have picked to investigate. I felt Sold was a good choice. Glyph was spazzing out about how Gheb was the better choice, but he can't actually objectively explain why he feels Gheb is the better choice...because he isn't. Gheb is not objectively better. I had no reason to check Gheb at the time as I was comfortable with him, and I don't really understand his obsession with Gheb to be frank. Sold on the other hand is harder for me to read because I literally never play with him. I haven't actually ever 'been bodied' by Sold, and I'm not nearly primitive enough to hold grudges in this game when I have better things to do. What, by Jove, is the explanation for how me choosing to pick Sold to investigate somehow incriminates me of being scum?Ok THAT I can work with. Looking at how absolutely frazzled Bardull was immediately on D1 I'd say its much more likely a 'holy **** I can't believe I'm already pegged' reaction than I 'guys why are you being so mean to me I'm town '. At that point I'd say he'd absolutely try a gambit of the sorts to eek out a little extra living time, which was successful but only delayed the inevitable. Literally the only reasons mafia would leave him alive and opt for Sold instead would be:
-some kind of deep seated grudge against Sold (bodied by him in the past maybe???)
-a massive gaff, like when Soup used his execution in blazblue mafia D1 and then claimed it afterwards (no way any combination of players on this list would make that mistake)
-Bardull is scum
-some other reasons I can't think of, but are massively unlikely (I'm including this since I used 'literally the only reasons' before so there's that)
Maven's disappearance should be pretty much discounted for now imo since we have no means of verifying anything about it. Could have been by someone on the lynch. Could have been a day ability. Could be one shot, could be every day. Way too many variables in play to make any semblance of a conclusion that holds any water.