Ryker Mafia 3 Day 4 Deadline 8/21 11:59

[Inglorious Retards]

Gheb, what do you think of Raziek?

Liking his post on Joey. Lines up with what I was thinking about the whole Orbo push.

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Rake should be able to replace for bardull raz.

That'll make people want to lynch the slot even more ;P

 

[Kantrip]

A soup/bardull/rake slot sounds like the most lynchable slot possible.

 

[#HBC | J]

Vote: Soup's Non-existant Replacement Slot of Angsty Agony

There is not a player in this slot, the play he has had is null but it's horrendous and I have no real reads at the current time. I just want this slot to burn and I don't think any player should have to come in and cover for Soup's actions yet again.

I have my own personal thoughts for after the game, but yeah this game is stagnating so let's move move move it into gear somewhere somehow. I want this slot gone so I don't have to deal with it. If Soup's slot flips scum, all the merrier. Otherwise until someone either A.) Shows they are scummier to me and I wish to pursue them or B.) Someone provides a detailed case on who should go toDay instead.

*muzzles self*

I have so much to say but it's not relevant to the game nor finding scum so meh. Someone, talk to me, get me looking at someone to distract me from seeing red.

 

[Kantrip]

Hi J, I'm here to talk to!

 

[Kantrip]

You can look at Joey if you need someone to sniff around at. He smells funny from where I'm sitting.

 

[#HBC | J]

Talk to me about a player. Your choice. I need someone to look at because tbh I am bored of reading mafia and want something now.

 

[Kantrip]

I can honestly say I don't have much to say about any player in particular.

soup reads as null to me off of what he did and I'd rather see a replacement than just off the slot. It's at the same place for me as all the other slots getting replaced.

I think D1 may need to end in a policy lynch, but I don't think soup is the best candidate.

 

[#HBC | J]

W.r.t. Joey, meh. Nothing strikes me as scummy especially because my former partner seemed to have thought Orbo had something to dig into and he told me that he disliked Orbo's need to paint Soup as scummy for something null that he literally does every game. However, reading what you said gave me this little quote I found that made me want to ask a question:

if were gonna QL im down for soup/pb&j.

@Raziek i must disagree that most of it is nullsoup, his over zealous replacing out may be but aside from that dood's scummy. plus id rather lynch em with the pace of the game since he has the most connections (including one important one that i don't wanna out till his flip arises).

The bolded I do not like because what about his play is scummy? I can understand the reasoning for him having the most connections and I feel that as well. So @ Unassuming Local Guys could you explain what exactly about Soup's play him scummy in your eyes?

 

[#HBC | J]

@ Kantrip Then who is a better candidate for a PL if you feel Soup's slot isn't? I will not take the response of Ryu/BW Hydra because I am tired of people just PL'ing both sides of that hydra just to PL them. Soup actually has posts that garner connections. Plus I am annoyed at the sheer fact he is ruining yet another game with his shtick he pulls and sticking any player with his actions with no real consequences.

 

[Kantrip]

soup outed his PR, got upset, spewed some AtE, and then replaced out.

Almost all of that is completely null for him. With Rake replacing in it will be like a totally fresh slot with nothing to take into account from its previous owner except the fact that his PR is outed.

Similarly, Alakaslam is getting replaced by Mac most likely, so that should be allowed to happen and the slot doesn't require a PL.

1. Raziek - will not lynch D1
2. JDietz43 - will not lynch D1
3. Picture Perfect (J/WashedLaundry) - will not lynch D1
4. Unassuming Local Guys (Fandangox/Gorf) - will not lynch D1
5. PB&J Sandwich (BadWolf28738/Red Ryu) - could lynch D1
6. JeXs - could lynch D1
7. Joey - could lynch D1
8. Potassium
9. Alakaslam - let replacement come in
10. soup - let replacement come in
11. Scary - could lynch D1
12. Orboknown - will not lynch D1
13. Gheb_01 - will not lynch D1

It is pretty apparent that this game is friggin inactive. I would lynch PB&J, JeXs, Joey, or Scary without feeling too bad about it. I could be convinced to extend my lynch pool to other players if anything substantial came out, but right now we've got a whole lotta nothing.

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

So Badwolf got comp issues still? I'll see what I can do from a phone.

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

Joey why is your vote on Soup
BadRuy why is your vote on Soup
Raz why are you going to be a nonfactor thread dodger like you always are.
Gheb chose IR as his hydra to post on obvscum IR is always scum
Kantplay why are you voting Soup lrn2play

jegus it's like this thread needs massive amounts of education or something get with it all of you

@#HBC | Gorf where u at

I don't know, Badwolf sent me a thought on Soup exploding with a pinch of a double voter could be scum. Off gut I said no but it would be better to see how people react to him instead.

 

[Orboknown]

What parts arent null for him and hoe in your opinion kanttip?​

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

I'm a sheep and my ambition is to be the best sheep.

I'm ok with wanting to be an Indian over a chef, but I would still request your own thoughts.

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

What parts arent null for him and hoe in your opinion kanttip?​

Soup exploding is null, he'll do it as either alignment. I'm more interested in his r

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

His reads and the people calling him town or scum*

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

Last time I played with scumSoup, it was Luigi's Mansion mafia where he was mafia. He started the game trying to do the exact same thing. It's somewhat of a red flag for me seeing him desperately trying to get the game started albeit I don't remember what my logic was for the action itself being scummy.

Correct me if I am wrong but arm chair critic was more telling.

What about him doing it here is, "must focus"

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

I can't say I hate his Orbo vote though, I've been noticing the same as him. Did you put your Bus Driver hat on, Soup?

They are connected?

 

[Orboknown]

I can honestly say I don't have much to say about any player in particular.

soup reads as null to me off of what he did and I'd rather see a replacement than just off the slot. It's at the same place for me as all the other slots getting replaced.

I think D1 may need to end in a policy lynch, but I don't think soup is the best candidate.

Who wiuld be the best candidate?

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

I'm bothered by PPs push on Soup, not Dietz though.

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

I've skimmed the cluster****. I am shaking my head right now. I like how PP handled the whole situation though, especially WRT the AtE.

I'll be around to contribute more tomorrow after work.

Rake is the next replacement on the list, yeah? Here's hoping he doesn't put his foot in his mouth immediately, haha.

What about PP pre-Soup AtE?

 

[Orboknown]

I know that. I want to see what kantrip thought might be telling

Soup exploding is null, he'll do it as either alignment. I'm more interested in his r

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

This vote was pretty gross.

I like Orbo's 122.

What is with these gross Joey votes?

I really can't agree with this.

It's one thing to say Soup was reacting emotionally, which he always does. But it's NOT WRONG to say that he thinks Soup was lying about why he used his ability. The game HADN'T stalled. It had been like 3 hours at that point.

@ #HBC | Ryker : Do we have a replacement for Soup/Bardull? Unless I'm misreading, Bardull can't replace in. We also need one for Alakaslam IIRC?

Right now, I don't like Joey's play. I disliked how Soup handled that whole situation, but MOST of it is nullSoup stuff.

But Joey's votes have been grimy and wagon-hoppy.

vote: #HBC | Joey

This stuff with Joey is so wrong.

The only reason I found semi-legit was Dietz, his early read.

Getting on Soup for trying too hard or trying to get stuff started is null, what did he do that people were ragging on him for that is bull.

Joey is right there, people are attaching things they know are null as reasons. Joey is entirely right there, made worse when it looks like people are trying to tack on to lynch for this.

Joey is right here, Orbo/PP give that impression even more so when they blatantly admit this.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

@ Inglorious Retards
What is triggering you about teh sandwich, aside from the fact that it isn't a cheesesteak?

@ #HBC | J
Would the soup slot fall to PL if nothing really improves this D1? Tell me what you think about Orbo?

The thought of Rake replacing into that slot with the ability to double vote just seems entertaining for some reason.

 

[#HBC | J]

@ #HBC | Scary : Yes, Soup falls in PL category as a player in general. Regarding Orbo, I have no strong opinion on that slot currently. I need him to actually do more because I feel confident in being able to read Orbo so I just need him to stick his foot somewhere tangible.

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

Gheb, what do you think of Raziek?

Gorf, does soup's role play into your desire to lynch him at all?

Badwolf, biggest scumread? How similar are your reads to Red Ruy's?

Red Ruy, can you list your three strongest reads (town or scum)?

Joey, what do you think of what Raziek said about your votes?

Joey slot town. Play and meta is townJoey. I've only been wrong once due to not knowing of two scum teams existing.

J slot scum. Laundry looks the worst from his posts and J pretty much offering Soup as a lynch then condemning Gorf slot despite offering null play to lynch soup.

Dietz slot town, I'm not as confident in this once compared to the others but he's the main one I liked actually pushing Soup.

Vote: J

I'll vote others outside of Joey and Dietz to avoid a No lynch.

 

[Unassuming Local Guys]

You're applying one thing to his play in every game when each game is different, regardless of how he actually plays. He has gotten this way in at least the past three games I've been with him in. He's always attacked at the beginning of the game, he gets pissed off, and that's pretty much that.

The fact that you're attaching onto that and how aggravated he's gotten at the way the game is stalled is kind of disgusting tbh, regardless of if it's a weekend or not I don't see how you have reasons to think that Soup is lying. I wouldn't be bothered if you were trying to pressure the slot or get info, but the slot has replaced out and you're still sitting your vote on him, which makes me believe you think he's scum. It's disgusting.

You are right, each game is different, but you are crazy if you think that how a player plays doesn't matter, player HAVE scumtells, whether you think the scumtell is universal or on the player depends on the context.

Soup might always get attacked and react emotionally, but aside from his AtE no one had a problem with that this game, our problem with him is his outing of hi power role just to get the game going cause he felt "bothered" about inactivity when the game was barely a few hour in (as Dietz pointed out) and he claiming that he was trying to put pressure on JeXs and completely backing off after JeXs gave a single reply.

So yes my problem with Soup's slot is his play.

 

[Unassuming Local Guys]

J slot scum. Laundry looks the worst from his posts.

Can you elaborate on this please?

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

Can you elaborate on this please?

See how Soup handled Jex is legit to dislike him.

At a point, it less became trying to press and read him and more about pushing.

When Laundry referenced the other game, Luigi's, he didn't give context or much to base anything on.

"He tried to jump start the game"

Ok but what about that is scummy, that sounds quite the opposite. Now him doing it to posture and play armchair critic, that was what was scummy about his play in that game.

Here? At worst I see him trying to jump start the game, his read does matter but fir how J Laundry looked at his play here in other areas.

They have constantly tried to put what they admit is null play as lynchable, but then J takes issue with your slot for looking at SoupScum as scummy.

This is a clear 180 from before and not really making sense with what J has been saying With what he is asking.

 

[Kantrip]

I actually kind of want J dead.

 

[Orboknown]

Why?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

Vote Joey

Deadline's tomorrow and he has announced V/LA status for the next three years. Let's lynch him and see what the slots have to say toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

I actually kind of want J dead.

Why?

 

[Orboknown]

Vote: joey

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

I actually kind of want J dead.

I second Orbo on this.

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

Vote Joey

Deadline's tomorrow and he has announced V/LA status for the next three years. Let's lynch him and see what the slots have to say toMorrow.

Why him over Soup who has tons of connections for inactive/replaced out?

I'd rather lynch Soup for info if I comes to that.

Vote: Soup

 

[Kantrip]

k guys I'm reading through again and I'm not lynching soup

Soup has gone all-in.

For the remainder of the day, his vote counts for two votes. These two votes cannot be split up. He cannot use this ability the following Day Phase.

First off, we have mod-confirmation that the ability is not usable on consecutive Days, which basically confirms it works as soup described.

It's pretty clear that soup got a double voter role and wanted to emulate a marshy-esque style of play. He went literally /all-in from the start and he described what he was trying to do as such as well. His actions and his words line up, he instantly outed his role and was willing to explain it, he was trying to question JeXs and really get the game going, and he even shows a progression of thought process while doing this: "I thought JeXs was newb scum at first but after questioning I feel better."

Sure it's shallow, but so is trying to lynch him because he pulled a soup and now the slot is unoccupied. His actions should be viewed as null, and I choose to see some towniness in there, despite the obviously catastrophic (and typical) result.

Let the replacement come in, the slot is likely town and it is a pretty powerful role.

 

[Kantrip]

Vote: Joey

I think this is as good as any, I don't want to deal with the infinite V/LA's that are already coming out of this slot. Also the soup and PP votes served largely no purpose and the lack of contribution to the game's progress in the limited time that he actually was in thread makes me want to see Joey hang.

"Well of course, the game just started, its extremely normal for it to nothing be happened yet. Did you REALLY felt bothered by it?"

Oh goodness.

Vote: Unassuming Local Guys

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Oh and this vote too, it's bad. The question was actually pretty valid, the biggest flaw with soup was that he claimed that he outed his power because nothing was happening as one of the first posts in the game.

 

[Dooms]

Am I already replaced?

Kantrip... The fact that you're jumping on me for an RVS vote and trying to add that on for extra reasoning is disgusting. Ask Local Guys about my vote and realize how stupid you're being for adding that reasoning in there. If you're going to be a bandwagon vote, then just be a bandwagon vote. Don't add **** reasoning just because you can.

Seek replacement

Band2stressful. (Plus I honestly forgot I was on the list to play in this game or else I would have outed before it started).