Ryker Mafia 3 Day 4 Deadline 8/21 11:59

[Jdietz43]

Dose ninjas tho

 

[Jdietz43]

If we can get more out of Orbo and Jex then I think I'll be satisfied with toDay

Vote: Orboknown

@ Orboknown :

How do you feel about Scary's recent posts? What do you like, what do you not like?
Do you believe his claim, for the record?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

@ Jdietz43
What's your opinion of me being blocked if we go back to Joey's claim that RB was supposed to be town?

Does it negate that claim or do you think it's a townie who just thinks I was scum through the night?

 

[Jdietz43]

@ Jdietz43
What's your opinion of me being blocked if we go back to Joey's claim that RB was supposed to be town?

Does it negate that claim or do you think it's a townie who just thinks I was scum through the night?

Well considering you quickhammered and claimed a Miller variant of a PR, a town roleblocker would be crazy not to block you imo.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Fair enough.

 

[JeXs]

Well considering you quickhammered and claimed a Miller variant of a PR, a town roleblocker would be crazy not to block you imo.

You weren't blocked.

We can lynch Scary now.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

No.

Reads plz?

 

[Jdietz43]

Oh.

OH.

No further questions for Scary...

 

[Jdietz43]

I'mma sleep on this. A confirm/deny would be great if that was meant the way it probably was.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

too much scum in this game

 

[Orboknown]

...scary, how can you track yourself to raz when you tracked raz?
You show you arent a watcher by virtue of you seeing gheb go nowhere but this is a contradictory result.

 

[Orboknown]

Shower then mafia before school.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

...scary, how can you track yourself to raz when you tracked raz?
You show you arent a watcher by virtue of you seeing gheb go nowhere but this is a contradictory result.

Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

 

[Orboknown]

Was a town Power role.

**** you Rake.

**** the rest of you.

Lynch scary you ****ing tarts

Was neighbours with Raz too

Okay so this is what tipped me off yesterday in addition to the nk flip
Ryker imo built redundant roles into the game in order to balance out mass claiming etc. I started the game as neighbors with gorf. Kantrip claimed neighbor in this, and nabe flipped neighborizer. Note that kantrip and gorf did not flip as neighbors, just as town voteblocker etc.
Would like to know if raz started the game as neighbors.
This also means that upon a scary flip we should not use it to incriminate or clear mac based upon the millar claim.
Actual post related stuff now.

 

[Orboknown]

As town, I can understand that sentiment. My problem is that you were first and took the initiative, even if it's that simple question. It deviates from what you've done all game so it just stood out to me.

Is that scummy though?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'mma sleep on this. A confirm/deny would be great if that was meant the way it probably was.

I mean what he claimed to get didnt sound like a no result to me. Personally think Marshy was right and scary's scumminess has shone thorugh NA's

 

[Orboknown]

@ Orboknown :

How do you feel about Scary's recent posts? What do you like, what do you not like?
Do you believe his claim, for the record?

Scrambly. I don't know if that's scummy, because he's not taking the time to weigh things out I feel like he would take of scum to reason thi ngs out to himself. I don't quite buy the claim, but I'm hesistant to straight up throw it out due to the stuff I laid out above
I like your points at him though.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Orbo:

A little bit. What I'm trying to make sense of is that there has been a full commitment to this sheep play all the way to D4 now. Even though his question preceded yours by one minute, it stood out because he hadn't taken the lead in any venture in this game so far. Not one. Someone would have already spoken before he chimes in. Even now, @ JeXs hasn't necessarily responded to a request of mine for a read list. Hell, it could be just a basic list but I want to see something out of him that hasn't been preceded by something from someone else.

Is kinda what he gave me

 

[Orboknown]

I mean what he claimed to get didnt sound like a no result to me. Personally think Marshy was right and scary's scumminess has shone thorugh NA's

This. His results are what's bugging me moreso than his posts

 

[Orboknown]

Orbo:

Is kinda what he gave me

Yeah I noticed that after I read.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'm def bugged by his posts, he keeps throwing out the threat of mylo on his lynch and it reminds me of how i played as a newer scum player where i railed at the injustice of my lynch and kept throwing out stuff like : when im dead and flip town. To scare tactic people, I've seen other players do this too although no individual instances are coming to mind but i know it happens and i really dont like how he keeps adding that in.

 

[Orboknown]

He hasn't done that before though to my knowledge. Like, I can see it moreso from lategame townscary because we've lynched scumscary lategame before and he didnt think along those lines.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
The major difference is that it isn't just a novel concept right now. Not a scare tactic either. Kill me, I will flip town. That is a promise and a reality.

@ Orboknown
What do I have to gain by pandering on about my results if my result is that somehow I tracked myself back to Raz? What kind of nonsensical, made up garbage would that be if I were scum? That's my result, and it didn't even make sense to me. I even tried to ask the mod in my conversation "what does this mean?" and I've gotten no response, so my inference of this is "oh boy, something happened to my track and thanks to how bad I was the day before, I'm setup to die with my lack of result". With Ruy/wolf chiming in, "oh hey, you weren't blocked" it only raises more questions on what happened to my track. If I had gotten "Raz traveled nowhere" then cool beans, but it wasn't. I got blocked or something magical happened to my action.

 

[JeXs]

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
The major difference is that it isn't just a novel concept right now. Not a scare tactic either. Kill me, I will flip town. That is a promise and a reality.

@ Orboknown
What do I have to gain by pandering on about my results if my result is that somehow I tracked myself back to Raz? What kind of nonsensical, made up garbage would that be if I were scum? That's my result, and it didn't even make sense to me. I even tried to ask the mod in my conversation "what does this mean?" and I've gotten no response, so my inference of this is "oh boy, something happened to my track and thanks to how bad I was the day before, I'm setup to die with my lack of result". With Ruy/wolf chiming in, "oh hey, you weren't blocked" it only raises more questions on what happened to my track. If I had gotten "Raz traveled nowhere" then cool beans, but it wasn't. I got blocked or something magical happened to my action.

I'm thinking you messed up your claim. A tracker claiming to have tracked himself to his supposed target is weird as **** and makes no sense. You came into the Day claiming you were roleblocked BUT you still got a result even if it was complete horse ****. That alone is proof that you weren't roleblocked. Tell me, why did you think you were roleblocked? There's no way you would have gotten any result if you were roleblocked.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

What do you think about Mac, wrt to the idea that I got blocked? I ask just because this was the scenario that ran through my head after my claim. If Roleblocker is supposed to be town, what reason would there be for me to get blocked?

so ive been skimming hardbody and i gotta reread but

didn't you say you got a result and it was that you visited yourself? wouldn't it be more likely that you got bus driven / redirected than roleblocked if you actually got a result? has noone mentioned this yet?

 

[JeXs]

so ive been skimming hardbody and i gotta reread but

didn't you say you got a result and it was that you visited yourself? wouldn't it be more likely that you got bus driven / redirected than roleblocked if you actually got a result? has noone mentioned this yet?

See my post that's above yours, I did think of a bus driver/redirected action BUT if he that was the case it'd be an infinite loop of scary visits scary wouldn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong(probably am).

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@MOD request vote count

plz no quick lynch on scary kantrip style

 

[JeXs]

He's safe for now(L-2 iirc).

 

[#HBC | Scary]

He hasn't done that before though to my knowledge. Like, I can see it moreso from lategame townscary because we've lynched scumscary lategame before and he didnt think along those lines.

Time out, which game did I even make it late game as scum and got lynched?

Fire & Lighting 2 = was scum & won
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance = lynched D2
Monster = lynched D1

That's it. Those are all the times I've rolled scum. Aside from fluky first win, I've been bopped the last two games. You're making up something that doesn't exist unless you view D2 as late game.

@ JeXs
Messed up nothing. That's my role. Given you my results word for word. Last night stated "scary visited raz". I still don't know what that means since the wording of my other result was "Gheb traveled nowhere". I hoped it would be more clear if I got blocked instead of this ambiguous *** answer.

@ #HBC | Mac
If you count "something magical happened to my action" as a mention then I recently did.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Also @ Orboknown if I'm not mistaken, the only one of those games you were in was in monster as a hydra with rake.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Scary your read on mac has been changing since early game. Why is and was he only now a concern when your two slots have similar claims. It seems off that it was only yesterday your talking about suddenly offing mac when that discussion could have already happened when Joey claimed. Really seems like grasping at straws

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Rake, I'm not sure what to make of Mac and the problem for me lies in the claim from Joey. That is my first and foremost issue. I personally can believe two millers in one setup, I can. My problem goes into what Joey claimed with his info and what has happened to my track. Like you said earlier toDay, I wouldn't blame the town RB if he blocked me, my hammer yesterDay was super bad and I blame myself for not counting to that point but I keep coming back to the scenario of what if his claim is no good? His play has been good the whole game but I don't like it much toDay since it's been him complaining about "so much scum" and what not.

Since the claim itself I've been leery of the slot since I am a miller tracker and I've flipping over again is trying to settle this WIFOM that's going on in my head.

You still have a solid town read on the slot right?

@ ~ Gheb ~
Can you chime in on Mac and try to make sense of the issue I am having if possible? Perhaps if I can see things from another perspective it can help me out some.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

scary, you got a result -- you didn't get roleblocked. roleblocker is town

 

[#HBC | Mac]

even as scum i wouldn't just claim some random **** that wasn't true, that's a clue that you should be lookin elsewhere

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

More telling is no one is saying they did lol

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Ok, so then help me figure out what happened to my result. Why did it get flipped on its head?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Haven't read up on recent posts yet but it looks like Scary was hit by a bus driver. Which would most likely be a scum role if we assume Joey's claim that there's a town roleblocker to be true. That'd actually make Scary a town tracker, which makes me look at Dietz even more.

Vote dietz

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Macman, Gheb, Scary, Rake = not scum, that much seems almost certain to me now.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

agreed about dietz

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i think he should be the play today