Ryker Mafia 3 Day 4 Deadline 8/21 11:59

[#HBC | Nabe]

go town go

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Got blocked. Pretty sure, ambiguous answer like "Scary visits Raz" is an indicator of blocked.

@ JeXs
Welcome to D4, could I have a reads list from you? I want to know where your head is your game has been spent playing the sheep. Also, since you've been playing the sheep all game, why were you the first to ask about my results?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
What do you think about Mac, wrt to the idea that I got blocked? I ask just because this was the scenario that ran through my head after my claim. If Roleblocker is supposed to be town, what reason would there be for me to get blocked?

I understand that my play gives plenty of reason for me to get lynched but that will force us into MyLo tomorrow. For the love of town, do not lynch me or be sad when I flip town as well.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Wait, did you not receive any result, and you tracked Raz ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

If you did track Raz, why ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Like ,Dietz makes so much more sense, he was the opposite end of you two and iirc weren't you voting him before / scum reading him ?

 

[JeXs]

Got blocked. Pretty sure, ambiguous answer like "Scary visits Raz" is an indicator of blocked.

@ JeXs
Welcome to D4, could I have a reads list from you? I want to know where your head is your game has been spent playing the sheep. Also, since you've been playing the sheep all game, why were you the first to ask about my results?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
What do you think about Mac, wrt to the idea that I got blocked? I ask just because this was the scenario that ran through my head after my claim. If Roleblocker is supposed to be town, what reason would there be for me to get blocked?

I understand that my play gives plenty of reason for me to get lynched but that will force us into MyLo tomorrow. For the love of town, do not lynch me or be sad when I flip town as well.

What's wrong with being the first to ask?

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

@Raziek what did you and Kantrip talk about? What is your stance on Scary/Orbo/Gheb?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake I'm with scary being dead today, hammer was completely disgusting. I want his action then I'm 99% sure we just off him.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

@Raziek what did you and Kantrip talk about? What is your stance on Scary/Orbo/Gheb?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake I'm with scary being dead today, hammer was completely disgusting. I want his action then I'm 99% sure we just off him.

See: His recent post

 

[PB&J Sandwich]

Got blocked. Pretty sure, ambiguous answer like "Scary visits Raz" is an indicator of blocked.

@ JeXs
Welcome to D4, could I have a reads list from you? I want to know where your head is your game has been spent playing the sheep. Also, since you've been playing the sheep all game, why were you the first to ask about my results?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
What do you think about Mac, wrt to the idea that I got blocked? I ask just because this was the scenario that ran through my head after my claim. If Roleblocker is supposed to be town, what reason would there be for me to get blocked?

I understand that my play gives plenty of reason for me to get lynched but that will force us into MyLo tomorrow. For the love of town, do not lynch me or be sad when I flip town as well.

You weren't blocked.

We can lynch Scary now.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

You weren't blocked.

We can lynch Scary now.

If I wasn't blocked, then what the hell kinda answer is "Scary visits Raz"? Tell me so I can properly interpret this!

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
Essentially man. Unless I'm missing something, that was my result, word for word. As far as the why I chose Raz, he was the one out of marshy/nabe's pool that has been most quiet. All things considered though, since Kantrip flipped as he said, wouldn't that mean that Raz would be ok if he actually is neighbors with Kantrip.

@ JeXs
It's weird because you've been speaking mostly based off the play of others. With you being first to post, I got the vibe that there could've been a chance that this was an outcome you may have been expecting. Forgive me if I'm wrong, getting all my thoughts out before lose them.

 

[JeXs]

Why would I as town not want to know a claimed tracker's result?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

As town, I can understand that sentiment. My problem is that you were first and took the initiative, even if it's that simple question. It deviates from what you've done all game so it just stood out to me.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Why Raz though

 

[Jdietz43]

K..... I messed up.

In the meantime, do you have a suggestion on who should be tracked tonight? @ #HBC | Mac , @No Hetero, @Gheb_01, @ Shun Goku Satsu Rake ?

If there is still suspicion on Orbo, I'll look into him. Otherwise I was thinking of tracking mac. It would be good to get his claim confirmed with him not going anywhere during the night if he's indeed just an informed miller.

If anyone has any suggestions, give me to me. I'm all ears. I'm sure I can't mess up a track suggestion at this point.

So, what happened to all of these suggestions for yourself you were spouting yesterday?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Generally leery of him. Minimal content and near total lack of presence in the game.

The other choices:
JeXs = sheep
Orbo = he's been receiving pressure but has been producing some content.
jD = really was the only other viable choice.

Speaking of @ Jdietz43
Did you not see the posts after that post? Also, the reason that each of them are tagged was because I was literally asking them for suggestions on who I should track while giving out my own ideas. Are you literally only coming in when you see that I am already a sinking ship in the eyes of town?

 

[Jdietz43]

Would it be ok to say that if I live toDay, survive the night and somehow get blocked, we bury Mac?

Why the ****

 

[Jdietz43]

Generally leery of him. Minimal content and near total lack of presence in the game.

The other choices:
JeXs = sheep
Orbo = he's been receiving pressure but has been producing some content.
jD = really was the only other viable choice.

Speaking of @ Jdietz43
Did you not see the posts after that post? Also, the reason that each of them are tagged was because I was literally asking them for suggestions on who I should track while giving out my own ideas. Are you literally only coming in when you see that I am already a sinking ship in the eyes of town?

That's great, but you took none of them, and they were all totally reasonable after saying you'd let town guide your track.

And no, I already wanted you dead before I went V/LA.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

If I wasn't blocked, then what the hell kinda answer is "Scary visits Raz"? Tell me so I can properly interpret this!

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
Essentially man. Unless I'm missing something, that was my result, word for word. As far as the why I chose Raz, he was the one out of marshy/nabe's pool that has been most quiet. All things considered though, since Kantrip flipped as he said, wouldn't that mean that Raz would be ok if he actually is neighbors with Kantrip.

@ JeXs
It's weird because you've been speaking mostly based off the play of others. With you being first to post, I got the vibe that there could've been a chance that this was an outcome you may have been expecting. Forgive me if I'm wrong, getting all my thoughts out before lose them.

The fake kind of result
:arcanine:

Why would that make raz okay, neighbors arent alignment confirmed to each other.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

or rather, they aren't confirmed to each other and by no means are both town by virtue of being neighbours, thats masons that have a qt and ar eboth town.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

*and are confirmed to one another

 

[JeXs]

If I wasn't blocked, then what the hell kinda answer is "Scary visits Raz"? Tell me so I can properly interpret this!

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
Essentially man. Unless I'm missing something, that was my result, word for word. As far as the why I chose Raz, he was the one out of marshy/nabe's pool that has been most quiet. All things considered though, since Kantrip flipped as he said, wouldn't that mean that Raz would be ok if he actually is neighbors with Kantrip.

@ JeXs
It's weird because you've been speaking mostly based off the play of others. With you being first to post, I got the vibe that there could've been a chance that this was an outcome you may have been expecting. Forgive me if I'm wrong, getting all my thoughts out before lose them.

If you thought Raz would be ok why track him? You're not making sense to me.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

@ JeXs
It's weird because you've been speaking mostly based off the play of others. With you being first to post, I got the vibe that there could've been a chance that this was an outcome you may have been expecting. Forgive me if I'm wrong, getting all my thoughts out before lose them.

Why was it weird he demand him but not weird gheb voted you first from your pov ?

Why was me threatening you essentially any less weird

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

If you thought Raz would be ok why track him? You're not making sense to me.

he meant in hindsight going back i think wrt raz

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Wait wait wait wait.

Scary, why was MArshy in your pool of trackables ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

K..... I messed up.

In the meantime, do you have a suggestion on who should be tracked tonight? @ #HBC | Mac , @No Hetero, @Gheb_01, @ Shun Goku Satsu Rake ?

If there is still suspicion on Orbo, I'll look into him. Otherwise I was thinking of tracking mac. It would be good to get his claim confirmed with him not going anywhere during the night if he's indeed just an informed miller.

If anyone has any suggestions, give me to me. I'm all ears. I'm sure I can't mess up a track suggestion at this point.

this wouldnt prove his claim though necessarily, just that he didnt commit the kill

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

The fact im entertaining a claim where the tracker is claiming to have gotten a "scary visits Raz " result is flabbergasting even to myself

 

[#HBC | Scary]

That's great, but you took none of them, and they were all totally reasonable after saying you'd let town guide your track.

And no, I already wanted you dead before I went V/LA.

What do you mean I took none of them?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
That's why I'm thinking aloud. It's helping me weigh every possibility. Marshy was NOT in my pool of trackable people. GOOD LORD WHERE DOD THAT COME FROM? In the post you just quoted, each of the people tagged was me literally asking who I should track. Marshy was the only one who got back with a pool of players so those were my choices.

You threatening me is normal. JeXs was weird because of how he's played the whole game up until asking. I could easily be wrong but it just triggered me right away.

I'm glad you're at least hearing me out rather than hardbodying me quickly.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

What do you mean I took none of them?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
That's why I'm thinking aloud. It's helping me weigh every possibility. Marshy was NOT in my pool of trackable people. GOOD LORD WHERE DOD THAT COME FROM? In the post you just quoted, each of the people tagged was me literally asking who I should track. Marshy was the only one who got back with a pool of players so those were my choices.

You threatening me is normal. JeXs was weird because of how he's played the whole game up until asking. I could easily be wrong but it just triggered me right away.

I'm glad you're at least hearing me out rather than hardbodying me quickly.

i was loking at the one where you said rz was due to marshy being vocal

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

What do you mean I took none of them?

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake
That's why I'm thinking aloud. It's helping me weigh every possibility. Marshy was NOT in my pool of trackable people. GOOD LORD WHERE DOD THAT COME FROM? In the post you just quoted, each of the people tagged was me literally asking who I should track. Marshy was the only one who got back with a pool of players so those were my choices.

You threatening me is normal. JeXs was weird because of how he's played the whole game up until asking. I could easily be wrong but it just triggered me right away.

I'm glad you're at least hearing me out rather than hardbodying me quickly.

What makes JeXs scum weird ? I know you said he expected that but i want you to explain moreso how you feel thats neccessarily scummy. Did he ask to start a dog pile on you ? Do you think he set you up visa vie a janky result or messing with your action.

Or is he just trying to get the easy ql ?

If it stands out, do you think him not voting you yet does too ? I mean if your gunna say he's scum doing this i'd expect he would vote you once you said what he expected

 

[Jdietz43]

I'm looking back at all the interactions now and almost none of Scary's recent stances make sense from a town perspective. Besides the late D1 posts that first got him under pressure and his admitting he had no real reason to scumread Kantrip other than that Rake had an opinion I've noticed this wrt his claim and push directions:


I'll come right out and say I don't buy Miller Tracker in a game with Informed Miller, even in a Ryker game. The circumstances where he claimed makes me think it was a noob mistake seeing one Miller and realizing he could hedge against the presumed cop since he was already on the block. But he's recently been fishing hard to check if people dislike Mac and whether he can push him. If you don't remember (I didn't until I looked back to check), Joey was the claimed Informed Miller whom Macman replaced.

Recently he's gone from:

Do I think you're scummy @ #HBC | Mac , not really. You're play and activity has been solid but I would still like an Orbo case since you went to him first. Null Town at the moment.

I understand you in response to my stuff about the setup. Needed to speak my mind a bit since it was something bugging me a little. I know it isn't the best thing to go on about but I don't think some speculation isn't terrible.

to

Would it be ok to say that if I live toDay, survive the night and somehow get blocked, we bury Mac?

This seems to me like a badly placed fear response to Raz pointing out that two Millers is unlikely.

Combine that with the grimiest random hammer I've ever had the misfortune to catch up to and Scary just needs to die today. We don't have the luxury of keeping him around and he's not helping anyone out here with his track choices and claiming blocked. If he's actually town we already lost.

Vote: Scary

 

[Jdietz43]

What do you mean I took none of them?

Nvm, saw the "raz" snuck into the No Hetero post now. But I am still bothered that you personally voiced suspicion for Orbo before suggestions, then changed to Raz.

Why do you think you were blocked? What was the wording on your other tracks (and who were they?)

 

[JeXs]

vote: scary

 

[Jdietz43]

EBWOP: Being that Orbo was also suggested.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

What makes JeXs scum weird ? I know you said he expected that but i want you to explain moreso how you feel thats neccessarily scummy. Did he ask to start a dog pile on you ? Do you think he set you up visa vie a janky result or messing with your action.

Or is he just trying to get the easy ql ?

If it stands out, do you think him not voting you yet does too ? I mean if your gunna say he's scum doing this i'd expect he would vote you once you said what he expected

A little bit. What I'm trying to make sense of is that there has been a full commitment to this sheep play all the way to D4 now. Even though his question preceded yours by one minute, it stood out because he hadn't taken the lead in any venture in this game so far. Not one. Someone would have already spoken before he chimes in. Even now, @ JeXs hasn't necessarily responded to a request of mine for a read list. Hell, it could be just a basic list but I want to see something out of him that hasn't been preceded by something from someone else.

@ Jdietz43
Alright fine. Kill me. Go for it. "If I am town, we've already lost" huh? Then we've lost and I'll hold that L for now. When I flip town if it goes through, what direction are you going in MyLo?

 

[Jdietz43]

vote: scary

Whoa there kid, that's L-1

Unvote

 

[#HBC | Scary]

That L-1 I think.

Wording on other was was "inglorious ******* travels nowhere" when I tracked Gheb.

Obvious reasoning would be that marshy/nabe struck scum in their "track pool" and the odds must have been in my favor that I would hit something. Why else would they block a tracker with all the suspicions on him and my horrendous play this far.

Though I had already voiced suspicions of Orbo, I still don't really have a solid case to this point honestly. I picked Raz because I'm much more worried with his lack of content.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

And here's a thanks for your Unvote.

 

[Jdietz43]

@ JeXs I think it's time you made some solid reads lists, I'm not comfortable with a no-show vote like that

 

[Jdietz43]

@ Jdietz43
Alright fine. Kill me. Go for it. "If I am town, we've already lost" huh? Then we've lost and I'll hold that L for now. When I flip town if it goes through, what direction are you going in MyLo?

My gut tells me it'd be Orbo, probably regardless of your flip. He's managed to keep his scum-reads at arm's length all the way to D4 now which is uncharacteristic of him. It feels like he's coasting by on the fact that I haven't been around so his voicing meta-suspicion on me isn't fully out of place, but I've been waiting for him to step to me hard about it to get a read and he hasn't. I'd have expected him to pull the trigger by now. Instead

exceot last time we also had claim psychosis city as a bit of a runaround to help with that.

Talk to me about scary and his claim.

is as close to a call out I got when I came back. I think he could've easily assumed what my stance on the claim was going to be and that convo wouldn't have gone anywhere towards furthing his "idk guys"

He's proved he was around with posts like:

Was that hammer?

But chose not to steer in any direction when crunch-time hit.

So for those reasons if it's not you I'm going to bet it's him.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

can we unvote scary please, we have an entire day to lynch him we dont gotta do it now

JD, who is scum besides scary?