Ryker Mafia 3 Day 4 Deadline 8/21 11:59

[JeXs]

Oops hit post button lol

Hard to pin down a read on either of the Kanty/Orbo slots but I would lean toward Kanty scum for the time being. Still working on what happened on the game since I'm currently computer-less.

Concerned about the JeXs sheep but like Rake said, I'm not sure what's being gained from the current style of play. It's to a point where I kinda want to lean town a little bit on gut just because of the full commitment to the sheep.

What do you think of my sheeping? I want a hard stance, do you think it's scummy or townie? How does it affect your read on me?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'll admit the bit about scary not really looking for scum pretty accurate because i remember how scary played too, im just not fully convinced yet that scary just didn't vote where he agreed with. It's hard for me to see scary approaching this game THE EXACT WAY that got him lynched hard and fast last time and going: yeah lets doi that as scum again.

Scary maybe new-esque to mafia but he's not an idiot, at the very least i'd hope he'd learn how to fake better content if he rolled scum again.

 

[JeXs]

I'll admit the bit about scary not really looking for scum pretty accurate because i remember how scary played too, im just not fully convinced yet that scary just didn't vote where he agreed with. It's hard for me to see scary approaching this game THE EXACT WAY that got him lynched hard and fast last time and going: yeah lets doi that as scum again.

Scary maybe new-esque to mafia but he's not an idiot, at the very least i'd hope he'd learn how to fake better content if he rolled scum again.

So you think he's town?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'm not saying i completely disagree with mac, but i am saying i need to re-read in the context of current events considering what mac's said, becausse that's only fair. I could probably live with a scary lynch but i'd much rather have kantrip because his play his a lot more telling and scummy from mypov. Even moreso than scary because kantrips not even playing hte game.

@your recent post:

Null townish atm. Need to re-read because he was floating as a null with an itty bitty town lean day one. Me gutting out and delving into wifom on what he may do needs a solidified ideal behind it.

Tl;dr : null town, worth re-reading over but probably won't go this way unless i see something a lot more convincing (which is unlikely given the game's length) than what mac posted

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Basically i'd settle for him if i had to just because he's so close to null, like tbh i'd lynch nabe first just becausse alakaslam

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

And also because nabe levels of inactivity, really hope he and marshy come on guns blazing because im expecting nothing less

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Jexs, if you could kill one olayer freely right now, who and why ?

 

[JeXs]

NH replaced nabe. Maybe that can help lol. I do agree that scary isn't doing much but the game wasn't all that telling to me either so I have a slight scum lean on him.

 

[JeXs]

Jexs, if you could kill one olayer freely right now, who and why ?

None. No strong scum reads as of now.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Sleeping now, hopefully I don't see anymore dumb posts that i need to use my volibear flipping a table picture on

 

[Jdietz43]

Ryker just let me in on the fact that this was up and running again after our Uniel matches, but I'm too lazy to read hard right now. I'll be free tomorrow to catch up though so you can hold me to that.

 

[Kantrip]

Scary why do you think I'm scum?

Looking at the posts Mac quoted, you liked me yesterDay and followed along with my thought process. What changed besides the week-long Night phase?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@ Raziek
Please join in, there's lots of valuable information to play with.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Not read up yet but will be later.

@ #HBC | Mac

You think I'm scum still? With Orbo? Care to explain?

 

[Raziek]

@ Raziek
Please join in, there's lots of valuable information to play with.

I see that, I've been working most of the past 2 days.

I will be doing a detailed re-read later tonight.

 

[Raziek]

Raz why are you going to be a nonfactor thread dodger like you always are.

In retrospect, now I feel bad, but I blame Ryker.

"Well of course, the game just started, its extremely normal for it to nothing be happened yet. Did you REALLY felt bothered by it?"

Oh goodness.

Vote: Unassuming Local Guys

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I still stand by my previous assertion that this vote was trash.

I've skimmed the cluster****. I am shaking my head right now. I like how PP handled the whole situation though, especially WRT the AtE.

I'll be around to contribute more tomorrow after work.

Rake is the next replacement on the list, yeah? Here's hoping he doesn't put his foot in his mouth immediately, haha.

I want to further elaborate on what I said here, since it still holds true on a re-read.

I think the way PP handled the situation, specifically his 98, indicates a clear disconnect between Soup's slot and theirs. Not scum together. That sort of interaction wouldn't make sense.

Edit: Then I remembered that J's ends up getting lynched and this becomes irrelevant. Oh well, leaving it here.

I'm bothered by PPs push on Soup, not Dietz though.

What about it bothered you?

Joey slot town. Play and meta is townJoey. I've only been wrong once due to not knowing of two scum teams existing.

J slot scum. Laundry looks the worst from his posts and J pretty much offering Soup as a lynch then condemning Gorf slot despite offering null play to lynch soup.

Dietz slot town, I'm not as confident in this once compared to the others but he's the main one I liked actually pushing Soup.

Vote: J

I'll vote others outside of Joey and Dietz to avoid a No lynch.

Okay, I actually quite liked this post in retrospect, these were good points on J's slot.

Guess we're not gonna vote Joey.

Ummmmm, what do we do guys?

I'm concerned by the lack of actual direction here. Scary hasn't done anything meaningful or taken any stances at this point.

I like Dietz's 218.

Ummmmm

Unvote
Vote: soup

This first day man......I can't even read it correctly. It's just silly.

Still nothing.

If Joey is scum, I am pretty sure I can pin both of his partners right now.
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I'd actually really like to know about this, @ Kantrip . Who did you have in your mind at this point?

Rake I need your top 2 lynch choices and some you'd settle on, and some reasons for the 2 would be nice. Your play is worse than soup's so far as far as I'm concerned

Wow, I can't believed I glazed over this. How is Rake's play WORSE than Soup's was?

@ Raziek

is your activity going to pick up toMorrow or do I have to wait until D3?

Day 2 is better than Day 3, I suppose.

IGMEOU Gheb/Orbo depending on the flip.

Talking about Scary toMorrow.

I am interested in this. Was not a fan of Scary D1.

So indy vote manipulator, town vote blocker, AND a non-consecutive Day double voter?

Damn.

@ Raziek Do you think I'm scum?

I have no reason to at this point, no.

You want me dead, that's a good starting point. Convince other people to join you. See who does. Lay out some reasoning. See who agrees/disagrees.

Hopefully more people will also provide content. As it stands, I think you are town and Raziek is scum. Past that I have no memory of this game.

Bwuh?

His repeated refusal to even respond to me or answer my questions for a start. But he's been around the forum and has demonstrated he is reading the thread. This read can change quite easily if he does.

Oh, okay. You just want me to play. Got it.

Oops hit post button lol

Hard to pin down a read on either of the Kanty/Orbo slots but I would lean toward Kanty scum for the time being. Still working on what happened on the game since I'm currently computer-less.

Concerned about the JeXs sheep but like Rake said, I'm not sure what's being gained from the current style of play. It's to a point where I kinda want to lean town a little bit on gut just because of the full commitment to the sheep.

Kantrip scum why?

>Mac's 468.

Homie. I'm glad you feel the Scary hate. I will most likely be joining you with a vote by the end of this post.

I am now caught up. Reads + Vote in following post.

 

[Raziek]

****, I ****ed up the quoting. Just open it up, it isn't broken INSIDE the quotes.

 

[Raziek]

2. JDietz43 - Slight Town lean. I liked how he handled the early Soupsplosion, but like me, he disappeared for most of the rest of the day. At least partially for the same reasons, one of them being that UNIEL is too fun.

5. PB&J Sandwich (BadWolf28738/Red Ryu) - Town all day. This is textbook Ruy Town, he's asking all the right questions, no dumb gifs or confrontational play to be found.

6. JeXs - Sliiiiight Town lean. Mostly just piggybacking other people's reads here, including Rake's quick meta analysis on his response during D2.

7. Joey Macman - Town lean. I hated Joey's Day 1, but Mac is giving me all sorts of good vibes right now.

8. Potassium - Null. I'm perplexed by his fixation on me, and the fact that he isn't really doing much else. Really want to know about that <If Joey scum, then I know his partners> thing.

9. No Hetero. Straight null at the moment. On board with his scary pressure. Would like to know, though, why do you dislike Gheb atm?

10. Rake - Town lean. I'm liking most of his play. Only thing giving me pause is I'm not convinced for his reasoning for not following the Scary pressure. 'He can't be bad enough to play like he did last time he was scum' is fairly weak justification on that front.

11. Scary - Scum lean. Despite being present (and not really inactive), has showed no initiative to scumhunt. On board with Mac's points here.

Scary: Who is scum? Where are you looking right now?

12. Orboknown - I actually have no idea how I feel about this slot, which is alarming, given the apparent hate for the slot. Very few of his posts stood out to me.

Can someone give me a quick summary of the anti-Orbo sentiments? Particularly appreciate if you'd quote relevant posts of his.

13. Gheb_01 - I liked something Gheb did D1, but I can't remember what exactly. Throwing this in the null pile for the moment.

vote: #HBC | Scary

 

[Kantrip]

I've gotta be honest about that pinning Joey's mates comment, I mixed up this game with another one and thought someone was in this game's playerlist who isn't. That's all I can say on the matter, my apologies.

 

[Kantrip]

Also it's largely irrelevant as I am fine with Mac.

 

[Kantrip]

Damn those Scary quotes near the end of the Day yesterDay reek.

Vote: Scary

His "guess we're not voting J, so uh what are we doing guys? Umm, guys? This Day is crazy lol, I don't know what to do haha vote: soup" string is enough for me to lynch him right now.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

so does anyone know what a neighborhood is

 

[Raziek]

It's a QT where alignments (and sometimes identities) are not confirmed.

Why do you ask?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

oh right like neighbors

derp

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@No Hetero some reads please

 

[Jdietz43]

Because my role om says town and I've been trying to get stuff done in my limited time online? Not much has caught me so far which is part of why I want to reread and see if anything I missed looks promising.
Simultaneously the fact that I'm here being belligerent towards people and trying to work with a few slots is not something I do as scum.

Lol, you know that's exactly what we did when we hydra'd last as scum.

 

[Jdietz43]

@ Anyone: Is #HBC | Scary = Kary?


@Mac, why was Gheb associated with Orbo in your mind near the beginning of the day/end of yesterday?

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Ok, it took some time since I'm relegated to phone only but I think I'm caught up now with my recent reread.

Aiming to look at Potassium for the time being. With regard to his question about why I think he could be scum even though I was agreeing with his train of thought, I answer with my agreements came with respect to the mentions he made of lynching Joey and confirming his informed miller. At the time, deadline hadn't been extended yet and between him and Soup's slot, I felt that it would be better to have the confirmed information. However, that was the only train of thought I was in agreence with. I'm just staying on my toes here just because I'm following on my biggest townread in Rake.

Truthfully, I'm lacking any real things to pick out for nailing scum since I'm still really processing things from the reread but I'm willing to bet that Rake, Gheb, PB&J are town. JeXs, I think is townier after the interaction with Rake.

There are a few things that have me thinking:

What was @ #HBC | Mac trying to say with his first post of D2 pretty much saying "Orbo is scum"? Obviously he wants to pursue him but he has yet to present a case and has merely left it at "Orbo is scum...vote him".

I'm also somewhat conflicted about the informed miller part back on D1. So far we have lost a voteblocker that was town but the informed miller only made mention of a Town Roleblocker. How informed of a miller do you think it was? I'm thinking that this game is loaded with funny PR roles.

I also wanna look into the No Hetero hydra just from lack of anything. I always kinda worry a little when something related to Nabe doesn't post much.

@ Jdietz43
Lol, I'm not Kary. That'd be kinda funny.

 

[Jdietz43]

Damn those Scary quotes near the end of the Day yesterDay reek.

Vote: Scary

His "guess we're not voting J, so uh what are we doing guys? Umm, guys? This Day is crazy lol, I don't know what to do haha vote: soup" string is enough for me to lynch him right now.

Does the fact that J flipped Indy affect your Scary read at all?

 

[Jdietz43]

@ Jdietz43
Lol, I'm not Kary. That'd be kinda funny.

Then I guess I won't lynch you solely for being the most noncommittal Kary has ever been right now.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@ Anyone: Is #HBC | Scary = Kary?

no he's not

@ ~ Gheb ~ @ Jdietz43 (pre-edit and now scary) can you guys give your own opinions / findings / reads b4 asking for elaboration on mine? I already said I don't remember why I thought that (well now I remember but don't feel like focusing on it just yet). Why fish so heavily for it

 

[Jdietz43]

Woulda been nice though, now I have to re-read the slot without Kary meta :<

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I'm also somewhat conflicted about the informed miller part back on D1. So far we have lost a voteblocker that was town but the informed miller only made mention of a Town Roleblocker. How informed of a miller do you think it was? I'm thinking that this game is loaded with funny PR roles.

pretty terrible post all around but specifically this, what exactly are you conflicted about? What does the bolded question even mean

why do you have a town read on gheb?

 

[Jdietz43]

no he's not

@ ~ Gheb ~ @ Jdietz43 (pre-edit and now scary) can you guys give your own opinions / findings / reads b4 asking for elaboration on mine? I already said I don't remember why I thought that (well now I remember but don't feel like focusing on it just yet). Why fish so heavily for it

Because it seems like a connection picked entirely at random. Neither slot is a shining example so far but they don't seem to have anything to do with each other as far as I can tell. You don't call out specific stuff like that unless you feel strongly about it, and even in scenarios where Orbo is scum I don't see why that makes Gheb a partner.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

alright, @ Jdietz43 who's scum?

 

[Kantrip]

So Scary you scumread me because Rake does, am I reading that correctly?

Have any reasoning of your own?

 

[Raziek]

why do you have a town read on gheb?

This.

 

[Jdietz43]

From this re-read I'd say Scary is my most comfortable scumread
Orbo could be emulating what we did in our last game pretty easy but I'd rather he was around at least one more day to call it
Kantrip and Gheb I need more from (or at least more time to read them) to see.
No Hetero could become a factor if one or more of those don't pan out.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

pretty terrible post all around but specifically this, what exactly are you conflicted about? What does the bolded question even mean

why do you have a town read on gheb?

in addition to this @ #HBC | Scary :

Do you think I'm scummy because of the things you've mentioned?

you say you wanna 'look into' ppl, does that mean you think they're scummy? (wrt kantrip and no hetero).

It;s ok to express your scum reads noone will hate you for being wrong

 

[Jdietz43]

What's the votecount at?