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I'm a bit more optimistic about PM Roy. He still has crazy autocombos, free kill setups, things of his own like crazy strings into fsmash, fsmash -> edgeguard to end stocks at low percents, some of the best crouch cancel in the game, being a fastfaller swordsman, and he has essential tools to do well. A jack-of-all trades with a fantastic sword and his recovery's not that bad. DI and recovery mixups mitigate it more than people like to admit. Maybe somewhere in the mids or high tier but I haven't been well-versed in PM since 2014. He's barely lost anything since then and a lot in PM was toned down, plus he's had a lot more meta development than Melee, so I'm confident in how I feel. I still believe he's a threat in PM.I like what both mods have done with Roy but sadly though with PM ending how it did, PM Roy is in just as bad as a spot Melee Roy is. Brawl - Roy feels a bit sharp in both animations and movement but I'm pretty sure thats getting worked on.
While not the same reasons, PM Roy cannot keep up with bad MUs because hes overly balanced in a Melee aspect not PM. There is no reason to play him because his insanely poor recovery. I switched to Ike because Roy doesn't have that PM jank (and Ike has plenty on it). He's too clean, however he would be a perfect fit for Melee.
So here falls to Smash 4 where he still has potential to be relevant.
I will agree that Ike has more jank and is better overall. Ike's easier to play too and general Smash fundamentals transfer a bit more. CO has some insane Ikes. He has everything he needs for PM. Not a bad switch. I don't feel Roy's invalidated just because Ike's better, though. Roy still has things going for him, he's good, he has a lot of resources to study, and certain playstyles may favor him. People who specifically like Roy still have a lot of ground to work with. He's got VODs for days.
Btw, have you played Minus 4.0? He feels a decent amount more natural and correct after previous versions, I did much better with him and everything flowed more naturally when I first played 4.0.
I've had a bit of nostalgia for it lately. I miss how much of a family it felt like and I haven't really felt anything like it since on the Roy boards unfortunately.Man I miss the days of the Roy Support thread back in April, May, and June of last year. We would always talk about everything Roy related and we banded together with our support for Roy as we anxiously waited for E3. Good times.
The Royvolution on Facebook was the same for me, and now it's a dead group with pretty much everyone I worked with gone.
My experience in the Discord's been nice so far, and I feel myself level and have a lot of fun, but those times really were irreplaceable.
I haven't seen the likes of Guinea, Chrono, Rhythm, Valkyrie, Roy Pherae, etc. on the boards after DLC besides maybe once. I still talk to Roy Pherae on Facebook and I played him just now, but it's odd knowing he might never use the boards again. You and Croph aren't on much, and I constantly poof for months. I'm so glad I see Tahu/Rick (pretty much a board brother) almost every day now. It feels strange going into all of this with a bunch of unfamiliar faces, worrying about making bad impressions or feeling like an underdog or nobody here despite all the work I put into the movement. I still feel awkward trying to fit into the boards here, especially with the methods I use to speak against certain things happening and how I tend to not worry about how I look at times.
Feeling that awkwardness doesn't bother me tho, even if I didn't have it I wouldn't have that family feeling still. That's what I'm missing. I'm fine with being pretty solitary outside of it.
I couldn't ask for a better result tho, my favorite lord has a palette on my 2nd-favorite lord from my favorite series of all time. Roy's got palettes out the ass from my favorite Fire Emblem (tied with Thracia). Roy is really satisfying to improve with, extremely fun to play, I feel like I have the tools to win any MU competitively, and I feel like I really have to think and play creatively in both neutral and punishes. He fulfills everything in wonderful ways. Even if nobody else sees in this character what I do, that's fine because I still have access to play and innovate this character for years (which is a lot of time btw), and they can't sway me so long as I beat my occasional ruts and continue to create conviction. That's the wonderful feeling of being a Roy main for me. I'm honored to main this character and for him to return. He really helped with my soul-searching before June and just my indecisiveness with Smash.
It's so, so fantastic that I can play him with my best friends online again, and I think I take that for granted at times.
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