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Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

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Johnknight1

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#FreeAgent. Somebody draft me. Except Jigglypuff or Pichu (especially Pichu because he ain't coming back). Just no.
Join #TeamLucario because...
We are the men of the hour
Too sweet to be sour
What you see is what you get
And what you don't is better yet
We're the ladies' pick
And the men's regret
And if you went against #TeamLucario you made a bad bet.
 

Zhadgon

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hahah you're right! :laugh: I was thinking about making Mewtwo's black/dark gray too. I'm not sure why I chose the order I did though haha
And if you can do two more squares for Other with the question mark symbol and None with a red cross, it would be great, if you can, is not necessary.
.n_n.
 

TumblrFamous

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In the sense that his Niche in Melee was occupied by someone else in Brawl, he was "replaced."

They occupy the same conceptual niche on a smash bros roster, so a good way to put how I view it, would be Sakurai saying, "Forgo Mewtwo, his role in melee can be filled by Lucario in Brawl. It'd be nice to have both, but we simply don't have the time."

In that sense, it's a replacement.



"Lucario fills the role enough, we no longer need Mewtwo, let's save time."
No, that is not a replacement! That is Mewtwo simply not making the cut because he wasn't as far in development as they wanted him to be! Just because they fill the same role and one of them is cut does not mean that he was replaced by the other character. A "replacement" is a character who was immediately taken out of a game and then, in that character's place, a new character would take that spot. Young Link was replaced. Pichu was replaced. Both of them were taken out immediately after Melee and they added other characters in their place.

Mewtwo was not "immediately taken out", he has data on there. Whether he has .01%-99.9% of data on there, he was NOT replaced. He was planned, and simply did not make the cut. The fact alone that him and Lucario were going to be in the game together, which I know you know, is evidence that he was not replaced.
 

MargnetMan23

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Join #Lucario because...
We are the men of the hour
Too sweet to be sour
What you see is what you get
And what you don't is better yet
We're the ladies' pick
And the men's regret
And if you went against #TeamLucario you made a bad bet.
The hipster inside of me that legitimately dislikes some pokemon due to over exposure disagrees =P
 

Zhadgon

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WHO WILL BE THE ONE?



THE CURRENT BIDS:

1. Mewtwo (20 votes)
- Zhadgon
- BluePikmin11
- KingofPhantoms47
- SchAlternate
- xlblisx
- Hotfeet444
- TumblrFamous
- Espio264
- GoldenYuiitusin
- Xenoblaze
- Starphoenix
- CrusherMania1592
- Venus of the Dessert Bloom
- Mega Bidoof
- Frostwraith
- Louie G.
- Hank Hill
- Ridley_Prime
- 3Bismyname
- Brawler610

2. Lucario (8 votes)
- SaturnGamer64
- Zero2570
- OcarinaofDoom
- Gune
- Pacack
- Arcanir
- Johnknight1
- Onyx Oblivian

3. Pokemon Trainer (10 votes)
- TumblrFamous
- Gormanbros
- Kikwi-Kiwi
- shinhed-echi
- FalKoopa
- Ariand/AEM
- BKupa666
- Kikaru
- lonekonwolf
- Reznor

4. Jigglypuff (12 votes)
- MorbidAltruism
- Baeif8
- YoshiandToad
- Gohan
- MargnetMan23
- EddyBearr
- Kapus
- Brad-Rock
- SuperBrawler
- NickerBocker
- Rasumii
- Rosalina suporter

5. Pichu (1 vote)
- Chandelure

6. Other (0 votes)
- None

7. No Pokemon (0 votes)
- None

#.Undecided (1 person)
- Rebellious Treecko - For everyone.

Who will win ladies and gentleman, put your bid for which Pokemon will be reveled this week.

I will post the list every three entries, so the thread can be easier to read and don't get saturated of lists.

Special Thanks:
To Johnknight1 for creating the idea.
To MorbidAltruism for supporting and getting the list right.
To Onyx Oblivian for the image and title of this game.

.n_n.
 

Scoliosis Jones

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In all seriousness, i'm torn between Lucario and Mewtwo. So to decide which team I join, I will issue a challenge.

Whoever finishes a picture of my current avatar, with either Mewtwo's or Lucario's face instead of Booker DeWitt, I will join that team. Or, if you replace Booker's face with Dunsparce, you win the internet.
 

TheLastJinjo

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In the sense that his Niche in Melee was occupied by someone else in Brawl, he was "replaced."
Oh, my god........HE WASN'T REPLACED!

They occupy the same conceptual niche on a smash bros roster, so a good way to put how I view it, would be Sakurai saying, "Forgo Mewtwo, his role in melee can be filled by Lucario in Brawl. It'd be nice to have both, but we simply don't have the time."
See here is the thing, you're comparing 2 completely different characters. This isn't a matter of Plusle VS Minun. They were BOTH planned and one (who actually had the most data of the forbidden 7) simply didn't make it in. If Lucario hadn't been in Mewtwo would have made it, but guess what: Same applies for Pokemon Trainer. I guess he replaced Mewtwo because they are both Gen 1 Pokemon. Since we are making such minor comparisons to characters.


Bi-pedal semi-"magical" high-intelligence talking movie-pokemon with a general physical-"magical" fighting style mix and fills the role of a "pokemon that seems like it could be a stand-alone character in an entirely different franchise because it's not as animalistic as Pikachu, Jigglypuff, or Bidoof."
I'd argue they're approximately the same concept.
I agree that Lucario was in fact inspired by Mewtwo. But that has nothing to do with him replacing anybody. We might as well say ROB replaced Mewtwo.


First thing I'm gonna ask for is a citation for Mewtwo "just barely missing the time slot."
He didn't JUST miss it, but he had the most data. My theory is that even if we didn't add Jigglypuff we still wouldn't have time for Mewtwo, so it probably had nothing to do with who can fill the void. He did kind of filled the void in my opinion, but according to everyone else....
 

Zhadgon

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WHO WILL BE THE ONE?



THE CURRENT BIDS:

1. MEWTWO (20 votes)
- Zhadgon
- BluePikmin11
- KingofPhantoms47
- SchAlternate
- xlblisx
- Hotfeet444
- TumblrFamous
- Espio264
- GoldenYuiitusin
- Xenoblaze
- Starphoenix
- CrusherMania1592
- Venus of the Desert Bloom
- Mega Bidoof
- Frostwraith
- Louie G.
- Hank Hill
- Ridley_Prime
- 3Bismyname
- Brawler610

2. LUCARIO (8 votes)
- SaturnGamer64
- Zero2570
- Gune
- Pacack
- Arcanir
- Johnknight1
- Onyx Oblivian
- legendofrob1

3. POKEMON TRAINER (11 votes)
- TumblrFamous
- Gormanbros
- Kikwi-Kiwi
- shinhed-echi
- FalKoopa
- Ariand/AEM
- BKupa666
- Kikaru
- lonekonwolf
- Reznor
- ScatmansWorld25

4. JIGGLYPUFF (12 votes)
- MorbidAltruism
- Baeif8
- YoshiandToad
- Gohan
- MargnetMan23
- EddyBearr
- Kapus
- Brad-Rock
- SuperBrawler
- NickerBocker
- Rasumii
- Rosalina suporter

5. PICHU (1 vote)
- Chandelure

6. OTHER (2 votes)
- OcarinaofDoom - Goomy
- Scoliosis Jons - Dunsparce

7. NONE (0 votes)
- None

#.Undecided (1 person)
- Rebellious Treecko - For everyone.

Who will win ladies and gentleman, put your bid for which Pokemon will be reveled this week.

I will post the list every three entries, so the thread can be easier to read and don't get saturated of lists.

Special Thanks:
To Johnknight1 for creating the idea.
To MorbidAltruism for supporting and getting the list right.
To Onyx Oblivian for the image and title of this game.

.n_n.
 
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