You were advocating over and over again that Mewtwo was replaced, then when people started asking you, you basically said: "No, he was taken out, not replaced!"
Maybe you did simply mistake, but based on the posts that followed that, you meant replaced. I don't want to discuss it anymore.
In the sense that his Niche in Melee was occupied by someone else in Brawl, he was "replaced."
They occupy the same conceptual niche on a smash bros roster, so a good way to put how I view it, would be Sakurai saying, "Forgo Mewtwo, his role in melee can be filled by Lucario in Brawl. It'd be nice to have both, but we simply don't have the time."
In that sense, it's a replacement.
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They aren't even similar.
Bi-pedal semi-"magical" high-intelligence talking movie-pokemon with a general physical-"magical" fighting style mix and fills the role of a "pokemon that seems like it could be a stand-alone character in an entirely different franchise because it's not as animalistic as Pikachu, Jigglypuff, or Bidoof."
I'd argue they're approximately the same concept.
Sakurai doesn't give a crap about generational representation, he nearly skipped Melee not adding Pichu if it wasn't for clones and didn't bother with Gen 3. Lucario got in on his own merits, not because of some "we need to represent all generations!" mentality.
The comment you're replying to has absolutely nothing to do with Lucario. I never came close to implying that Lucario got in because of the generation he comes from wasn't represented yet. Any interpretation of such is an assumption.
Or rather you're making an exception of Lucario just because you want to get rid of him?
Or I just haven't observed nearly as strong a following for Lucario as I have for Roy or Mewtwo, or Ike for characters that could "ever-so-possibly" not come back. Being cynical isn't exactly an argument.
Again, Sakurai doesn't care about that.
[citation needed.]
Except he wasn't even "forgo," he just slightly missed the time slot. He was the farthest ahead of any newcomer, if they wanted to replace (or whatever) him with Lucario, they wouldn't have bothered to even give him that much.
First thing I'm gonna ask for is a citation for Mewtwo "just barely missing the time slot." I've yet to see any evidence to make for a definitive claim like that.
Secondly, I'd like to note that a planned-then-dropped character, whether at 0.1% completion or 95% completion, is "forgone" during development. It matters not what the circumstances that caused the drop were.
Finally, I've said a few times I'd believe it was a mid-development decision (IE, at the time in which time constraints presented itself,) so it's very viable that effort was made for Mewtwo before the decision was made that "Lucario fills the role enough, we no longer need Mewtwo, let's save time."
I was thinking about making Mewtwo's black/dark gray too. I'm not sure why I chose the order I did though haha
