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TheLastJinjo

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Frostwraith said:
It's quote simple, in fact:

Your reasoning to not have Chrom but have Roy instead is because Roy is a more interesting character.
Then, you state that Impa should replace Sheik because Skyward Sword is more recent.
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Thank you. I've been trying to get that across to him several times in the past.
 
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So... Chrom and Roy again....

They're both certainly possible. Both can be unique. Both can be clones of Marth. Both are pretty possible.

However. Recency, as much as people hate to admit it, does play some part in the selection process, primarily with FE and Pokemon. With so many new characters being added, it's sensible to include the posterboy from the most recent game. So I do find Chrom more likely, simply because recency is a small yet definite factor.
 
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TheDivineDeity said:
What makes Chrom likely? Oh yeah MUH RECENCY. Roy's pretty recent too, you know.
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Roy is over 10 years old. How the hell is that recent?
Roy is more important to Fire Emblem than Chrom, whether the past or present.
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Bull****. That was a 100% subjective point
Roy's been in at least 3 games, INCLUDING CHROMS!!!
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Being included in Awakening DLC absolutely does not make you more prominent or likely. Every Fire Emblem game had at least one Lord get a redesign in Awakening. Mentioning that a certain FE lord was included in DLC is the same as mentioning they were once a main character, which in a race between Fire Emblem's main characters is a pretty pointless thing to bring up.
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Not to mention that Roy's appearance in FE7 last about a total of 30sec.
 
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In all seriousness, I was about to suggest a topic but then I realized it wouldn't "fit" the thread's main point. However, when I thought about it harder, all I could think was how this place was only a deathtrap for flamewars.

So, may I ask, what is thread's true purpose?
 
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SaturnGamer64 said:
Welcome to the club, my brother.
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You mean the club of "LALALALA I"M NOT LISTENING!!!"??? :glare:

Louie G. said:
What do you think, I would respond to something I didn't read? Boy, you must know a lot about that.
Sheik vs Impa and Roy vs Chrom are very similar cases. You mentioned recency. You dug yourself in a hole, find a way out.
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No they are not similar - Roy and Impa are MUCH MORE IMPORTANT to their respective franchises then Chrom and Sheik. It's the truth, just look at their roles in their own games. Who is more important, huh? Who? Why of course, Roy and Impa. :smirk:

- Roy is a main character in 2 games, Fire emblem 6 and 7. Chrom isn't even a main character in HIS OWN game - he and Lucina share the main character role, so Chrom's only a co-main character. Even then, Roy still has more mainstream exposure because of Melee while Chrom does not. hence Roy is much more popular. :ohwell:

- Impa is in the original Zelda game 1 and 2 and has a reoccuring role in OoT and SS. Sheik only appears in OoT. :ohwell:

- Both Roy and Impa have much more requests sent to Sakurai then Chrom and Sheik. :ohwell:

See how that works? The more important a character is to their series, the more important they are to Sakurai. Otherwise we would have Luigi before Mario... :glare:
 
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xIblisx said:
In all seriousness, I was about to suggest a topic but then I realized it wouldn't "fit" the thread's main point. However, when I thought about it harder, all I could think was how this place was only a deathtrap for flamewars.

So, may I ask, what is thread's true purpose?
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That's a great question to discuss rosters that were posted in the display thread, I think.
 
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xIblisx said:
In all seriousness, I was about to suggest a topic but then I realized it wouldn't "fit" the thread's main point. However, when I thought about it harder, all I could think was how this place was only a deathtrap for flamewars.

So, may I ask, what is thread's true purpose?
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  • Be a **** and then complain others are being a **** back to you
  • **** on any character that isn't Little Mac & Ridley
  • Argue about Fire Emblem
We also have movie nights on fridays :awesome:
 
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xIblisx said:
In all seriousness, I was about to suggest a topic but then I realized it wouldn't "fit" the thread's main point. However, when I thought about it harder, all I could think was how this place was only a deathtrap for flamewars.

So, may I ask, what is thread's true purpose?
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To ***** about Corn.
 
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TheDivineDeity said:
See how that works? The more important a character is to their series, the more important they are to Sakurai. Otherwise we would have Luigi before Mario... :glare:
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That's funny.
That's why Impa hasn't MADE the roster at all, Roy got cut, Mewtwo got cut, Falco got in before Wolf, Jigglypuff hasn't been cut (and won't be) and etc.
See? This makes no sense. If Roy really meant that much to Sakurai, he would be higher priority. And he wasn't.
 
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TheDivineDeity said:
"I'm not even a big Roy supporter, but your reasoning is bias."
"I'm by no means a fanboy. That would be you Louie G. You are a Chrom fanboy. You're in denial"
Fixed.

What makes Chrom likely? Oh yeah MUH RECENCY. Roy's pretty recent too, you know. Roy is more important to Fire Emblem than Chrom, whether the past or present. Roy's been in at least 3 games, INCLUDING CHROMS!!! So yeah, Roy would have more merit as a potential return than Chomp would as a newcomer.

I also have everybody agreeing with me on this issue, including Habanero, Super Brawler, and others. The only one who is not... is you.
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Now, I'm going to attempt to have a civil discussion with you on this.

As far as the first part of your statement goes, you are essentially claiming that, "all Chrom supporters are vicious to Roy supporters and claim he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and act like Roy never existed," correct? If this is in fact what you're saying, and I'm going to come from a completely unbiased position here, but I believe that the reverse is equally (or even more) true. Around here at least, someone can barely even bring up including Chrom over Roy before being heckled by those saying "you only like him for Muh Recency" or other such things. If anything, the Roy "fanboys" are more...fiery, for lack of a better word, than the Chrom "fanboys." Just from my observations, though. Now, if we were to go to, let's say, Youtube or Gamefaqs, the reverse may be true, but then again, these places are usually cesspools when it comes to speculation, minus the occasional diamonds in the rough.

Now, as far as your claim goes that "Chrom would have no moveset potential/he'd have to be a clone," there's not much to base that on. Both Chrom and Roy can have perfectly fine and unique movesets if enough effort was put into them. Roy? Creating pillars of fire and slashy fire swordplay. Chrom? Possible stance-switching mechanic using the Falchion and the spear, shifting in playstyle as the fight goes on, as well as a healing factor. Both of those sound pretty cool, don't you think? Conversely, both can also be made into clones/semi-clones, where Roy plays like Marth, and Chrom plays like Ike. As you can see, depending on the creativity that Sakurai can offer, the tides can turn in multiple ways. And considering Sakurai's probably not going to go too overboard on semi-clones, I can definitely see whichever third Fire Emblem character as being unique. It just takes a little faith in Sakurai.

Now, one thing that I definitely think Chrom has over Roy is marketability. While getting in just through recency is not exactly good speculation, it goes a bit deeper. Sakurai actually goes to Intelligent Systems for Fire Emblem character suggestions, if Ike's inclusion story is anything to go by. Now, if he were to ask, I'd be pretty sure they'd want the poster boy of their newest successful game to be playable alongside Marth and Ike more so than they would Roy. Just my personal belief, though. I will say, though, that you knocking Chrom for only being in one game is a bit silly, considering he only appeared in the latest game, so logically he'd only be in one so far. Not that it means much, but the Arena Ferox stage on the 3DS is at least worth a mention, I think.

Plus, he's pretty popular to boot. Now admittedly, Roy has some more popularity when it comes to Smash, but if you look at the Top 10 character selection polls for Super Smash Bros. 4, Chrom is usually sitting in the Top 10 alongside Roy, showing that he does, indeed, have popularity. Even Fire Emblem fans like him, judging from the poll that ManlySpirit had going. Admittedly, he pales in comparison to Ike on that poll, but then again, every Fire Emblem character does. :laugh: That doesn't mean they can't coexist.

Basically, that's what I have to say on the matter. If you wish to reply, just please make it civil. I'm willing to accept that public apology you gave everyone, so long as you're civil. I await your reply.
 
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Impa is just Sheik with recency. I honestly don't understand his concept. HOW DO YOU CHANGE INTO SOMEBODY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I mean unless Zelda carries Impa in a Pokeball it doesn't make sense. Why make things more complicated, just keep Sheik. She's already Zelda.
 
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