Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheLastJinjo]

@John
They're all terrible. Four rosters and no Isaac. What's wrong with you?

Seriously though, probably the first. I want Sukapon, but I want Shulk more.



No, I agree, he wasn't the clear candidate to be the mascot or anything, he just edged out his competition. He probably wasn't even in competition with that many Pokemon, only ones that could also fit his criteria, like Clefairy.

It's too weird to think about Pokemon with a different mascot at this point though. O_o

Yeah, I don't see why Jigglypuff is considered a joke character in Smash 64. I mean I'd say she's right after Mewtwo if not maybe Gengar and was incredibly popular in Japan and the Anime.

 

[Morbi]

The thing about supporting WTF characters... It goes against the whole idea of having a WTF character in the first place if there's no shock-value to it. In other words, all this talk of supporting folks like Sheriff and Diskun is rather silly when we'd already see them coming.

Game & Watch, having no basis for us to guess his appearance.
R.O.B., with everyone believing he was out of the game when smaller R.O.B.s were confirmed as enemies.
Wii Fit Trainer, when literally nobody expected her to be one of the first reveals, or a WTF character to be non-retro, or a reveal at all in the first place, actually.

They each came to the roster with impact, the whole point of adding a WTF character. Adding a second type of character like that, to be honest, feels pointless when people are already expecting one. People were blindsided before, but the community is ready for a second whammy, meaning it'll just be a disappointment more than a surprise. I guess you could compare it to if a friend tries to make you flinch by throwing his fist right into your face. It works the first time, sure, but if he tries it again too soon, your reaction won't have as much pay off in that you're ready for it.

So Sheriff, Diskun, and N64 Logo supporters alike. Good for you, you're the ones that aren't going to flinch when/if they're revealed. I'll just be sitting here saying "meh" when/if they are instead.

I just want Sheriff for the .44, I don't even want him because he is a WTF character. I don't even view him as a WTF character to be honest. I just think he would be a great retro character choice. I read somewhere that Sakurai was going to add one. So I figured that he would be an interesting change. To be honest, I wouldn't be "meh" if an N64 logo was a playable fighter. I would still be shocked that Sora Ltd. went through with it.

 

[BluePikmin11]

On topic with the WTF characters, no one would ever expect Harry if they ignored the Virtual Boy throughout the years, I wonder how Harry could be revealed though.

 

[?????????????]

No, I agree, he wasn't the clear candidate to be the mascot or anything, he just edged out his competition. He probably wasn't even in competition with that many Pokemon, only ones that could also fit his criteria, like Clefairy.

It's too weird to think about Pokemon with a different mascot at this point though. O_o

I remember I turned that into a hypothetical conversation once when I was arguing for Meowth. It was like:

What if a different generation of Pokemon was the first generation? Like if Hoenn was the first generation of Pokemon? Going by the same criteria, Ralts would probably be Ash's starter, and thus Ralts would be the Pokemon mascot and the first playable Pokemon of SSB.

...Something like that.

 

[Morbi]

I remember I turned that into a hypothetical conversation once when I was arguing for Meowth. It was like:

What if a different generation of Pokemon was the first generation? Like if Hoenn was the first generation of Pokemon? Going by the same criteria, Ralts would probably be Ash's starter, and thus Ralts would be the Pokemon mascot and the first playable Pokemon of SSB.

...Something like that.

Yeah. Or if we went with the 4th gen it would be Piplup. I wouldn't really mind a playable Piplup too much.

 

[Chandeelure]

WTF! WFT FTW!

 

[Zhadgon]

So guys thinking in the future if we get a 5th third party rep for Smash who will be?
We have:
Sega: Sonic
Konami: Snake
Capcom: Mega Man
Namco: Pac-Man (probably 30% of getting to smash)

Which companies are left to be added and which mascots will be added for each company?

.n_n.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Why are people still bringing up N64 logo?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Level-5's Professor Layton.

 

[?????????????]

Yeah. Or if we went with the 4th gen it would be Piplup. I wouldn't really mind a playable Piplup too much.

Nah, Piplup is a starter. Maybe Shinx or Pachirisu. OOH, or Buizel. Yeah.

 

[Morbi]

So guys thinking in the future if we get a 5th third party rep for Smash who will be?
We have:
Sega: Sonic
Konami: Snake
Capcom: Mega Man
Namco: Pac-Man (probably 30% of getting to smash)

Which companies are left to be added and which mascots will be added for each company?

.n_n.

I honestly don't believe that we will ever get a 5th 3rd party rep. There aren't really many important video game icons after that. We would pretty much have all of the essentials. I honestly think that Tails would get in before a 5th company gets in. However, I will answer with Geno next. Simply because of his staggering popularity (I don't even know why he is popular).

 

[Johnknight1]

The thing about supporting WTF characters... It goes against the whole idea of having a WTF character in the first place if there's no shock-value to it. In other words, all this talk of supporting folks like Sheriff and Diskun is rather silly when we'd already see them coming.

Game & Watch, having no basis for us to guess his appearance.

Over 50 million games sold, and being the Godfather of Games' first character.

As for the Wii Fit Trainer, the 40 million plus copies sold should be enough of an indicator. If I had ever played Wii Fit and knew there was a Wii Fit Trainer, I would have brought it up back in the day when people argued whether there would be 2, 3, or 4 Kid Icarus characters!!!

 

[TheLastJinjo]

So guys thinking in the future if we get a 5th third party rep for Smash who will be?
We have:
Sega: Sonic
Konami: Snake
Capcom: Mega Man
Namco: Pac-Man (probably 30% of getting to smash)

Which companies are left to be added and which mascots will be added for each company?

.n_n.

Square Enix: Nobody.

 

[Morbi]

Nah, Piplup is a starter. Maybe Shinx or Pachirisu. OOH, or Buizel. Yeah.

Piplup replaced Poliwhirl as the mascot of the Tokyo Pokemon Company or whatever. I don't think that the rules would have applied if Gen 4 was our first Gen. That is just me though.

Why are people still bringing up N64 logo?

They will never cut you a break.

Level-5's Professor Layton.

Never mind. I change my answer to this.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Square Enix: Nobody.

 

[?????????????]

Square Enix: Nobody.

I would say Cloud Strife is the clear-cut choice, IF ONLY he ever had an important role in a Nintendo game.

Maybe, JUST MAYBE, he isn't completely out...? But I certainly wouldn't expect him.

 

[Autumn ♫]

That's not true. After he became the mascot he was advertised and recurring in all the games. Meowth wasn't. Pikachu even got his own game and was the main character of all the spin off Pokemon titles.

Also, all of those Pokemon besides Jigglypuff are popular and iconic outside the anime.

Well, who else do you think would have been advertised besides the mascot? It'd be wierd if someone else was.
Lucario also got alot of popularity from his movie, along with Mewtwo, who was somewhat popular already, being kind of like a Final Boss.

 

[N3ON]

I remember I turned that into a hypothetical conversation once when I was arguing for Meowth. It was like:

What if a different generation of Pokemon was the first generation? Like if Hoenn was the first generation of Pokemon? Going by the same criteria, Ralts would probably be Ash's starter, and thus Ralts would be the Pokemon mascot and the first playable Pokemon of SSB.

...Something like that.

Because Gardevoir needs even more attention.

But to be serious, yeah it would be quite interesting. For Gen II it'd probably be like... Aipom or something.

Nah, Piplup is a starter. Maybe Shinx or Pachirisu. OOH, or Buizel. Yeah.

I doubt we would've gotten any of those Pikachu knock-offs without the original electric rodent. Or at very least we wouldn't get a token one every gen.

 

[Morbi]

He's only a little flatter than Starfy. He can also spin and sidewalk when moving.



That's not true. After he became the mascot he was advertised and recurring in all the games. Meowth wasn't. Pikachu even got his own game and was the main character of all the spin off Pokemon titles.

Also, all of those Pokemon besides Jigglypuff are popular and iconic outside the anime.

Jigglypuff is iconic outside of the anime. She is one of the original 12 in a very popular gaming franchise. You might have heard of it. Does... "Smash" ring a bell?

 

[Curious Villager]

Level-5's Professor Layton.

As much as I want to agree with you BluePikmin, by the time smash 5 rolls around the Layton Franchise would most likely be done and dusted.... Unless Level-5 decides to do a sequel trilogy for the series which means Layton would probably still be fresh in many peoples minds by that time... I honestly feel that his best chance is right now with Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS... :/

 

[Johnknight1]

Roster 4. Would rather not have Plusle and Minun or Cranky Kong.

Strange. In the first roster I thought I remember having Samurai Goroh, Isaac, Krystal in over Plusle and Minun.

In the fourth roster, I thought I had Wart in over Plusle and Minun.

@John
They're all terrible. Four rosters and no Isaac. What's wrong with you?

He was the last character cut in the first and fourth roster.

 

[BluePikmin11]

As much as I want to agree with you BluePikmin, by the time smash 5 rolls around the Layton Franchise would most likely be done and dusted.... Unless Level-5 decides to do a sequel trilogy for the series which means Layton would probably still be fresh in many peoples minds by that time... I honestly feel that his best chance is right now with Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS... :/

That's why I think Layton should replace Snake or become the 5th third party. Layton has such of a close relationship to Nintendo, it makes sense to add him now in Smash 4 while he has the chance.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

There has to be some people who knew ROB would get in. Like not even that small of a group of people.

 

[Morbi]

There has to be some people who knew ROB would get in. Like not even that small of a group of people.

I knew R.O.B would get in, all of the R.O.B's in Subspace Emissary gave it away.

 

[N3ON]

There has to be some people who knew ROB would get in. Like not even that small of a group of people.

Lots of people got discouraged when he was confirmed as a generic enemy in the SSE. Don't think too many people were expecting him before then anyway though.

 

[8-peacock-8]

So guys thinking in the future if we get a 5th third party rep for Smash who will be?
We have:
Sega: Sonic
Konami: Snake
Capcom: Mega Man
Namco: Pac-Man (probably 30% of getting to smash)

Which companies are left to be added and which mascots will be added for each company?

.n_n.

The moment where you want to say Bomberman but then you remember that Hudson was absorbed into Konami.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The moment where you want to say Bomberman but then you remember that Hudson was absorbed into Konami.

And the moment where you want an Atlus character in Smash, but then you remember Sega owns Atlus now.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I knew R.O.B would get in, all of the R.O.B's in Subspace Emissary gave it away.

Before that.

 

[Curious Villager]

That's why I think Layton should replace Snake or become the 5th third party. Layton has such of a close relationship to Nintendo, it makes sense to add him now in Smash 4 while he has the chance.

While I'm not sure on replacing Snake, I do agree that the series has really close ties with Nintendo and I do really feel that Layton feels right at home with Nintendo's all stars like Megaman for example does. But that honestly depends on Sakurai and Level-5 if they are willing to include him. It would be a shame though, as I do personally feel that Layton deserves to be in Smash Bros. But he got too much competition from a potential Namco rep and Snake's probable return and I doubt Sakurai would want to have 5 third parties in this game... :/

 

[Johnknight1]

Seriously though, probably the first. I want Sukapon, but I want Shulk more.

It is an interesting "choice" there, isn't it=???

One character that could be bonkers in Sukapon, and another that is straight-forward awesome in Shulk.

Still, I don't think it is crazy to say that Shulk is a lot more likely to be playable this time around.

 

[Gune]

And the moment where you want an Atlus character in Smash, but then you remember Sega owns Atlus now.

Junpei Iori for assist trophy!

 

[BluePikmin11]

Junpei Iori for assist trophy!

That would be sorta of a random choice for Sakurai. :\

 

[Gune]

That would be sorta of a random choice for Sakurai. :\

With SMTx fire emblem in development it would make a little sense.... except nobody from the persona games is in that...what ever I love Junpei.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Alright, I'm back
And I have an idea for SE rep.

 

[Morbi]

Alright, I'm back
And I have an idea for SE rep.
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Not going to happen. Final Fantasy 7 rep? Maybe if pigs started to fly. Final Fantasy 1 rep? Not even if Hell froze over.

 

[Zhadgon]

Square Enix: Chocobo + Moogle combo (based in the history of Minun + Plusle not getting in melee, Dixie + Diddy not getting in Brawl (as a tag team)). Maybe this time Sakurai finally can get his second tag team - double characters.

Level-5: Professor Layton

Team Ninja: Ryu Hayabusa

Platinum Games: Bayonetta

Grasshopper: Travis Touchdown

Anyone more?

.n_n.

 

[Gene]

I would say Cloud Strife

I would say pre-order cancelled.

 

[Morbi]

Square Enix: Chocobo + Moogle combo (based in the history of Minun + Plusle not getting in melee, Dixie + Diddy not getting in Brawl (as a tag team)). Maybe this time Sakurai finally can get his second tag team - double characters.

Level-5: Professor Layton

Team Ninja: Ryu Hayabusa

Platinum Games: Bayonetta

Grasshopper: Travis Touchdown

Anyone more?

.n_n.

Activision: Captain Price

In all seriousness, I don't think we will get another tag-team character. Sakurai already cited that he was having problems with Ice Climbers, I don't think his team is going to jump at the opportunity.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

How about Catherine as an Atlus rep?

Anyone? Anyone..... No? Ok.
Am I the only that sees so much moveset potential in the one picture?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Accolade: Bubsy