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Roster Prediction Discussion Thread
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TheLastJinjo
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It's definitely not a feeling I could name.
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1. Just wanna say, Game and Watch, Villager, and WFT were ALL VERY IMPORTANT PARTS OF NINTENDO'S HISTORY. THEY DESERVE TO GET IN. JUST BECAUSE SAKURAI ADDED THEM DOESN'T MEAN HE WILL PUT IN LLOYD. IN FACT, IT MEANS THAT HE IS LOOKING MORE AT THE HISTORY AND SUCCESSES OF NINTENDO RATHER THAN SOME THIRD PARTY CHARACTER.As if Tales would ever have priority over ANY Nintendo franchise.
It's CERTAINLY more popular and important to video game history than Fire Emblem or Earthbound, AND YET HERE THEY ARE. So I don't see why that's a problem. If it's your problem, then it's your problem not mine.
Don't let your preference become your bias like you do with EarthBound. I lmao every time you say EarthBound is not an important Nintendo Franchise just because you hate it.
- You can't have 2 Third-Parties from the same company. HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS (and if we did it'd be Bomberman or Tails not ****ing LLOYD)
- ENOUGH WITH THE MOTHER****ING BOMBERMAN!!!!!
comparing him to Tails is like comparing **** to gold.
- Sakurai doesn't add just ANY third-party character. Lloyd would be "just any third-party character". If the Game and Watch, Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer can get in, then pretty much anybody can. All bets are off the table. Sakurai can pick and choose ANY character he wants because that's what he does. It's Sakurai.
Nope, just acknowledging the absolute truth. I speak only the truth about these matters. If you think Earthbound is a multi-millon dollar selling franchise that rivals Mario and Pokémon, is voted the greatest game of all time, and everybody penis knows what the game is because its the most popular and iconic game in history...... then that's delusional and stupid...
As if Tales would ever have priority over ANY Nintendo franchise.
Lloyd Irving and Pacman are both great characters that would add a lot more than a lot of other characters in Smash (NESS, Marth, Falcon, Jigglypuff, Ice Climbers, etc etc etc...) So why are you so AGAINST them? Sakurai has done the impossible before ilke adding Snake and Sonic or creating the PKMN trainer or what eventually became Melee. He can do the impossible.
2. And if you think Tales has more importance to video-gaming then FIRE EMBLEM OF ALL FRANCHISES and Earthbound, then you're clearly inane. These games, despite not being at the caliber of Pokemon, Mario, or Zelda, are huge parts of NINTENDO'S history. They have earned their place as one of Video Gaming's true treasures.
3. Earthbound isn't popular? Then that didn't stop Sakurai from putting Ness in Smash, and even adding Lucas when Earthbound wasn't even all that relevant anymore.
4. Sure, Lloyd could add something. He has TWO SWORDS. And Pacman is Pacman, who does at some caliber deserves to get in. But thinking that the two should be in in favor of Ness, Marth, CAPTAIN FALCON AND THE ICE CLIMBERS! What?! All of these characters are SO important to video games, their franchises, and most importantly, NINTENDO. Which is something Lloyd is not.
Being a small franchise doesn't make you unpopular and irrelevant. Having no impact on a gaming society does.
TheDivineDeity
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Nothing like a moronic pretends-to-be-stupid-conservative-oh-hahaha Stephen ColBERT gif...^ This post
Why are you running away from me now, Noah? Anytime I confront you with questions,you run away. without answers. Why don't you just answer my questions?
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This is REALLY getting annoying. Noah, Deity, just stop talking to each other. Just please stop. And no bull**** excuses. Stop.
Morbi
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MorbidAltrusim won't stop liking everybody's posts! STAHP!
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I'll give Divine one post to convince me that Tales is more important to Nintendo and should be in a Nintendo All Star game than Fire Emblem and Mother.
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Not a problem, I gave him a treat and he started to behave.
It's as if the mistakes they made before were not learned from, truly a sad sight to behold.
I DEMAND YOU TO LIKE ALL THE THINGS! ONLY YOU HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL SPECIAL!
TheLastJinjo
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Look at this guy! He's replying/directing posts to Divine Deity!
OcarinaOfDoom VS DIVINE DEITY!
Just stahp it you too.
KingofPhantoms
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MorbidAltruism can't like his own posts.
TumblrFamous
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Then I guess we have to like his for him!MorbidAltruism can't like his own posts.
Morbi
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We need to change the dynamics of the forums. People should be able to like their own posts. That is a fundamental flaw with SmashBoards. I hope this issue is addressed at once!MorbidAltruism can't like his own posts.
Rebellious Treecko
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...What happened to RebelliousDeity? (Treecko x Divine)SaturnGamer64 x TheDivineDeity is my OTP!
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TumblrFamous
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I'd like to see this. Having a small different opinion from others is fine, but completely debasing not one but two franchises is simply ignorant and abhorrent.
BluePikmin11
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Besides, didn't Sakurai say Namco characters don't get lots of priority for Smash 4. It's best we have only one Namco character.
TheDivineDeity
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- Because it's an extremely high-profile RPG in Japan, only behind Dragon quest and FINAL FANTASY. Not Fire Emblem. Not the niche nobody-knows-what-the-****-this-is Earthbound. TALES SERIES.
- The Tales series has just as much, actually it has MORE games than Fire emblem - 14 to 13.
- Lloyd Irving has GREAT potential movesets and abilities. He would fit like a glove in the Smashverse. I mean if Ness could, anybody can.
- Tales series sells well. Fire Emblem does not (except for FEW games) and Earthbound BOMBS BADLY in its extremely low sales.
- It has several spin-offs that became successful.
There you have it. Absolutely logical, cannot be countered, IRREFUTABLE evidence that Tales is better to Nintendo than Fire Emblem and Earthbound. It can't be refuted. It just can't be. Of course the critics will pretend otherwise, but we know better. You all know I'm right in this - I mean even if you don't agree with me elsewhere, you have to agree with me here... you all know this is true.
KingofPhantoms
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BluePikmin11
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This game is about Nintendo characters right? A celebration of Nintendo characters.- Because it's an extremely high-profile RPG in Japan, only behind Dragon quest and FINAL FANTASY. Not Fire Emblem. Not the niche nobody-knows-what-the-****-this-is Earthbound. TALES SERIES.
- The Tales series has just as much, actually it has MORE games than Fire emblem - 14 to 13.
- Lloyd Irving has GREAT potential movesets and abilities. He would fit like a glove in the Smashverse. I mean if Ness could, anybody can.
- Tales series sells well. Fire Emblem does not (except for FEW games) and Earthbound BOMBS BADLY in its extremely low sales.
- It has several spin-offs that became successful.
There you have it. Absolutely logical, cannot be countered, IRREFUTABLE evidence that Tales is better to Nintendo than Fire Emblem and Earthbound. It can't be refuted. It just can't be. Of course the critics will pretend otherwise, but we know better. You all know I'm right in this - I mean even if you don't agree with me elsewhere, you have to agree with me here... you all know this is true.
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Shokio, is that you?
FinalStarmen
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- Because it's an extremely high-profile RPG in Japan, only behind Dragon quest and FINAL FANTASY. Not Fire Emblem. Not the niche nobody-knows-what-the-****-this-is Earthbound. TALES SERIES.
- The Tales series has just as much, actually it has MORE games than Fire emblem - 14 to 13.
- Lloyd Irving has GREAT potential movesets and abilities. He would fit like a glove in the Smashverse. I mean if Ness could, anybody can.
- Tales series sells well. Fire Emblem does not (except for FEW games) and Earthbound BOMBS BADLY in its extremely low sales.
- It has several spin-offs that became successful.
There you have it. Absolutely logical, cannot be countered, IRREFUTABLE evidence that Tales is better to Nintendo than Fire Emblem and Earthbound. It can't be refuted. It just can't be. Of course the critics will pretend otherwise, but we know better. You all know I'm right in this - I mean even if you don't agree with me elsewhere, you have to agree with me here... you all know this is true.
Yet here we are, with the Fire Emblem and Mother series safely occupying their own respective representation within the Super Smash Brothers series... while Tales has yet to do so. Precedence.
Baskerville
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Retconned for an eternity.
TheLastJinjo
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Don't worry, guys. I only argue with him a little bit for the entertainment until he becomes bias and then I stop. I know better then to spam the thread with too much DD feeding.
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Wait, just ONE more post. I promise I won't respond to his reply!
(I think you forgot this is a NINTENDO fighting game. Not a Video Game Fighting Game)
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Wait, just ONE more post. I promise I won't respond to his reply!
EarthBound and Fire Emblem are Nintendo series (very well received ones at that). Thus they are more important than Tales by 100%. Irrefutable bull **** has been refuted!
(I think you forgot this is a NINTENDO fighting game. Not a Video Game Fighting Game)
Not a problem, I gave him a treat and he started to behave.
MorbidAltruism can't like his own posts.
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We need dozens of GTA and COD characters in Smash.
Those series are better to Nintendo than most Nintendo series. Completely unrefutable.
Anyone who says otherwise are deluded. Because everyone knows I'm right.
Try to prove me wrong, you'll look stupid.
Those series are better to Nintendo than most Nintendo series. Completely unrefutable.
Anyone who says otherwise are deluded. Because everyone knows I'm right.
Try to prove me wrong, you'll look stupid.
TheDivineDeity
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Who?Shokio, is that you?
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KingofPhantoms
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Some sources for the Fire Emblem sales would be nice.
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The irrefutable logic would actually have to entail that Tales actually belonged to Nintendo. It isn't necessarily important to Nintendo on the same level as Fire Emblem because they don't own it. Not to mention Sakurai has a hard-on for Mother. So Earthbound is more important to Sora Ltd. Which means ultimately Lloyd won't make it in the game. I know you are arguing that he is important to Nintendo as opposed to... the developers of the game we are discussing. I just think that it is irrational to assume that he will make it in the game based on sales. We also have to remember that Fire Emblem is bigger in the West than Tales. So it isn't like it is universally popular. Just in Japan. I don't really know why I am disagreeing. I hate Lloyd. So don't mind me.- Because it's an extremely high-profile RPG in Japan, only behind Dragon quest and FINAL FANTASY. Not Fire Emblem. Not the niche nobody-knows-what-the-****-this-is Earthbound. TALES SERIES.
- The Tales series has just as much, actually it has MORE games than Fire emblem - 14 to 13.
- Lloyd Irving has GREAT potential movesets and abilities. He would fit like a glove in the Smashverse. I mean if Ness could, anybody can.
- Tales series sells well. Fire Emblem does not (except for FEW games) and Earthbound BOMBS BADLY in its extremely low sales.
- It has several spin-offs that became successful.
There you have it. Absolutely logical, cannot be countered, IRREFUTABLE evidence that Tales is better to Nintendo than Fire Emblem and Earthbound. It can't be refuted. It just can't be. Of course the critics will pretend otherwise, but we know better. You all know I'm right in this - I mean even if you don't agree with me elsewhere, you have to agree with me here... you all know this is true.
TumblrFamous
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BREAKDOWN WITH RONALD JAMES LEVINSON (YES. I USED MY NAME. NOW DD CAN CALL ME RONALD J. LEVINSON IF HE WANTED WHEN HE'S ANGRY):- Because it's an extremely high-profile RPG in Japan, only behind Dragon quest and FINAL FANTASY. Not Fire Emblem. Not the niche nobody-knows-what-the-****-this-is Earthbound. TALES SERIES.
- The Tales series has just as much, actually it has MORE games than Fire emblem - 14 to 13.
- Lloyd Irving has GREAT potential movesets and abilities. He would fit like a glove in the Smashverse. I mean if Ness could, anybody can.
- Tales series sells well. Fire Emblem does not (except for FEW games) and Earthbound BOMBS BADLY in its extremely low sales.
- It has several spin-offs that became successful.
There you have it. Absolutely logical, cannot be countered, IRREFUTABLE evidence that Tales is better to Nintendo than Fire Emblem and Earthbound. It can't be refuted. It just can't be. Of course the critics will pretend otherwise, but we know better. You all know I'm right in this - I mean even if you don't agree with me elsewhere, you have to agree with me here... you all know this is true.
1. So if it's behind Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy, who are overall more important to VIDEO GAMES than Tales, then why wouldn't we get them?
2. Yeah... they have more. So... what does that have to do with Nintendo? Regardless of who is on whose console, Fire Emblem is a Nintendo franchise. Therefore, it has more priority than Tales. By the way, if we have seen Fire Emblem in 3 out of the 4 games, then why hasn't Lloyd made an appearance? I mean, clearly he is much more of an important character than *gasp* Marth and Ike.
3. Entirely subjective. Anyone can have a great moveset and potential for one. If they can make a toy Robot a valid player, then I think anyone can be done.
4. Sales doesn't really matter that much. If it mattered, then we wouldn't have Earthbound, would we? No, I don't think so.
5. Yeah, because spinoffs that have no or little value to Nintendo are really important, even moreso than the consistent popular Fire Emblem.
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Sorry, it's just that incredibly arrogant group of words reminded me of a certain laughing stock of a Smash Speculator.
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B****SaturnGamer64 x TheDivineDeity is my OTP!
SaturnGamerxHotfeet and DivinexGolden 4 life.
TheLastJinjo
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I think that was more of a compliment, not an insultShokio, is that you?
TheDivineDeity
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That's not what I said but okay then fine by me. Put words into my mouth as you always do. Make false accusations about me, or make false statements about what I said. Alight then. I see how it is in these forums. I see.....
Are you still mad at me GoldenYu
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Sakurai.... release the game so this speculating will be over. Or just put a caption over a totally irrelevant picture that says: "LLOYD IRVING WILL NOT BE IN THE GAME."
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you can count both. I'm saying there's no problem with slots, just keep in mind transformations. If there are slots, you should know how many are transformations and how many there are per transformation.
Doesn't really matter to me. I usually keep in mind how many characters I have regardless or that are in a roster regardless.
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tldr: are you kidding me?- Because it's an extremely high-profile RPG in Japan, only behind Dragon quest and FINAL FANTASY. Not Fire Emblem. Not the niche nobody-knows-what-the-****-this-is Earthbound. TALES SERIES. It's also behind Pokemon. That's a thing. And if sales automatically means characters, where is our MonHun rep? 2 million units in Japan in it's first week, no Tales game is even close to that
- The Tales series has just as much, actually it has MORE games than Fire emblem - 14 to 13. How many of these are on a Nintendo console? CoD has like 19 games, so is it important to Nintendo?
- Lloyd Irving has GREAT potential movesets and abilities. He would fit like a glove in the Smashverse. I mean if Ness could, anybody can. A lot of characters have moveset potential.
- Tales series sells well. Fire Emblem does not (except for FEW games) and Earthbound BOMBS BADLY in its extremely low sales. Awakening's sold better than most Tales games have.
- It has several spin-offs that became successful. WHOOP DE DOO SPIN OFFS
There you have it. Absolutely logical, cannot be countered, IRREFUTABLE evidence that Tales is better to Nintendo than Fire Emblem and Earthbound. It can't be refuted. It just can't be. Of course the critics will pretend otherwise, but we know better. You all know I'm right in this - I mean even if you don't agree with me elsewhere, you have to agree with me here... you all know this is true.
Morbi
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I think he was just pointing out that just because a game does good on a certain console doesn't make it important to that console. For instance, Call of Duty isn't important to Xbox. It sells much more on Xbox, but if Xbox made and Xbox fighting game, Call of Duty characters wouldn't get in over Halo characters. That is basically what you implied. Essentially Lloyd sells better in Japan than a Fire Emblem character. However, Lloyd isn't Nintendo. So he isn't going to be prioritized over Nintendo characters.That's not what I said but okay then fine by me. Put words into my mouth as you always do. Make false accusations about me, or make false statements about what I said. Alight then. I see how it is in these forums. I see.....
Are you still mad at me GoldenYu
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