Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Shorts]

You call yourself a Roy supporter, and then defend Chrom getting n the game over Roy? Suuurrreee.....

>Being this butthurt over a character who's original game you've probably never played. I've heard it's not that awesome, and Roy is okay at best.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

You call yourself a Roy supporter, and then defend Chrom getting n the game over Roy? Suuurrreee.....

It's called not being biased. Try it for once.

Swamp never said he thinks Roy has less of a chance than Chrom. He just stating Chrom has other things going for him other than relevancy.

 

[Frostwraith]

Do you seriously expect Chrom, a controversial character dividing the entire fanbase, to go over Roy, an extremely popular character who tops almost every popularity poll? Seriously, Chrom makes TINGLE look popular!

If Sakurai and Intelligent systems are not idiots, Roy would be the first choice on their minds, not Chrom.

Back those points with evidence or you're making yourself seem like a fool.

No, I'm pretty confident Roy was added to Melee because IS suggested him. They're a second party, Sakurai pretty much has to get the OK from them. An awakening character will be suggested, to think otherwise is.. Kreay.

I'm not entirely sure if Sakurai did that with Roy. If I recall correctly, it was actually Sakurai that picked Roy as the second FE character for Melee.

Roy is an odd case, since he actually debuted in Melee instead of his home series.

Anyway, it may happen that Sakurai goes to IS for a suggestion and it may happen that IS suggests Chrom, but that doesn't necessarily warrant Chrom as a character.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Roy was planned for Brawl and has a new design. SHOO-IN AND MOST LIKELY NEWCOMER ALONGSIDE LITTLE MAC AND CHROM.

it's either Roy or Chrom, not both of them. Personally I'd choose Roy though.

 

[Reznor]

Then you would be a Chrom fanboy if you support Chrom. Choosing Chrom over Roy IS SUPPORTING one character over another. I'm just saying. It's not like an insult or anything, but don't tell people to stop calling yourself what you are.

just because I support a character doesn't make me a fanboy for said character

Roy was planned for Brawl and has a new design. SHOO-IN AND MOST LIKELY NEWCOMER ALONGSIDE LITTLE MAC AND CHROM.

wait he was gonna get a different move set?
still Fire Sword < stuff other than sword

 

[Autumn ♫]

Then you would be a Chrom fanboy if you support Chrom. Choosing Chrom over Roy IS SUPPORTING one character over another. I'm just saying. It's not like an insult or anything, but don't tell people to stop calling yourself what you are.

Just because you support a character doesn't make you a fanboy of that said character. I support Palutena,but in no way am I a fanboy for her.

 

[Shorts]

it's either Roy or Chrom, not both of them. Personally I'd choose Roy though.

Why?

Tellme10chars

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Then don't put any into mine.

I didn't.

It's right there in what you typed.

I'm not entirely sure if Sakurai did that with Roy. If I recall correctly, it was actually Sakurai that picked Roy as the second FE character for Melee.

From the evidence we have, Sakurai hand picked Roy. I assume we all know the reason.

 

[Louie G.]

I don't know why we're arguing about this.
Do you guys honestly think Roy will come back? He was there to advertise the newest FE game, just like Chrom will do.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

No, I'm pretty confident Roy was added to Melee because IS suggested him. They're a second party, Sakurai pretty much has to get the OK from them. An awakening character will be suggested, to think otherwise is.. Kreay.



True, but look at the other two options. Lady Marth, and Fire Marth. Plus we know Sakurai thinks "clones" are unique enough.

Tharja/Eirika/Micaiah/Lyn/Hector/Caeda/Black Knight/anyone not lame as **** plz.

That is also a possibility. I hope that if they do include Chrom, they will try and go the Ile route and give him (at least) a semi-cloned move set.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

WII SPORTS WAS THE BEST SELLING VIDEO GAME OF ALL TIME WE NEED A WII SPORTS CHARACTER.

The success argument is stupid. FE6 was the revival of the franchise, so Roy should be in Smash Bros. YAY

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm a fanboy of Anna :3

 

[Autumn ♫]

I don't know why we're arguing about this.
Do you guys honestly think Roy will come back? He was there to advertise the newest FE game, just like Chrom will do.

That's not the only reason why he was in though.

 

[TumblrFamous]

just because I support a character doesn't make me a fanboy for said character

I agree. I think it's more of a "I don't care who gets in but I'd rather have one over the other".

Kinda like how I feel with, say, Lucario and Jigglypuff. If, for the slightest reason, one of them could be cut (not knowing which), I would choose Lucario over Jigglypuff due to his uniqueness as a fighter. I don't love Lucario and I don't hate Jiggz, but it's basically choice. You don't have to be a fan to support a character (in fact, I don't really care for Ridley that much).

 

[Deleted member]

So, we go from the Sheriff topic back to Roy vs. Chrom Fun Time.


.....WTF guys. WTF.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Guys, IS has an unannounced Wii U game, and if it's a FE game, I think it does affect Smash 4. If Sakurai started Smash when KI:U ended, and there was a 3 month span between Uprising and Awakening's launch, who knows when (or if) Sakurai went to IS for suggestions. For all we know, this is the somewhat hinted at FE6 remake and Roy is in Smash 4. Then again, this could be something non-FE related and not affect Smash at all.

I miss it when Intelligent Systems actually talked about Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem...

 

[Louie G.]

That's not the only reason why he was in though.

Why else? His game didn't even come out at the time of Melee's release!
The only other reason is because he was easy to make, as he is a clone.

 

[Frostwraith]

From the evidence we have, Sakurai hand picked Roy. I assume we all know the reason, but we have no evidence that IS pushed Roy.

Add to that the fact that Roy was planned for Brawl, it means that Sakurai probably likes Roy as a character.

Also, Roy being in doesn't mean Chrom is out. The two characters aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[kingmario92]

Were the Ice Climbers popular or well-known before Melee?

Also, I thought you were Hotfeet for a second because of your Shantae avatar.

I was being sarcastic you know lol

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Roy was planned for Brawl and has a new design. SHOO-IN AND MOST LIKELY NEWCOMER ALONGSIDE LITTLE MAC AND CHROM.

it's either Roy or Chrom, not both of them. Personally I'd choose Roy though.

>Being this butthurt over a character who's original game you've probably never played. I've heard it's not that awesome, and Roy is okay at best.

It's not called being butthurt over Roy not being in the game, it's called laughing at Chrom fanboy's butthurt over Chrom not being in the game. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of being treated like **** all because I'd rather have Roy over Chrom. It's not just me, it's anybody who supports Roy. They get treated like **** for having a different opinion. Why can't I just support characters I LIKE and leave it at that? I'm not going to stand around and be insulted by Chrom fanboys because I like Roy instead. Hey, maybe I'll like Chrom if he's in the game, who knows. I'm open-minded.. But I want Roy instead because he's a cool character to play as and he didn't deserve to be cut in the first place. Is that so bad?

 

[Hotfeet444]

WII SPORTS WAS THE BEST SELLING VIDEO GAME OF ALL TIME WE NEED A WII SPORTS CHARACTER.

The success argument is stupid. FE6 was the revival of the franchise, so Roy should be in Smash Bros. YAY

Well, people are vouching for Miis.

I don't know why we're arguing about this.
Do you guys honestly think Roy will come back? He was there to advertise the newest FE game, just like Chrom will do.

As of now, I've honestly stopped caring about it. Not only is the Fire Emblem character I actually want not ever getting in, but if I defend either side, I'm either lost in the past or a Chrom fanboy.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I don't recall calling you any names in that last post, but alrighty then. I'm not a troll for being against something for beliefs I don't share with you, however. I don't get how you decide you're a winner of anything either. I judge my victories based on whether I can rally people to my side or not, which my "Shoving it down other people's throats" post seemed to do rather quickly based on likes. I haven't seen many people liking your posts during all of this, which is an easy indication that you made them happy through either a good laugh or an excellent point. And I can tell that you don't believe people would like a post because of how much of a laugh of a bad point it is, because you would have liked a lot of my stuff long ago, wouldn't you? I'm not saying having likes is a measurement of who is right, but I am saying it's a clear measurement of who has the favor of those viewing a given debate.

If you like to consider yourself a winner simply because you have more energy to put into arguing than your opponent, each man to his own, I suppose.

• Again, KingMario92 & Louie G agreed with me as will the Sheriff support thread
• You're not a troll for having different beliefs. You are a troll for ******** about my opinions on Sheriff and making fun of me for my opinions on Semi-Clones
• "A Child throwing a tantrum" is an insult and a hypocritical one at that considering the tantrum you threw about Skyward Sword designs and me continuing to defend Sheriff.

I don't support Chrom because he's recent.

I expect Chrom (partially) because he's recent. Really, SKAURAI ASKS WHAT FE CHARACTERS TO PUT IN SMASH EVERY TIME. Why would he suddenly change? Wait, he won't (and probably needs to get an OK from IS no matter what)Chrom is a worldwide released character of the latest game that saved the franchise. He's in. IS will push him (Or another Awakening character), not Roy. Not Lyn. Those two have the best chance of being added if Sakurai chooses to add them for an outside reason. They will or won't be added regardless of which Awakening character is added. We're getting an Awakening character.

Can we really be sure that IS won't push Roy? The character who got a prequel and may be getting a remake?

 

[Seraphim.]

I don't know why we're arguing about this.
Do you guys honestly think Roy will come back? He was there to advertise the newest FE game, just like Chrom will do.

Roy and Chrom pretty much have equal chances, most give Chrom the edge for being recent. Since Roy was planned for Brawl I think he was more to Sakurai than just an advertisement.

 

[FlareHabanero]

No, I'm pretty confident Roy was added to Melee because IS suggested him. They're a second party.

Oh for ****s sake, please do the ****ing research. Intelligent Systems is a subsidiary of Nintendo, hell the whole company was once apart of Nintendo's Development and Research team.

Why does everyone hate research?

 

[Frostwraith]

Bloody hell, this thread is getting venomous...

it's either Roy or Chrom, not both of them. Personally I'd choose Roy though.

The two characters aren't mutually exclusive. If Sakurai decides, he may add Roy AND Chrom as he damn pleases.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Why?

Tellme10chars

I want my roster to have Marth, Ike, and Roy. If we can only have one other Fire Emblem character (they don't deserve to be over represented), I want Roy.

If there's 4 Fire emblem characters I'd want Lyn or the Black Knight as the 4th one. But that ain't happening.

 

[Shorts]

The success argument is stupid. FE6 was the revival of the franchise, so Roy should be in Smash Bros. YAY

I agree with you, on every single franchise, but Pokemon and Fire Emblem. Sakurai DOES have final say, but he's not going to say "lolno" to either second parties suggestion. Otherwise, I would agree.

But, Roy could still be added regardless of what Awakening character is added. He was going to be in Brawl despite Ike being included. Four FE charaters isn't crazy. Hell, four characters from like 90% of the franchises in Smash isn't crazy. Most have enough well established characters in their series to have four included. Maybe not IC's, or Yoshi, but most others do.

 

[Louie G.]

Roy and Chrom pretty much have equal chances, most give Chrom the edge for being recent. Since Roy was planned for Brawl I think he was more to Sakurai than just an advertisement.

That's not true at all. Roy has a far less shot than Chrom. I know recency is not something people like to hear about, but they are in denial if they don't think that's what influenced Roy and Ike. Chrom has an edge over all FE characters for the same reason.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Back those points with evidence or you're making yourself seem like a fool.



I'm not entirely sure if Sakurai did that with Roy. If I recall correctly, it was actually Sakurai that picked Roy as the second FE character for Melee.

Roy is an odd case, since he actually debuted in Melee instead of his home series.

Anyway, it may happen that Sakurai goes to IS for a suggestion and it may happen that IS suggests Chrom, but that doesn't necessarily warrant Chrom as a character.

Sakurai has to go to IS though. When looking at the development stages for both Smash and PSASBR, both directors commented on how difficult it can be to include character. They have to work together with the company that owns the character. Nintendo might have it easier than Sony but I imagine that Sakurai has to go to the Mario team about how Mario could work.

Edit: My bad. IS is first party.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I need more arguments for my Nikki thread please.

 

[Frostwraith]

Oh for ****s sake, please do the ****ing research. Intelligent Systems is a subsidiary of Nintendo, hell the whole company was once apart of Nintendo's Development and Research team.

THIS!

IntSys is not a second party. They are wholly owned by Nintendo. Hell, they were the designers of the Game Boy consoles!

Why does everyone hate research?

Because people are lazy, ignorant and close-minded. There I said it.

 

[Shorts]

Oh for ****s sake, please do the ****ing research. Intelligent Systems is a subsidiary of Nintendo, hell the whole company was once apart of Nintendo's Development and Research team.

Why does everyone hate research?

They're not a second party then, doesn't change that they suggest **** to Sakurai.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

It's not called being butthurt over Roy not being in the game, it's called laughing at Chrom fanboy's butthurt over Chrom not being in the game. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of being treated like **** all because I'd rather have Roy over Chrom. It's not just me, it's anybody who supports Roy. They get treated like **** for having a different opinion. Why can't I just support characters I LIKE and leave it at that? I'm not going to stand around and be insulted by Chrom fanboys because I like Roy instead. Hey, maybe I'll like Chrom if he's in the game, who knows. I'm open-minded.. But I want Roy instead because he's a cool character to play as and he didn't deserve to be cut in the first place. Is that so bad?

Divine.

It's not the fact that you support Roy that has people upset.

It's that fact that you demonize and attack the opposition. Chrom isn't some demon from hell. He's just a character that people like. They don't deserved to be insulted or ridiculed.

IS is a different case since its a 2nd party developer. Same as Game Freak. It's entirely possible that they have more say than a 1st party developer.

IS is a first party company.


Funny, wasn't there a FE debate like this two nights ago?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

It's not called being butthurt over Roy not being in the game, it's called laughing at Chrom fanboy's butthurt over Chrom not being in the game. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of being treated like **** all because I'd rather have Roy over Chrom.

And they're sick of being treated like **** all because they'd rather have Chrom over Roy. Don't post that tears comment and complain YOU are being treated like ****.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Well, people are vouching for Miis.



As of now, I've honestly stopped caring about it. Not only is the Fire Emblem character I actually want not ever getting in, but if I defend either side, I'm either lost in the past or a Chrom fanboy.

No, you either want a character because you like the character (Roy) or you expect a character because of recency (Chrom). That's how the debate is nowadays. SMH...

 

[Louie G.]

Funny, wasn't there a FE debate like this two nights ago?

This happens every day Swampasaur.

 

[Autumn ♫]

If we must have an Awakening character I think it should be Robin, for the sake of being as important as Chrom and can be a different fighter than the rest of the FE group or Lucina, who is actually more promoted than Chrom and as important as Chrom in Awakening and is tied for the most popular Lord in a poll(I'll show you if I can find it)

 

[TumblrFamous]

It's not called being butthurt over Roy not being in the game, it's called laughing at Chrom fanboy's butthurt over Chrom not being in the game. Seriously, I'm sick and tired of being treated like **** all because I'd rather have Roy over Chrom. It's not just me, it's anybody who supports Roy. They get treated like **** for having a different opinion. Why can't I just support characters I LIKE and leave it at that? I'm not going to stand around and be insulted by Chrom fanboys because I like Roy instead. Hey, maybe I'll like Chrom if he's in the game, who knows. I'm open-minded.. But I want Roy instead because he's a cool character to play as and he didn't deserve to be cut in the first place. Is that so bad?

ALRIGHT. THEY'RE ALL FINE CHOICES. CHROM IS COOL, ROY IS COOL. BOTH ARE WORTHY TO BE IN THE NEXT SMASH, AND THE DECISION IS UP TO SAKURAI: TAKE THE MELEE VET THAT WAS PLANNED IN 2 OUT OF THE 3 GAMES, OR GO FOR A NEW CHARACTER, AND A POPULAR ONE THAT INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS WOULD MOST LIKELY ADVOCATE IF ASKED.

Not picking on you, but basically the whole argument. Jesus Christ people, it's fine to have opinions, but really? Roy fans are getting butthurt at the whole MUH RECENCY **** while Chrom fans are ****ting on Roy fans for simply liking him. Both sides are hypocritical.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I love when the thread gets mad and entertaining. Keep it up.

As for Chrom and Roy, I think Chrom is more likely at times, but I personally hope both make it in.

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[Reznor]

Divine.

It's not the fact that you support Roy that has people upset.

It's that fact that you demonize and attack the opposition. Chrom isn't some demon from hell. He's just a character that people like. They don't deserved to be insulted or ridiculed.


Funny, wasn't there a FE debate like this two nights ago?

yup FE then Sheriff then FE again
3 days of this