Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TumblrFamous]

You mean how everybody who supports Chrom only does it because he's recent? Seriously ask any of them why they want Chrom and they'll tell you because he's a main character from the most recent game. Do you know how many people go around saying he'll replace Ike or that Roy won't get in because of MUH RECENCY? I don't know but I want characters I care about enough to support them (Marth, Ike, and Roy) and not characters who are only in the game because... you know... they're recent (Chrom and Lucina).

Otherwise, why not just replace Olimar for one of the new guys?

Well, while that is a valid argument, refer to GRC. I too believe that FE and Pokemon can play the "recency" card to a certain extent, as the two of them are always changing characters.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

I think for the most part, that's right. People expect Chrom but don't necessarily like him. I know I don't, at least.

It isn't black and white to simply say Roy is getting in over Chrom, though. They each have their pros and cons. I myself happen to believe Chrom has the advantage over Roy due to recency, which does seem to play a part in Pokemon and Fire Emblem characters. I hope it's not criminal to think so.

Seriously, RECENCY? I don't think that's a major issue. Again, otherwise Olimar would have been replaced by Louie or some other character from Pikmin 3. Yet, Olimar is still here. Recency doesn't mean everything. besides, Roy's not irrelevant, he is in Chrom's game and there's rumor that he'll have a game coming out soon. That's just like my take on it, man.

 

[Reznor]

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

People care way too much about sales and relevance, rather then what a character can provide in terms of gameplay and diversity. Hence why I think this "support" for characters like Chrom is incredibly weak.

I heard some one say Chrom isn't limited to only a sword like Roy
Roy also has a good chance of being a clone thats why i'm a Chrom support

 

[TheLastJinjo]

You mean how everybody who supports Chrom only does it because he's recent?

I thought "Muh Recency" was like your motto. Regardless you are totally right. Chrom's only merit is recency. Though for Fire Emblem that COULD be a big enough merit.

 

[Frostwraith]

You mean how everybody who supports Chrom only does it because he's recent? Seriously ask any of them why they want Chrom and they'll tell you because he's a main character from the most recent game. Do you know how many people go around saying he'll replace Ike or that Roy won't get in because of MUH RECENCY? I don't know but I want characters I care about enough to support them (Marth, Ike, and Roy) and not characters who are only in the game because... you know... they're recent (Chrom and Lucina).

Otherwise, why not just replace Olimar for one of the new guys?

I'm pretty sure I've seen people that genuinely like the character.

I'm not really a character supporter nowadays and would be content with the entire Brawl cast returning plus Mewtwo, but I wouldn't mind Chrom at all. He's not as bad as people make him out to be. Being recent means nothing to a character's chances, by the way.

Also, generalizations aren't a very plausible arguments in context such as this.

 

[Seraphim.]

I'm going to ENJOY licking the tears of all the Chrom fanboys when my boy Roy gets announced for Smash!!! They're tears will be delicious! DELICIOUS!!!!!

Seriously, why are there so many people that want Chrom on their rosters? I think its only because they EXPECT Chrom, not because they like him or anything.

Look, just so I'm not mistakened, I don't hate Chrom or anything, I just don't see why he should be considered. I'd rather have Roy not because I expect him, but because I WANT Roy. There is a difference between wanting a character and expecting a character. Why can't we just WANT characters?

I have nothing against Chrom or his supporters but I will admit I would love to see the reaction of some users here if Roy gets confirmed. There are some who actually like Chrom though.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Seriously, RECENCY? I don't think that's a major issue. Again, otherwise Olimar would have been replaced by Louie or some other character from Pikmin 3. Yet, Olimar is still here. Recency doesn't mean everything. besides, Roy's not irrelevant, he is in Chrom's game and there's rumor that he'll have a game coming out soon. That's just like my take on it, man.

Rumors are not valid, so that's not a very good point. But I still say that the two franchises that can play the recency card are Pokemon and Fire Emblem. That's my own opinion, but I think it's all but confirmed that Pokemon are kinda in the recency boat with the interview Sakurai made.

 

[Hotfeet444]

NO MY DRILL IS THE DRILL THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS

also Roy>Chrom come at me

WELL LET'S GO OUR SEPERATE WAYS! LET'S SEE WHO FINDS AN INTELLIGENT TOPIC FIRST! I GUARANTEE YOU, NO MATTER WHO FINDS IT FIRST, IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE!

No seriously, these past pages have made my urge to murder rise...very highly.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I'm going to ENJOY licking the tears of all the Chrom fanboys when my boy Roy gets announced for Smash!!! They're tears will be delicious! DELICIOUS!!!!!

Seriously, why are there so many people that want Chrom on their rosters? I think its only because they EXPECT Chrom, not because they like him or anything.

Look, just so I'm not mistakened, I don't hate Chrom or anything, I just don't see why he should be considered. I'd rather have Roy not because I expect him, but because I WANT Roy. There is a difference between wanting a character and expecting a character. Why can't we just WANT characters?

I love Roy too.

Chrom Supporters? I believe they like to be called "Stupid People"?

JK. But still.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Go speak with KingMario92, Louie G (who are on this page) and then the rest of the Sheriff support page. After you're done with that stop your *****ing and name calling. I only unignored you because I'm dumb enough to give second chances to people who are pure trolls just because "He's a nice guy if you get to know him agree with every goddamn thing he say." You are a child, because you troll people for stuff like being okay with Semi-Clones, supporting their opinions and ideas, and just outright not stopping when you want regardless that you never asked. How about "I respect your opinion, but disagree entirely. Let's please move on to another subject." That would be the non-childish way you ****ing hypocrite. That's why I had you on ignore and very likely will again. You don't attempt to redeem your ways.

But, I'll just drop this now, because you're gonna ***** if I don't.

I don't recall calling you any names in that last post, but alrighty then. I'm not a troll for being against something for beliefs I don't share with you, however. I don't get how you decide you're a winner of anything either. I judge my victories based on whether I can rally people to my side or not, which my "Shoving it down other people's throats" post seemed to do rather quickly based on likes. I haven't seen many people liking your posts during all of this, which is an easy indication that you made them happy through either a good laugh or an excellent point. And I can tell that you don't believe people would like a post because of how much of a laugh of a bad point it is, because you would have liked a lot of my stuff long ago, wouldn't you? I'm not saying having likes is a measurement of who is right, but I am saying it's a clear measurement of who has the favor of those viewing a given debate.

If you like to consider yourself a winner simply because you have more energy to put into arguing than your opponent, each man to his own, I suppose.

And you're damn right about that last bit. Thank you.

 

[Shorts]

I don't support Chrom because he's recent.

I expect Chrom (partially) because he's recent. Really, SKAURAI ASKS WHAT FE CHARACTERS TO PUT IN SMASH EVERY TIME. Why would he suddenly change? Wait, he won't (and probably needs to get an OK from IS no matter what)Chrom is a worldwide released character of the latest game that saved the franchise. He's in. IS will push him (Or another Awakening character), not Roy. Not Lyn. Those two have the best chance of being added if Sakurai chooses to add them for an outside reason. They will or won't be added regardless of which Awakening character is added. We're getting an Awakening character.

 

[Frostwraith]

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

People care way too much about sales and relevance, rather then what a character can provide in terms of gameplay and diversity. Hence why I think this "support" for characters like Chrom is incredibly weak.

Spouting MUH RECENCY all the time isn't going to further validate your point.

I am well aware that most of Chrom's support is based on recency and expectation rather than any actual popularity, so I don't know where you're coming with your "truth hurts" statement.

 

[Arcanir]

You can try, but you'll need to catch me first! And that speed cut isn't going to save you now! >:3

Aha, I may have lost some speed, but you still can't move fast in a Sandstorm can you? I'll blind you and take you to justice!

No seriously, are we going back to Fire Emblem discussions? Jesus, and I thought we'd hit rock bottom in the last pages...START THE DRILLS! WE MUST GO DEEPER!

It's not deep enough! Man the helms! DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!

Seriously though, Medeus for SSB4!

 

[Xhampi]

The Black Knight is one of the most important in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn.


If you liked Sacred Stones, you should try Awakening too, since it has similar mechanics, such as a world map and branched promotions.

I don't even remember anything outside that I was horribly bad and the missions with the fog >.<

I will probably give it another try, but that will have to wait until I'm done with Pokemon X & Y.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

I heard some one say Chrom isn't limited to only a sword like Roy
Roy also has a good chance of being a clone thats why i'm a Chrom support

And Chrom can't be a Marth clone or semi-clone??? Roy can EASILY change his moveset, it's not like if Sakurai brought him back Roy will stay the same.

Why is the logic of all Chrom fanboys like this - Chrom RULES because MUH RECENCY while Roy SUCKS because MUH IRRELEVENCY??? Seriously? CHROM IS PRACTICALLY MARTH!!! If anybody will be a clone of Marth, it's Chrom! How can they NOT be the same, or at least almost the same?!

So what is he supposed to say, that he'd be licking the tears of "some" or "most" Chrom fanboys?

All of them. Or at least the ones who only support Chrom because he's recent.

 

[Chandeelure]

I don't care about Fire Emblem

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Seriously, RECENCY? I don't think that's a major issue. Again, otherwise Olimar would have been replaced by Louie or some other character from Pikmin 3. Yet, Olimar is still here. Recency doesn't mean everything. besides, Roy's not irrelevant, he is in Chrom's game and there's rumor that he'll have a game coming out soon. That's just like my take on it, man.

I never said recency applies all the time every time. I said it does seem to apply to Pokemon and Fire Emblem though, based on our track record for characters and how Sakurai has said he selects characters in the first place based on what Pokemon Company/Intelligent Systems tell him. Beyond those two series, recency doesn't mean much.

Oh, and Olimar is in Pikmin 3 by the way. Not saying you're wrong, just clearing that up.

 

[Shorts]

Neither do I, because the character we're most likely going to get, will be lame.

 

[Frostwraith]

I don't support Chrom because he's recent.

I expect Chrom (partially) because he's recent. Really, SKAURAI ASKS WHAT FE CHARACTERS TO PUT IN SMASH EVERY TIME. Why would he suddenly change? Wait, he won't (and probably needs to get an OK from IS no matter what)Chrom is a worldwide released character of the latest game that saved the franchise. He's in. IS will push him (Or another Awakening character), not Roy. Not Lyn. Those two have the best chance of being added if Sakurai chooses to add them for an outside reason. They will or won't be added regardless of which Awakening character is added. We're getting an Awakening character.

Just because Sakurai asked IS for a suggestion during Brawl's development, that doesn't imply that he will always do that whenever thinking of Fire Emblem characters to put in the game.

As all we know, Roy was intended to be in Brawl. Sakurai could well decide that he's just going with the 3 FE veterans and leave it at that.

 

[Autumn ♫]

The biggest reason why I don't support Chrom is for one, he's bland, but that's my own opinion so it doesn't matter much, and the fact that by the time SSB4 comes out, Awakening will be a 3 year old game and the new FE will probably be coming out soon and it kind of throws the recency argument out the window some.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

I don't support Chrom because he's recent.

I expect Chrom (partially) because he's recent. Really, SKAURAI ASKS WHAT FE CHARACTERS TO PUT IN SMASH EVERY TIME. Why would he suddenly change? Wait, he won't (and probably needs to get an OK from IS no matter what)Chrom is a worldwide released character of the latest game that saved the franchise. He's in. IS will push him (Or another Awakening character), not Roy. Not Lyn. Those two have the best chance of being added if Sakurai chooses to add them for an outside reason. They will or won't be added regardless of which Awakening character is added. We're getting an Awakening character.

Do you seriously expect Chrom, a controversial character dividing the entire fanbase, to go over Roy, an extremely popular character who tops almost every popularity poll? Seriously, Chrom makes TINGLE look popular!

If Sakurai and Intelligent systems are not idiots, Roy would be the first choice on their minds, not Chrom.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You people realize Chrom has a lot more to him then recency right? This is coming from a Roy supporter.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Just because Sakurai asked IS for a suggestion during Brawl's development, that doesn't imply that he will always do that whenever thinking of Fire Emblem characters to put in the game.

As all we know, Roy was intended to be in Brawl. Sakurai could well decide that he's just going with the 3 FE veterans and leave it at that.

The ironic thing is, this could very well happen with Pokemon.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Shortie nailed it.

Chrom is the latest Lord and most likely a character IS will push when asked. I don't have any sources but I recall that Sakurai did go to IS and asked which character to include during Brawls development. There answer was Ike. I am willing to bet that should Sakurai go back, there answer is Chrom.

However, Chrom does have a lot to bring to the table. A fencing based move set and a playing style that is between Marth and Ike - not too fast yet not too slow. While I don't consider him a shoe-in, he is a very likely FE character.

 

[Gune]

We should at least give Ike junio- I mean Chrom a chance stop being so pessimistic.

 

[Shorts]

Just because Sakurai asked IS for a suggestion during Brawl's development, that doesn't imply that he will always do that whenever thinking of Fire Emblem characters to put in the game.

As all we know, Roy was intended to be in Brawl. Sakurai could well decide that he's just going with the 3 FE veterans and leave it at that.

No, I'm pretty confident Roy was added to Melee because IS suggested him. They're a second party, Sakurai pretty much has to get the OK from them. An awakening character will be suggested, to think otherwise is.. Kreay.

However, Chrom does have a lot to bring to the table. A fencing based move set and a playing style that is between Marth and Ike - not too fast yet not too slow. While I don't consider him a shoe-in, he is a very likely FE character.

True, but look at the other two options. Lady Marth, and Fire Marth. Plus we know Sakurai thinks "clones" are unique enough.

Tharja/Eirika/Micaiah/Lyn/Hector/Caeda/Black Knight/anyone not lame as **** plz.

 

[Reznor]

And Chrom can't be a Marth clone or semi-clone??? Roy can EASILY change his moveset, it's not like if Sakurai brought him back Roy will stay the same.

Why is the logic of all Chrom fanboys like this - Chrom RULES because MUH RECENCY while Roy SUCKS because MUH IRRELEVENCY??? Seriously? CHROM IS PRACTICALLY MARTH!!! If anybody will be a clone of Marth, it's Chrom! How can they NOT be the same, or at least almost the same?!

Roy was a clone before and can be again while Chrom is new to smash so he has no past history of being a clone so its more likely Roy would be a clone than Chrom
I never said anything about relevancy all I said was Chroms game sold very well

i'm not a Chrom fanboy i'm not even a Chrom fan but if I had to choose I would pick Chrom over Roy

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Roy vs Chrom again? *sigh*

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

All of them. Or at least the ones who only support Chrom because he's recent.

The vast majority of them could be like that, but I wouldn't say every single individual Chrom fan acts like that.
We aren't robots.

I'm not using the "they're not all like that/there's good and bad in every group/it's just a vocal minority" excuse, though, as I do know that some racial/support/political groups have more bad apples than others.

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[TheDivineDeity]

You people realize Chrom has a lot more to him then recency right? This is coming from a Roy supporter.

You call yourself a Roy supporter, and then defend Chrom getting n the game over Roy? Suuurrreee.....

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Guys, IS has an unannounced Wii U game, and if it's a FE game, I think it does affect Smash 4. If Sakurai started Smash when KI:U ended, and there was a 3 month span between Uprising and Awakening's launch, who knows when (or if) Sakurai went to IS for suggestions. For all we know, this is the somewhat hinted at FE6 remake and Roy is in Smash 4. Then again, this could be something non-FE related and not affect Smash at all.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You call yourself a Roy supporter, and then defend Chrom getting n the game over Roy? Suuurrreee.....

When did I say that Chrom would get in over Roy?

I just said there's more to Chrom than recency.

Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Were supporting Chrom because Awakening is the most successful FE game of all time. That kind of success can easily be celebrated by adding any character from FE:A in Smash.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Roy was a clone before and can be again while Chrom is new to smash so he has no past history of being a clone so its more likely Roy would be a clone than Chrom
I never said anything about relevancy all I said was Chroms game sold very well

i'm not a Chrom fanboy i'm not even a Chrom fan but if I had to choose I would pick Chrom over Roy

Ganondorf confirmed for Captain Falcon clone again.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

Roy was a clone before and can be again while Chrom is new to smash so he has no past history of being a clone so its more likely Roy would be a clone than Chrom
I never said anything about relevancy all I said was Chroms game sold very well

i'm not a Chrom fanboy i'm not even a Chrom fan but if I had to choose I would pick Chrom over Roy

Then you would be a Chrom fanboy if you support Chrom. Choosing Chrom over Roy IS SUPPORTING one character over another. I'm just saying. It's not like an insult or anything, but don't tell people to stop calling yourself what you are.

 

[BKupa666]

Roy was planned for Brawl and has a new design. SHOO-IN AND MOST LIKELY NEWCOMER ALONGSIDE LITTLE MAC AND CHROM.

 

[TheDivineDeity]

When did I say that Chrom would get in over Roy?

I just said there's more to Chrom than recency.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Then don't put any into mine.

 

[NickerBocker]

Chrom or Roy? I support neither because arguments for one can be used for the other for the most part, so arguments just go in circles.

...ANNA ALL THE WAY! :D

 

[Seraphim.]

Can't we just put an end to the Chrom vs Roy debate and wait to see what happens...

 

[BluePikmin11]

Guys, IS has an unannounced Wii U game, and if it's a FE game, I think it does affect Smash 4. If Sakurai started Smash when KI:U ended, and there was a 3 month span between Uprising and Awakening's launch, who knows when (or if) Sakurai went to IS for suggestions. For all we know, this is the somewhat hinted at FE6 remake and Roy is in Smash 4. Then again, this could be something non-FE related and not affect Smash at all.

It's a rumor though, but I hope its an FE game.