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Seriously though, let's talk about Nintendo's Biggest Star:
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I've got a history quiz tomorrow.
Anybody here an expert on Islam?
Hah, history...it one of those times I wish that things like this weren't taught, because when you're in college, planning on becoming a video game developer and animator, I don't need to know the name of the president of a random country two hundred years ago.
 

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Well to be fair, he is called the LEGENDARY Starfy for a reason. I mean, you got to be a badass if you have "legendary" to your name.
 

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Hah, history...it one of those times I wish that things like this weren't taught, because when you're in college, planning on becoming a video game developer and animator, I don't need to know the name of the president of a random country two hundred years ago.
Video game developer and animator...
Teach me your ways Hotfeet.
 

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Video game developer and animator...
Teach me your ways Hotfeet.
Sure, all you need is a 75% average in your grades, several special courses taken, and two years of Art Fundamentals, and then I'll tell you everything. XD

Well to be fair, he is called the LEGENDARY Starfy for a reason. I mean, you got to be a badass if you have "legendary" to your name.
Tell that to the walking Taco:

 

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My money is on Daisy because EVERYONE hates the idea of her being playable and prefers the real Scrappy Doo (Waluigi) over her. At least she appeared in a non-spinoff at least once (Super Mario Land) unlike that lanky purple troll.
 

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First of all I have NEVER seen this post, so excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, princess!
Yep and not only is Chrom the main character, but he's a REAL unit as well. That kind of beats the whole Shop Keeper thing.
Still a minor role compared to every other FE nominee for Smash.
I'm so impressed
I really don't think I do, because she only plays a huge role in that one game in which she is not the main character of and is still out shined by others in said game.
It makes her a good contender, but certainly not a serious one. We'd still have to assume that both Sakurai and Intelligent Systems agree THIS is the character they want to represent and advertise and that they'd both agree that this is the character we want to see playable. She's still not a main character in the series and I feel that's what is important to represent. She most commonly appears as a cameo so I feel that's what she would be in Smash.
Ya need to work on reading things, I even replied to you! If I'm not mistaken I've done this before as well, same scenario, you just completely skipped over my post.
As per your arbitrary declaration of 'real', Anna is just a 'real' a unit as Chrom, how about next time defining 'real' for me? And how about you detail exactly that beats the whole 'shop keeper' thing, which she is more than.
And I must say, a minor role in what? She's certainly a character, all the other units are expendable too, the only units that matter to the story are MU, Chrom, and Lucina, and it's divided between them, so what was once a full game in the spotlight of story for Chrom is only 1/3rd of a game. You should be impressed that IS decided to make her the person to do it, in literally every game it's present, same thing with shops, as well she's in a few menus and a few tutorials. In Awakening itself, she is hardly outshined, she's poured into practically every bit for chris'sake! Oh, you also seem to have ignored this line:
MonK4 said:
Her role is added unto through the DLC you pointed out, many of the episode's stories are heavily influenced by her, and she is also boss in one of them, actually the hardest boss, stats and skill wise, in all of Fire Emblem.
As for your piecemeal strategy, I must commend you, it's a good way to make many minor things stay minor, but when you add them all up, as you agree, it makes her a good contender, and I would contest that good means serious, unless you care to elaborate on what you mean by 'serious'.
MonK4 said:
The fact that IS has kept her throughout all these games in these roles should say something to the effect of "she's not just a cameo" to you.
I want to know your reasons, friend, the meaning of your words, tell me why, not simply what.
 

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Things are really different for Starfy this time around. IMO he's almost a shoe-in.
Well then you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Really the only thing that's changed is he's got a worldwide release, which helps, sure, but it's only one release, which happened four years ago. He's still not among the most popular requests, in the west or Japan, his series, while it has a decent amount of games, hasn't made a huge impact overall, especially recently, and it's still entirely possible Sakurai thinks he isn't a feasible fighter.

He's got a fair shot, and I agree things are different for Starfy this time around, but not nearly enough to put him at the top of any likelihood lists, and hardly enough to call him a shoo-in. Even though his mind can change (obviously it did with Villager) you're literally calling a character Sakurai previously rejected a near "shoo-in". :/
 

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Sure, all you need is a 75% average in your grades, several special courses taken, and two years of Art Fundamentals, and then I'll tell you everything. XD



Tell that to the walking Taco:

Hotfeet, I want to be a video game designer and animator too (more specifically cartoonist).
I liked you before, but now I have tons of respect for you.
 

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Things are really different for Starfy this time around. IMO he's almost a shoe-in.
He's as much as a shoe-in as Shulk, which is not a shoe-in.

Also if someone gets put into the game, that doesn't mean they were always a shoe-in.

The only characters that are shoe-ins are some of the unannounced veterans, like Marth
 

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I don't support Daisy. I support DIHSO.

Don't excite the furries too much. You'll make them do the unspeakable.... something I probably can't say on here.
So, any other topic? Something that isn't a disgusting abomination our parents would be ashamed to read? Anything at all.
Why are you so "Furophobic"?

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He's as much as a shoe-in as Shulk, which is not a shoe-in.

Also if someone gets put into the game, that doesn't mean they were always a shoe-in.

The only characters that are shoe-ins are some of the unannounced veterans, like Marth
You don't consider characters like Little Mac shoo-ins?
I can't really see the game without him at this point.
 

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Ya need to work on reading things, I even replied to you! If I'm not mistaken I've done this before as well, same scenario, you just completely skipped over my post.
As per your arbitrary declaration of 'real', Anna is just a 'real' a unit as Chrom, how about next time defining 'real' for me? And how about you detail exactly that beats the whole 'shop keeper' thing, which she is more than.
Real would mean you're a unit during REAL gameplay and not a tutorial.

And I must say, a minor role in what? She's certainly a character, all the other units are expendable too, the only units that matter to the story are MU, Chrom, and Lucina, and it's divided between them, so what was once a full game in the spotlight of story for Chrom is only 1/3rd of a game. You should be impressed that IS decided to make her the person to do it, in literally every game it's present, same thing with shops, as well she's in a few menus and a few tutorials. In Awakening itself, she is hardly outshined, she's poured into practically every bit for chris'sake!
We get it, she shows her face a lot. She's still not a lord or a good selling point for Smash.

As for your piecemeal strategy, I must commend you, it's a good way to make many minor things stay minor, but when you add them all up, as you agree, it makes her a good contender, and I would contest that good means serious, unless you care to elaborate on what you mean by 'serious'.
Having several minor roles doesn't necessarily make one major role. Story wise, gameplay wise, and in terms of being well known she is a minor character at least compared to our heroes and main characters, I still say Sakurai is interested in representing the heroes and main characters of Fire Emblem and the characters that would sell both Smash and Fire Emblem. I believe he is also interested in the most desired characters which are Roy & Chrom. I acknowledge your points, but I still don't think this is enough to get her in over our main heroes. You can make points, but we don't have to agree that they are good ones. Anna has always had this role, yet I haven't seen her considered for Super Smash Bros. I don't think this small promotion she got in Awakening really helps her as much as one might think. I don't think THIS is the thing that instantly would sway Sakurai's opinion on Anna.







I want to know your reasons, friend, the meaning of your words, tell me why, not simply what.

I'll say it again, I think main heroes/lords are better choices, more deserving, and would both sell games as well as please fans more than Anna would.
 

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Hotfeet, I want to be a video game designer and animator too (more specifically cartoonist).
I liked you before, but now I have tons of respect for you.
The College I'm partaking in, Sheridan College, is well known around the world for its Animation program, and you're actually in luck, seeing as there are programs dedicated for cartoonists as well. The hallway of classes featured in the building usually show some of the great designs the artists have come up with. Hell, with the TVs seen through the college campus, they usually play animated movies made by the students, and accordingly there's a children's cartoon on TVO, namely one styled after the classic Cat and the Hat book, that was actually made by students of the college as it's practically the only show that plays that isn't part of the College's weather channel, news channel and actually made video animations.
 

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The College I'm partaking in, Sheridan College, is well known around the world for its Animation program, and you're actually in luck, seeing as there are programs dedicated for cartoonists as well. The hallway of classes featured in the building usually show some of the great designs the artists have come up with. Hell, with the TVs seen through the college campus, they usually play animated movies made by the students, and accordingly there's a children's cartoon on TVO, namely one styled after the classic Cat and the Hat book, that was actually made by students of the college as it's practically the only show that plays that isn't part of the College's weather channel, news channel and actually made video animations.
Sounds really cool, I'll have to look into it.
I have a lot of great ideas for cartoons, but I'm just a high-schooler right now...
Maybe I can start a web-comic soon or something.
 

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You don't consider characters like Little Mac shoo-ins?
I can't really see the game without him at this point.
Shoe-in means its a guarantee. I think Little Mac is extremely likely, like 99%. I have doubts only because he hasnt been announced, and thats pretty much it.

Starfy is definitely not at the same level as Little Mac, and the point I was trying to make is Starfy is not a shoe-in.

Little Mac is really high up there, with the likes of (IMO) Palutena and a new DKC rep, either K rool or Dixie. (Im personally hoping for both
 

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Shoe-in means its a guarantee. I think Little Mac is extremely likely, like 99%. I have doubts only because he hasnt been announced, and thats pretty much it.

Starfy is definitely not at the same level as Little Mac, and the point I was trying to make is Starfy is not a shoe-in.

Little Mac is really high up there, with the likes of (IMO) Palutena and a new DKC rep, either K rool or Dixie. (Im personally hoping for both
I agree with everything you just said. I really don't even think Starfy makes it, but I definitely wouldn't complain.
 

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Shoe-in means its a guarantee. I think Little Mac is extremely likely, like 99%. I have doubts only because he hasnt been announced, and thats pretty much it.

Starfy is definitely not at the same level as Little Mac, and the point I was trying to make is Starfy is not a shoe-in.

Little Mac is really high up there, with the likes of (IMO) Palutena and a new DKC rep, either K rool or Dixie. (Im personally hoping for both
Don't you think it's safe to add Mewtwo to that shoe-in pile?

Sounds really cool, I'll have to look into it.
I have a lot of great ideas for cartoons, but I'm just a high-schooler right now...
Maybe I can start a web-comic soon or something.
Well don't worry, if you're lucky, there may be a Sheridan College around you as there's alot of them, and that's just in Canada alone, I'm not sure how many, if any at all, there are in America.
 

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Well then you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Really the only thing that's changed is he's got a worldwide release, which helps, sure, but it's only one release, which happened four years ago. He's still not among the most popular requests, in the west or Japan, his series, while it has a decent amount of games, hasn't made a huge impact overall, especially recently, and it's still entirely possible Sakurai thinks he isn't a feasible fighter.

He's got a fair shot, and I agree things are different for Starfy this time around, but not nearly enough to put him at the top of any likelihood lists, and hardly enough to call him a shoo-in. Even though his mind can change (obviously it did with Villager) you're literally calling a character Sakurai previously rejected a near "shoo-in". :/
I thin Sakurai's opinion has probably changed after a world wide release (a 5th one at that). No longer being Japan Only is a HUGE plus for Starfy, I think if he wasn't japan only he might have gotten more love in Brawl (not that he didn't have quite some to begin with). Sakurai has also shown he is much more creative with move sets. Creating ones for Villager & Wii Fit Trainer. I honestly doubt his opinion about Starfy's moves is the same now.

Can we seriously have a Starfy debate that isn't this stupid "Requests & Sakurai's Personal opinion" crap. It's like the first thing people go to and it really urks me that people use requests and an outdated statement as a reason to not have somebody.

  • For starters, I don't think a character not having requests means **** to Sakurai at all.
  • We are going on a statement made a LONG time ago when Starfy was Japan Only and Sakurai couldn't make a move set for Villager.
  • I can see Sakurai's personal opinion getting characters in, but sure as hell not keeping them out. I don't recall him stating that his opinion had anything to do with Starfy's appearance.
  • Starfy has deserved it just as much as Issac or Shulk, He's done great in Japan, had 5 games, and has been given tons of love by Nintendo. Are we really going by ratings of released games and how long ago somebody's last game was as apposed to how much history they've made (which has done very well in the first place). Nintendo obviously cares about Staryf if they gave him 5 games and released him in NA.
 

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So folks...

You think we'll get a Zelda related reveal on Thursday?

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