Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Silverjay323]

I don't think it's undermining the roster, I think it's more about undermining the representation Metroid gets in Smash 4, and it kind of is.

Samus/ZSS is enough imo. Not to mention that Metroid doesn't have many recurrent supporting characters to choose from, and Ridley is well... Ridley. I'd rather stick with the representation we have now than throw in another rep just because "It's Metroid".

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Of course there is still time to put cool stuff in, its just right now Megaman is the coolest thing they have added, Im liking what Ive seen but I would appreciate it if sakurai would change the dojo setup from pictures to idk alot more informative stuff like he did for brawl. Anyways like I said im getting it if all they add is just Duck Hunt Dog and Metal mario or something dumb like that.

I actually wouldn't be that surprised if he added Metal Mario

EDIT: It's a good way to give Mario 5 characters without wasting time on a fully fledged character. He could be the 46th character on a 45 Character Roster.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Think of it this way for Palutena.
Palutena is NOT Sakurai's creation. It just so happens that he revived the series that she is a part of.

That is true, she's not of his creation, but she is part of the franchise he practically adopted, and most people will suspect that Kid Icarus will be treated the same way as he treats the Kirby series, but that's speculation. Even then, there's other franchises that could use the newcomers more than Kid Icarus, Metroid being the highest and Donkey Kong being second.

Well, I see your point. But I was just saying popular characters in general that shouldn't overall ruin the game for you if they aren't in it. But yeah, Mewtwo's not with them.

Oh, I know, and I totally agree. And to me, it's not ruining the game, it just feels like there's a hole that could have been filled. Some people may view it differently, but at least I'm not someone who didn't buy the game because a character they main DID get in but doesn't play the way they want (Mostly known as Peach mains)

Samus/ZSS is enough imo. Not to mention that Metroid doesn't have many recurrent supporting characters to choose from, and Ridley is well... Ridley. I'd rather stick with the representation we have now than throw in another rep just because "It's Metroid".

What do you mean Ridley is Ridley?

 

[TumblrFamous]

Samus/ZSS is enough imo. Not to mention that Metroid doesn't have many recurrent supporting characters to choose from, and Ridley is well... Ridley. I'd rather stick with the representation we have now than throw in another rep just because "It's Metroid".

Eh, I could see why people want another Metroid rep. And people LOVE Ridley, so badabing badaboo. But I don't want Ridley just so we can bulk up the roster with villains and Metroid reps, I want Ridley because he deserves it. Any character who deserves it is a character I respect for the next Smash game.

I'm indifferent towards him, but I think he is overdue for a game as a playable character, and completely deserves it as being an immensely important Metroid rep.

 

[MagnesD3]

I actually wouldn't be that surprised if he added Metal Mario

EDIT: It's a good way to give Mario 5 characters without wasting time on a fully fledged character. He could be the 46th character on a 45 Character Roster.

But Metal Mario is ********, wouldnt surprise me coming from the guy who allowed dr. mario and pichu into the smash games...

 

[Louie G.]

That is true, she's not of his creation, but she is part of the franchise he practically adopted, and most people will suspect that Kid Icarus will be treated the same way as he treats the Kirby series, but that's speculation. Even then, there's other franchises that could use the newcomers more than Kid Icarus, Metroid being the highest and Donkey Kong being second.



Oh, I know, and I totally agree. And to me, it's not ruining the game, it just feels like there's a hole that could have been filled. Some people may view it differently, but at least I'm not someone who didn't buy the game because a character they main DID get in but doesn't play the way they want (Mostly known as Peach mains)



What do you mean Ridley is Ridley?

I understand where you're coming from with Palutena, I agree.
Plus, I started with Brawl, so that's the Peach I'm used to.
I really haven't played Melee all that much.

Spoiler

Don't kill me.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I understand where you're coming from with Palutena, I agree.
Plus, I started with Brawl, so that's the Peach I'm used to.
I really haven't played Melee all that much.

Spoiler

Don't kill me.

Let's just say that Peach, always being the game's best Mario character, was super-good in Melee, with her ability to float powerful Peach Bomber, and alot more. With Brawl they tuned down the overall power on her attacks to not make her as useful as she was in Melee, but she was still the best of the Mario characters in Brawl as well.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

But Metal Mario is ********, wouldnt surprise me coming from the guy who allowed dr. mario and pichu into the smash games...

I'd actually roll on the floor in excitement if he got in (I literally did that for Mario Kart 7 NO JOKE)

 

[TumblrFamous]

Oh, I know, and I totally agree. And to me, it's not ruining the game, it just feels like there's a hole that could have been filled. Some people may view it differently, but at least I'm not someone who didn't buy the game because a character they main DID get in but doesn't play the way they want (Mostly known as Peach mains)

True. Looking back at Brawl, Mewtwo not there felt odd, but I quickly got used to it. Still felt odd the first time I played it though. I'll probably feel the same way when Toon Link leaves (IF he leaves).

I never knew people threw a hissy-fit because Peach was nerfed. I knew Peach was nerfed and I still second-mained her. Just give her more KO potential. But I never got pissed when she was nerfed.

If anyone should have gotten pissed for a reason was Melee Ganondorf mains. They butchered him in Brawl.

 

[Louie G.]

I'd actually roll on the floor in excitement if he got in (I literally did that for Mario Kart 7 NO JOKE)

I love Metal Mario in Mario Kart 7.
Smash though...

 

[TumblrFamous]

Let's just say that Peach, always being the game's best Mario character, was super-good in Melee, with her ability to float powerful Peach Bomber, and alot more. With Brawl they tuned down the overall power on her attacks to not make her as useful as she was in Melee, but she was still the best of the Mario characters in Brawl as well.

She wasn't bad. She was certainly better than all the other Mario characters. But she was still usable. Not truly at her peak in Melee, but almost everyone was changed for either the better or the worst in Brawl (except Marth, he stayed near exactly the same).

 

[Shorts]

For me, my top character choices would be Krystal, Medusa, Zoroark, Tharja, Junior, Dixie, and Tingle. I expect one to be added, two if I'm lucky.

The one, will probably go to Dixie, and the second I think will be between Krystal and Junior. The rest are much more pipe dreamy than reality.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I love Metal Mario in Mario Kart 7.
Smash though...

I like Metal Mario in Smash too...once I pick up a Metal Box as Mario.

She wasn't bad. She was certainly better than all the other Mario characters. But she was still usable. Not truly at her peak in Melee, but almost everyone was changed for either the better or the worst in Brawl (except Marth, he stayed near exactly the same).

Marth fans complained too! All because his standard B is different. Who cares!? He's still one of the game's best characters, and will most likely be one of the game's best characters this time as well.

 

[MagnesD3]

I'd actually roll on the floor in excitement if he got in (I literally did that for Mario Kart 7 NO JOKE)

Mario Kart sure, there isnt a metal cap for every character there or spots that could be filled with other way more interesting characters and its easy to make metal mario unique in that game by just messing with his weight class/speed/etc.

 

[TumblrFamous]

My top choices are Palutena, Mewtwo, Dixie Kong, Bowser Jr., Tetra, and most recently Ashley from WarioWare.

Ashley and Tetra are kinda longshots, but still possible. Palutena, Mewtwo, and Dixie are who I feel have really good shots. And I really don't care about FE reps.

 

[MagnesD3]

For me, my top character choices would be Krystal, Medusa, Zoroark, Tharja, Junior, Dixie, and Tingle. I expect one to be added, two if I'm lucky.

The one, will probably go to Dixie, and the second I think will be between Krystal and Junior. The rest are much more pipe dreamy than reality.

Dude im holdin out for krystal. God my hype meter for ssb4 would be chartless.

 

[Louie G.]

What would your reaction be if:
A. Tabuu was announced as a Smash Bros rep, or...
B. Master Hand was announced

Spoiler

As a Kirby rep.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, there's always the rumor he was supposed to be in Melee, but who knows how much that floats.

Sinks like a rock.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

What would your reaction be if:
A. Tabuu was announced as a Smash Bros rep, or...
B. Master Hand was announced

Spoiler

As a Kirby rep.

A.

B.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

For me, my top character choices would be Krystal, Medusa, Zoroark, Tharja, Junior, Dixie, and Tingle. I expect one to be added, two if I'm lucky.

Raichu, Metal Mario, Palutena, Bomberman, Shantae, Donkey Kong Jr., Paper Mario, Zoroark, Genesect, Plusle & Minun, Roy, Mii, Metal Sonic, Gengar, Riolu, Kumatora, Brittany, Tails Doll, Sylux, Blooper, Shy Guy, Darth Vader, Banjo & Kazooie

 

[Louie G.]

I like Metal Mario in Smash too...once I pick up a Metal Box as Mario.



Marth fans complained too! All because his standard B is different. Who cares!? He's still one of the game's best characters, and will most likely be one of the game's best characters this time as well.

Aw man, I was in a Smash tournament with my friends...
Let's just say Marth's Counter is extremely annoying.
And I lost.

 

[MagnesD3]

Im tired of sakurais trolling just give me a Ridley Trailer like you did for sonic and call it a day..

 

[Hotfeet444]

My top choices are Palutena, Mewtwo, Dixie Kong, Bowser Jr., Tetra, and most recently Ashley from WarioWare.

Ashley and Tetra are kinda longshots, but still possible. Palutena, Mewtwo, and Dixie are who I feel have really good shots. And I really don't care about FE reps.

I'd personally vouch to get Captain Syrup than Ashley. Wario mainly represents WarioWare on his own, a character to represent his other adventures is a good idea IMHO.

What would your reaction be if:
A. Tabuu was announced as a Smash Bros rep, or...
B. Master Hand was announced

Spoiler

As a Kirby rep.

To be honest...I'd be upset if there was anything close to a "Smash Bros Rep". Smash Bros is about playing as Nintendo All-Stars or, in third party cases, characters with a history with Nintendo. Making up original characters for a game like this is worse than putting in a character to represent future titles, like people want with Wonder Red or what was done with Roy in Melee.

 

[Shorts]

Dude im holdin out for krystal. God my hype meter for ssb4 would be chartless.

I mean it's possible, but I wouldn't consider it probable. I think the newcomer cast is going to be comprised of New franchise characters mostly. With like five or so existing franchise characters.

 

[Louie G.]

Hey guys, I'm reading a little GameFAQS for lolz...
People support Daisy.

 

[MagnesD3]

I mean it's possible, but I wouldn't consider it probable. I think the newcomer cast is going to be comprised of New franchise characters mostly. With like five or so existing franchise characters.

Honestly I think its 50/50 patterns tend to support Krystal but... patterns technically dont mean anything when it comes to sakurai, we will find out the answers to life soon enough

 

[Hotfeet444]

Im tired of sakurais trolling just give me a Ridley Trailer like you did for sonic and call it a day..

"Ridley's the name, Murder's my game!"

 

[Louie G.]

"Ridley's the name, Murder's my game!"

You're too big!

 

[Shorts]

Honestly I think its 50/50 patterns tend to support Krystal but... patterns technically dont mean anything when it comes to sakurai, we will find out the answers to life soon enough

Sucks, I just am not that fond of the six (three unconfirmed sure) characters said to be in Smash. Really. But how they play could change that.

 

[Jaedrik]

So, SaturnGamer64, you still haven't responded to my post, I'm going to keep confronting you about it until I get an answer, because you haven't given me a relevant one.

 

[MagnesD3]

You're too big!

Should have said nobody.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

So, SaturnGamer64, you still haven't responded to my post, I'm going to keep confronting you about it until I get an answer, because you haven't given me a relevant one.

DUDE! I'VE RESPONDED TO IT TWICE NOW!

 

[Deleted member]

I'd personally vouch to get Captain Syrup than Ashley. Wario mainly represents WarioWare on his own, a character to represent his other adventures is a good idea IMHO.



To be honest...I'd be upset if there was anything close to a "Smash Bros Rep". Smash Bros is about playing as Nintendo All-Stars or, in third party cases, characters with a history with Nintendo. Making up original characters for a game like this is worse than putting in a character to represent future titles, like people want with Wonder Red or what was done with Roy in Melee.

Except that Master Hand and Tabuu already exist, rendering the point of "making up an original character" in response to Noah null.
I agree that making up a new character to serve as a "Smash rep" would be horrible, but honestly, Master Hand is as much an All-Star at this point as half the playable cast. If Master Hand was 64/Amazing Mirror style in size and appearance while given "playable character" limits as a bonus unlock (leaving "regular" Master Hand alone), I wouldn't mind.

 

[Silverjay323]

What do you mean Ridley is Ridley?

I meant the trend of people predicting him since melee and now in Smash 4, which many see as his "last chance" people now have a reason to doubt. In short, I consider him an elusive.
This time around I'm more so wanting lesser known franchises actually being recognized, like Golden Sun, than making sure all of Nintendo bigs are fleshed out.

 

[Hotfeet444]

You're too big!

 

[MagnesD3]

You're too big!

Should have said nobody.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Honestly I think its 50/50 patterns tend to support Krystal but... patterns technically dont mean anything when it comes to sakurai, we will find out the answers to life soon enough

What pattern supports Krystal!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Except that Master Hand and Tabuu already exist, rendering the point of "making up an original character" in response to Noah null.

 

[Louie G.]

I'm saving this picture and using it whenever I can.

 

[Jaedrik]

DUDE! I'VE RESPONDED TO IT TWICE NOW!

Whoops, the link didn't work, and I can assure you you have not responded to it,
Here, let me post it again.

Not only is she a tutorial icon, but she is the tutorial unit as well, a pegasus knight in one. Not only that, but she is the secret/special shopkeeper for every shop in every game (excluding Gaiden, which did not use shops). You also made a mistake, she is playable in Awakening as a side character comparable to Tharja or Owain or any of the others, without the use of DLC, though admittedly she lacks a child and a few support conversations. Speaking of which, she is the face and hostess of link systems in the GBA games, and likewise in every other connection mode. Her role is added unto through the DLC you pointed out, many of the episode's stories are heavily influenced by her, and she is also boss in one of them, actually the hardest boss, stats and skill wise, in all of Fire Emblem. You underestimate her worth severely, and I feel like I've actually said this to you before, last time you didn't respond. You don't have to support her, but you must acknowledge that the combination of all these roles, her mascothood in series, and her reoccurrence, make her a serious contender against the Lords.

Edit: I've said this sort of thing far too often for you to not have noticed by now, and if I was to presume, I'd say you're playing for your agenda in quite a slimy manner. Surely you have a response by now if I am wrong?

 

[Deleted member]

???

I'm saying Hotfeet's argument about making up a new character to be a "Smash rep" is null since Master Hand and Tabuu (characters you brought up) already exist.