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Someone's being positive. Does anyone have the exact quote? It sounds to me like he's a stage hazard.

Here we go. He's showing off a stage. Specifically one where Samus battles Ridley, and he says:
Again, it is neither a confirmation or a disconfirmation.
Or does Sakurai's quote on the Guerdo Valley stage confirm that Epona is going to appear to help the players?

EDIT: Ridley's only a stage hazard when there is undeniable evidence he is one, whether it be word from Sakurai or through visual proof.
 

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Again, it is neither a confirmation or a disconfirmation.
Or does Sakurai's quote on the Guerdo Valley stage confirm that Epona is going to appear to help the players?
pretty sure the quote confirms Epona will be a playable character
 

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Also, there is apparently a difference between the quotes. I believe on that same post instead of implying Ridley, it instead focused on Samus' trauma.
 

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Again, it is neither a confirmation or a disconfirmation.
Or does Sakurai's quote on the Guerdo Valley stage confirm that Epona is going to appear to help the players?

EDIT: Ridley's only a stage hazard when there is undeniable evidence he is one, whether it be word from Sakurai or through visual proof.
I suspect it would be visual proof, but for something like that, it would have been done already. I don't think any stage hazard has ever taken this long to be revealed.
 

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Also, there is apparently a difference between the quotes. I believe on that same post instead of implying Ridley, it instead focused on Samus' trauma.
It's used within the same context; in that "the trauma of Samus might appear". So it's still subtly talking about Ridley.
But it seems more or less a reference to the Ridley scene going by that. The infamous one from Other M where Samus had a trauma attack when Ridley showed himself.
 

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You're so cool. I wish I knew as much about Smash Bros 4 speculation as you.
Nice sarcasm, you and Noah would make a great couple.

Also, there is apparently a difference between the quotes. I believe on that same post instead of implying Ridley, it instead focused on Samus' trauma.
Okay, it's confirmed, when playing on the Pyrosphere as Samus, you'll have PDSD and not be able to move.

No, but seriously, a flashback scene where all the characters become younger versions of themselves would be hilarious.

You must be new.
Just don't work without Willy Wonka.
 

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So many people need to be educated about this: To the average Smash Fan, Toon Link is just a waste of a space, another Link. You realize Link has way too many incarnations to only represent one. It is completely unfair to pick between Adult and Young, Normal or Toon. Even Sakurai realizes how important this is. It also seems kind of dumb that there is not a single incarnation of an already existing character on the roster.
 

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So many people need to be educated about this: To the average Smash Fan, Toon Link is just a waste of a space, another Link. You realize Link has way too many incarnations to only represent one. It is completely unfair to pick between Adult and Young, Normal or Toon. Even Sakurai realizes how important this is. It also seems kind of dumb that there is not a single incarnation of an already existing character on the roster.
:younglinkmelee:
 

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So many people need to be educated about this: To the average Smash Fan, Toon Link is just a waste of a space, another Link. You realize Link has way too many incarnations to only represent one. It is completely unfair to pick between Adult and Young, Normal or Toon. Even Sakurai realizes how important this is. It also seems kind of dumb that there is not a single incarnation of an already existing character on the roster.
To the average person who will look at the game, Toon Link is "hey, that's the Zelda character I used in Wind Waker when I got my Wii U!"

It's not just about thinking of the Smash demographic, but also the Nintendo demographic, many of them who could be in fact playing their first Smash Bros. ever and will be here on this site in two years talking smack about who needs to be educated.
 

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So many people need to be educated about this: To the average Smash Fan, Toon Link is just a waste of a space, another Link. You realize Link has way too many incarnations to only represent one. It is completely unfair to pick between Adult and Young, Normal or Toon. Even Sakurai realizes how important this is. It also seems kind of dumb that there is not a single incarnation of an already existing character on the roster.
I don't care if Toon Link gets in for his character worthiness or whatever but I'm sure he's worthy but honestly I only want Toon Link back because unless they REALLY fix adult Link, every small change Toon Link has makes him a lot funner as a character, from the awesome bomb effects to his stats =P
 

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So, SaturnGamer64, you haven't responded to my post about Anna yet. Does this mean you didn't read it at all, you think my opinion is ********, you agree with me now, or what?
 

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I know but, Its been along time coming, If smash 4's doesnt have alot of great really cool new characters I see no reason to play it over PM. (although Ill totally get it at midnight crap characters or not.) Ridley should have been in a decade ago real talk..
Well, there's always the rumor he was supposed to be in Melee, but who knows how much that floats. Anyways, it's strange, back when I owned the game, before getting it recently before my house got robbed back in 2010, it took me nearly four years to get my hands on the Ridley trophy as I usually only played it with friends and only after a couple of them moved that I actually started playing a majority of the single player parts of Melee. I don't know why, but they made him look like a mindless monster with the hollow eyes in the Melee opening, when in reality...those eyes had pupils, pupils a single shade darker than the actual eye.
 

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Well, there's always the rumor he was supposed to be in Melee, but who knows how much that floats. Anyways, it's strange, back when I owned the game, before getting it recently before my house got robbed back in 2010, it took me nearly four years to get my hands on the Ridley trophy as I usually only played it with friends and only after a couple of them moved that I actually started playing a majority of the single player parts of Melee. I don't know why, but they made him look like a mindless monster with the hollow eyes in the Melee opening, when in reality...those eyes had pupils, pupils a single shade darker than the actual eye.
Im just ready to play as the intelligent monster.
 

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Im just ready to play as the intelligent monster.
Indeed...the cunning god of death...death of free space as everytime he flies through a wall he leaves as a pointless straight hallway behind him. I think there was a sale on porkchops at the cafeteria on that day, Ridley wanted to be first in line, but he couldn't eat it at first because he was Little Birdy.
 

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I know but, Its been along time coming, If smash 4's doesnt have alot of great really cool new characters I see no reason to play it over PM. (although Ill totally get it at midnight crap characters or not.) Ridley should have been in a decade ago real talk..
...Really? Megaman and Villager will do a much better job at marketing the game than Ridley could've. Not to mention we've only gotten three newcomers so far, yet the game "doesn't have alot of cool characters". You have every right to be disappointed if he doesn't get in, but don't undermine the entire roster if he, or any other extremely popular newcomer, doesn't.
 

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...Really? Megaman and Villager will do a much better job at marketing the game than Ridley could've. Not to mention we've only gotten three newcomers so far, yet the game "doesn't have alot of cool characters". You have every right to be disappointed if he doesn't get in, but don't undermine the entire roster if he, or any other extremely popular newcomer, doesn't.
I don't think it's undermining the roster, I think it's more about undermining the representation Metroid gets in Smash 4, and it kind of is.
 

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...Really? Megaman and Villager will do a much better job at marketing the game than Ridley could've. Not to mention we've only gotten three newcomers so far, yet the game "doesn't have alot of cool characters". You have every right to be disappointed if he doesn't get in, but don't undermine the entire roster if he, or any other extremely popular newcomer, doesn't.
True dat. If you become obsessed with a certain character so much that the entire game hinges on that one character's appearance, and they don't get in, then it just ruins the game for you. It's smart to speculate, you shouldn't just be too caught up in it that it ruins the game because, say, Ridley, Mewtwo, and Palutena don't get in. Just accept the roster and the newcomers and what it brings to the table.

Edit: To what Hotfeet said above me- true, Metroid should have at least two SLOTS, as it is one of the bigger franchises of Nintendo. But we did get a Metroid newcomer in Brawl (whether or not people want to believe she is a newcomer, well, she is). But yes, Metroid should gain another slot for the roster. But maybe Sakurai views the franchise as complete. Maybe he can only see Metroid working with Samus/ZSS. But I'm sure he's put thought into Ridley.
 

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...Really? Megaman and Villager will do a much better job at marketing the game than Ridley could've. Not to mention we've only gotten three newcomers so far, yet the game "doesn't have alot of cool characters". You have every right to be disappointed if he doesn't get in, but don't undermine the entire roster if he, or any other extremely popular newcomer, doesn't.
Of course there is still time to put cool stuff in, its just right now Megaman is the coolest thing they have added, Im liking what Ive seen but I would appreciate it if sakurai would change the dojo setup from pictures to idk alot more informative stuff like he did for brawl. Anyways like I said im getting it if all they add is just Duck Hunt Dog and Metal mario or something dumb like that.
 

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Ridley's chances of getting in:

So, SaturnGamer64, you haven't responded to my post about Anna yet. Does this mean you didn't read it at all, you think my opinion is ********, you agree with me now, or what?
I did respond to your post. I don't support Anna for being most recurring because she's a tutorial icon who was only playable through DLC. She's not up there with the main character of the newest and (one of the) best selling Fire Emblem games
 

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True dat. If you become obsessed with a certain character so much that the entire game hinges on that one character's appearance, and they don't get in, then it just ruins the game for you. It's smart to speculate, you shouldn't just be too caught up in it that it ruins the game because, say, Ridley, Mewtwo, and Palutena don't get in. Just accept the roster and the newcomers and what it brings to the table.
Well, I don't think it's fair to put Mewtwo in that pile, since it's pretty much confirmed to happen. It's not like Ridley or Palutena, who both have somewhat of an obstacle to overcome to get in (Ridley = Pyrosphere, Palutena = Sakurai's modesty), Mewtwo is the cream of the crop and has absolutely nothing holding him back, especially since of all the three, he's the only other newcomer to actually be acknowledged as a high possibility by Sakurai himself.
 

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I did respond to your post. I don't support Anna for being most recurring because she's a tutorial icon who was only playable through DLC. She's not up there with the main character of the newest and (one of the) best selling Fire Emblem games
No, not that one, the one after that.
Not only is she a tutorial icon, but she is the tutorial unit as well, a pegasus knight in one. Not only that, but she is the secret/special shopkeeper for every shop in every game (excluding Gaiden, which did not use shops). You also made a mistake, she is playable in Awakening as a side character comparable to Tharja or Owain or any of the others, without the use of DLC, though admittedly she lacks a child and a few support conversations. Speaking of which, she is the face and hostess of link systems in the GBA games, and likewise in every other connection mode. Her role is added unto through the DLC you pointed out, many of the episode's stories are heavily influenced by her, and she is also boss in one of them, actually the hardest boss, stats and skill wise, in all of Fire Emblem. You underestimate her worth severely, and I feel like I've actually said this to you before, last time you didn't respond. You don't have to support her, but you must acknowledge that the combination of all these roles, her mascothood in series, and her reoccurrence, make her a serious contender against the Lords.

Edit: I've said this sort of thing far too often for you to not have noticed by now, and if I was to presume, I'd say you're playing for your agenda in quite a slimy manner. Surely you have a response by now if I am wrong?
 

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Well, I don't think it's fair to put Mewtwo in that pile, since it's pretty much confirmed to happen. It's not like Ridley or Palutena, who both have somewhat of an obstacle to overcome to get in (Ridley = Pyrosphere, Palutena = Sakurai's modesty), Mewtwo is the cream of the crop and has absolutely nothing holding him back, especially since of all the three, he's the only other newcomer to actually be acknowledged as a high possibility by Sakurai himself.
Think of it this way for Palutena.
Palutena is NOT Sakurai's creation. It just so happens that he revived the series that she is a part of.
 

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Well, I don't think it's fair to put Mewtwo in that pile, since it's pretty much confirmed to happen. It's not like Ridley or Palutena, who both have somewhat of an obstacle to overcome to get in (Ridley = Pyrosphere, Palutena = Sakurai's modesty), Mewtwo is the cream of the crop and has absolutely nothing holding him back, especially since of all the three, he's the only other newcomer to actually be acknowledged as a high possibility by Sakurai himself.
Well, I see your point. But I was just saying popular characters in general that shouldn't overall ruin the game for you if they aren't in it. But yeah, Mewtwo's not with them.
 
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