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Yes. But Marth in general is more worthy of inclusion. And there are more ways to swing a sword than there are ways to throw bombs,
Pierce Bomb, Power Bomb, Line Bomb, Full Fire...not to mention the potential use of other power-ups in Bomberman, like Power Glove and Skates.

Anyways, I'd be more supportive of Simon Belmont, and even more supportive of the return of Snake.
 

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You do realize how similar the situation is to you and Impa, right? :p :laugh:
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No. :awesome:

At the very least, I never argued she was / is more likely than the likes of say.. Little Mac. Diddy was after the Brawl trailer pretty much the likeliest character. Even though SAWNICK fans especially disagreed. :rolleyes:

The third party supporters in pre-Brawl where extremely... Unintelligent anyway.

'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK BOMBERMAN!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK CHRONO!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK RYU!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK GENO!'

And then, on top of that, there was Ridley. :smirk:
 

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Bomberman can be our next character with a heavy emphasis on Stage control, (ironically) not unlike Diddy Kong.
 

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Played a lot of Bomberman in my early days, but I can't say I'd enjoy his inclusion very much in Smash Bros. Konami is Snake or no one for me, even if I like Castlevania 1, 3 and 4 I wouldn't really want Simon in either. I know both Bomberman and Simon has bigger ties with Nintendo, but honestly, Snake has imo the most irreplecable and unique moveset of any characters on the roster except for Pokémon Trainer, I wouldn't want him gone, even if we don't have any bomb or whip users (nvm ZSS I guess.)

'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK BOMBERMAN!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK CHRONO!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK RYU!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK GENO!'

And then, on top of that, there was Ridley. :smirk:
3rd party inclusions were very fishy pre-Brawl, we had no idea how many they'd pick. I personally didn't care much back then and would rather see no other 3rd parties than Snake, and sure enough that was the inital plan.

Also, enough with the Ridley hate you stupid little monkey.
 

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No. :awesome:

At the very least, I never argued she was / is more likely than the likes of say.. Little Mac. Diddy was after the Brawl trailer pretty much the likeliest character. Even though SAWNICK fans especially disagreed. :rolleyes:

The third party supporters in pre-Brawl where extremely... Unintelligent anyway.

'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK BOMBERMAN!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK CHRONO!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK RYU!'
'OF COARSE THEY GONNA PICK GENO!'

And then, on top of that, there was Ridley. :smirk:
Ridley is 3rd party? I never knew. :troll:
 

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Yes. But Marth in general is more worthy of inclusion. And there are more ways to swing a sword than there are ways to throw bombs,
Gonna have to disagree with you for that one. Overhead throws, underhead throws, arm-swinging throws, chest passing, thrown like a rock, thrown like a baseball, thrown while spinning, held bombs turning huge... Then there's the entire spectrum of ways to bomb someone without throwing it, like kicking across the floor, kicking it diagonally, dropping it below, shooting it out a weapon, using it to propel yourself into the air, laying mines--jesus, the list goes on. Aside from omnidirectional slashing, stabbing, and spinning, all swords are essentially identical in terms of how their purpose is to cut and puncture via being swung with the arm.

Besides that, we already have at least 5 Sword-fighters in Smash Bros. An explosions expert not named Snake would be quite the niche and a lot of fun.
 

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I meant that most Ridley supporters managed to even lower the board's general intelligence from all that other 3rd party ****.

K.Rool had very intelligent supporters mostly. Which still holds true today. :smirk:

No but seriously, all 3rd party support was TERRIBLE back then. Absolutely, utterly disgusting.

I only really sticked out in the Diddy, Ike, Toon Link and K.Rool threads. Even though there where plenty of trolls to be found there to.
 

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I don't know if you remember, but pretty much everyone was snot stupid back then, even Diddy Kong and K. Rool supporters (I actually remember the DK rep supporters being big nuisances. Not Sonic big or admittedly Ridley big, but still very annoying.) Just going back and checking threads from back then is a good thing if you need a laugh, it's too bad Smash Central doesn't have an archive for the old Brawl Central site.
 

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I'll just put my 2 cents here regarding 3rd party characters...
If mega man was the only 3rd party?
I kind of liked playing as both sonic and snake so they would be missed but IT'S ****ING MEGA MAN!
Sonic? I understand why people don't like him as a character in smash or in general but look on the brightish side. If Sakurai adds him into smash 4 he wouldn't be such a last minute inclusion like he was in brawl so his moveset could be fixed... Besides I know his moveset was bland, unvaried (Marth is somehow a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CASE... Apparently. Yes I will continue to bash Marth even though I actually kind of like playing as him... That's the margentman way...) but I don't know... I sort of like his playstyle I guess. I just love using spin dash and doing that thing where you jump after you hit them for extra damage >:3 He's done enough to merit his inclusion and there's really no reason for Sonic not to be included right now... And again, if he does make it back HE'LL BE A BETTER CHARACTER THEN BEFORE
Snake? SNAKE? SNAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Pac-Man? Indifferent.
Bomberman? OK I'm going to stop now but for Konami Simon>Snake>Bomberman

And that is my 2 cents
 

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3rd party inclusions were very fishy pre-Brawl, we had no idea how many they'd pick. I personally didn't care much back then and would rather see no other 3rd parties than Snake, and sure enough that was the inital plan.
Even after Sakurai said he might add one or two more third-party characters after Snake in Brawl, people still wanted dozens of third-party characters and anime characters (and they don't even count) in Brawl. :rolleyes:
 

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Even after Sakurai said he might add one or two more third-party characters after Snake in Brawl, people still wanted dozens of third-party characters and anime characters (and they don't even count) in Brawl. :rolleyes:
Yeah, by far the worst and most annoying character requests are anime characters like Goku, Naruto and Ichigo, along with the 2nd Sonic rep requests like Knuckles and ****ing Shadow.
 

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Yeah, by far the worst and most annoying character requests are anime characters like Goku, Naruto and Ichigo, along with the 2nd Sonic rep requests like Knuckles and ****ing Shadow.
Hey, at least you have reasonable people like me to keep the world in check!
Omastar 4 smash
 

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1. I add Tingle because of the simple reason that even if Toon Link will get again in Smash he will probably retain his moveset and will not receive the same treatment as Luigi to be more different than his counterpart, making him again a clone and I choose Tingle for the simple reason that he has starred his own games and appeared in the most recent games of Zelda.

2. Nope is personal preference.:cool:

3. You say mistake, I say "Lucario can su.... my ......" (by the way I love Lucario, he is one of my favorite pokemon but if I add one more pokemon rep it will unbalance the whole roster especially because it will have over representation, more slots than Mario and Zelda series) And I think Mewtwo is getting more importance this time around than Lucario, I don´t see they will cut PKM Trainer or Jigglypuff (for the simple reason of the gimmick of PKM Trainer and the easy implementation of Jigglypuff that has save his life more than once of being cut off from the series).

4. So, I don´t see Sakurai removing Sonic nor Snake and Namco is working on Smash (not a big deal for me).

5. Why should I replace Mach Rider with Takamaru (yeah I know that Takamaru has been showed more in these recent years with Nintendo Land and Captain Rainbow, but still I will wait until he gets a brand new game, until then both of them have the same chances).

6. Shulk is one of the most important characters right now from Nintendo, Xenoblade Chronicles was a mayor success on the Wii, it can represent the union between Monolith Soft with Nintendo and let me get this straight Shulk > Isaac (yeah deal with that, for the simple reason that Xenoblade has a edge over Golden Sun with the next game of Monolith Soft called X on the WiiU, if Golden Sun will have a next installment on the 3DS or WiiU I will rate higher Isaac but until there is evidence of something like that, I will stick with Shulk).

7. Because Harry represent a new series, I f... hate that Fox, Falco and Wolf have almost the same moveset wise and not only that you can leave Harry alone he didn´t take the space of Wolf, the character that take that space is King. K. Rool, Ridley or if you want Palutena.

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1. Tingle simply can't get in over Toon Link. Clone or no clone
2. What is wrong with 5 Pokemon characters. That was the plan for Brawl. If you think it's that big of a problem then have a fift Mario character, and it doesn't matter if Zelda has less because Zelda had less in the first one. You can't just have an all gen 1 roster and pose the same grave mistake Sakurai made in Brawl just with a different character.
3. Sakurai isn't going to add Namco characters for the sake of being owned by Namco.
4. How do Mach Rider and Takamaru have the same chances when you just listed everything that makes Takamaru more likely than Mach Rider.
5. Lol, Shulk is BARELY important to Nintendo, I can't believe you honestly deemed him one of the most important. Lots of Nintendo Franchises are a major success you know. And how the hell is Shulk more important than Issac!? XenoBlade has ONE game, and Golden Sun had 3, one on DS 3 years ago (the same year as XenoBlade) It's also more welll known.
6. Representing a new series doesn't automatically make you higher priority nor does it make you a remotely important or considerable character. Harry can go to hell and I wouldn't think twice before saying that Masahiro Sakurai doesn't give one long solid **** about Harry. Nobody does and nobody ever will. Sakurai would **** on Harry's face before he ever considered him worthy of being a sticker.

I honestly forgot about R.O.B...

Now that that has been said, you can replace him with Snake on my roster.

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Updated, replaced Snake for R.O.B. after shamefully forgetting him in my last roster.
1. We don't need 4 DK reps OR Fire Emblem reps. Leave room for new franchises and franchises that need extra representation more.
2. I'd be totally okay with these FE characters, but you can't have 4 and no Chrom, also why Lyndis if we already have Roy?
3. What's with your Pokemon layout!? You have 6 and why is Blastoise a character and why are the starters separate with no Ivysaur? Just bring back Pokemon Trainer.
4. Skyward Zelda ain't happening and neither is Impa. Impa would more likely make a cameo as either a trophy or Assist Trophy.
5. You only have 1 Third-Party, I suggest adding Bomberman or bringing back Sonic & Snake.

4.5/10 (This roster is really weird)

Bomberman is tired of waiting
Pac-Man can suck Bombeman's bombs :cool:
 

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Haters be hating.

Charizard and Blastoise are 'represented' by Pokémon Trainers. And why having them separate? Well, why the **** not. Charizard vs Blastoise was always #1 hyped match in Pokémon. Ever since Red and Blue till now. That arguebly brings both on the levels of importance as Mewtwo, and topping Lucario most likely to. So yes, separation, and no Ivysaur. Realisically, yes, both should be dropped for Kanto Pokémon Trainer.

Why Lyn if I also have Roy? Cause. If we could take Sakurai's comment on the Brawl Dojo about AT's seriously he said something as 'these characters didn''t quite became playable' - Lyn was considered once. And so was Roy. East vs West theme to. Marth and Roy = East, Ike and Lyn = West. Chrom is boring, but he could realistically replace both.

Skyward Sword Zelda and Impa not happening? Who are you to say? Skyloft stage. Where is the Twilight Princess stage? Not there. It won't be either. Toon Link could be replaced or removed, but am not doing it. Why? Cause I like Toon Link, Wind Waker HD, and I have Paper Mario on my roster.

Sonic and Snake could be considered 'guest' characters. I don't see them as locks, and I don't see why people think they are 100% safe. Just like Sheik.

DKC is the only other series that warrants 4 characters other than Mario, Zelda and Pokémon. And as you noticed, Mario, Zelda and Pokémon have more characters each than DKC still. I don't see the need to complain about it.

My roster, my choices.
 

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If I would actually have my way with Pokémon Trainer, I'd have him separated in 3 characters, based on choice; Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle. And they'd all evolve, as a reversed Stamina gimmick.
 

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Pac-Man is not getting in. If Sakurai was really adding Pac-Man, he'd go retro Pac-Man, just as he did with Mega Man. And how would a 2D 3/4 circle be interesting at all? I'm saying he'll get a stage or AT at best.

And Mii...I'd rather play Playstation's awful Smash rip off than have Mii be playable.
 

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I'm just separating what does not function when tagged togheter. Project M already took my example, when are y'all gonna do it? :cool:
 

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Haters be hating.

Charizard and Blastoise are 'represented' by Pokémon Trainers. And why having them separate? Well, why the **** not. Charizard vs Blastoise was always #1 hyped match in Pokémon. Ever since Red and Blue till now. That arguebly brings both on the levels of importance as Mewtwo, and topping Lucario most likely to. So yes, separation, and no Ivysaur. Realisically, yes, both should be dropped for Kanto Pokémon Trainer.

Why Lyn if I also have Roy? Cause. If we could take Sakurai's comment on the Brawl Dojo about AT's seriously he said something as 'these characters didn''t quite became playable' - Lyn was considered once. And so was Roy. East vs West theme to. Marth and Roy = East, Ike and Lyn = West. Chrom is boring, but he could realistically replace both.

Skyward Sword Zelda and Impa not happening? Who are you to say? Skyloft stage. Where is the Twilight Princess stage? Not there. It won't be either. Toon Link could be replaced or removed, but am not doing it. Why? Cause I like Toon Link, Wind Waker HD, and I have Paper Mario on my roster.

Sonic and Snake could be considered 'guest' characters. I don't see them as locks, and I don't see why people think they are 100% safe. Just like Sheik.

DKC is the only other series that warrants 4 characters other than Mario, Zelda and Pokémon. And as you noticed, Mario, Zelda and Pokémon have more characters each than DKC still. I don't see the need to complain about it.

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So with much consideration, I think I will be bumping my roster back up to 50.
I will add Ike to my roster, thanks to many of you convincing me with yesterday's discussion.
I am also re-adding Ridley and Dixie I believe. With all the extra space there's no reason to leave them out.
I'm contemplating my cuts also. I only have 3 cut characters now, so I'm wondering if there's even a point.
Although I hate no cut rosters.

Edit: Forgot to ask, this was the main reason I posted this.
What do you guys recommend for my roster?
 

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So, guys, I think we can all say from what we have been shown that Namco is giving Samus a well-needed and well-deserved boost in speed and power.

I'm excited. I used to main her in Brawl for a while (to this day I pick a random character and master them), but ultimately ended with T. Link and Peach. Regardless, I think she might be very viable in this game. Thoughts?
 

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So with much consideration, I think I will be bumping my roster back up to 50.
I will add Ike to my roster, thanks to many of you convincing me with yesterday's discussion.
I am also re-adding Ridley and Dixie I believe. With all the extra space there's no reason to leave them out.
I'm contemplating my cuts also. I only have 3 cut characters now, so I'm wondering if there's even a point.
Although I hate no cut rosters.

Edit: Forgot to ask, this was the main reason I posted this.
What do you guys recommend for my roster?
I recommend you this XD
 

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So, guys, I think we can all say from what we have been shown that Namco is giving Samus a well-needed and well-deserved boost in speed and power.

I'm excited. I used to main her in Brawl for a while (to this day I pick a random character and master them), but ultimately ended with T. Link and Peach. Regardless, I think she might be very viable in this game. Thoughts?
I think through each installment, Samus is getting better and better (although a considerable drop from Melee to Brawl). I don't really know WHO I'll be maining this time around (probably Mega Man or Little Mac just cuz), but there are many characters I usually don't play as that look like they can be serious contenders.
 

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I think through each installment, Samus is getting better and better (although a considerable drop from Melee to Brawl). I don't really know WHO I'll be maining this time around (probably Mega Man or Little Mac just cuz), but there are many characters I usually don't play as that look like they can be serious contenders.
That's a great topic! Who do you all want to main this time around?

I'm still definitely using Peach and Pikachu. I cannot pass them up. I'll probably try out Samus, Pit, and Bowser just cuz. And I will definitely try all the newcomers until I find a good one for my main for the game (I always use newcomers for my mains in these games). Megaman is a serious contender though. And I want to use Villager, but I don't like gimmicky characters. But I'll try. WFT? Possibly. I had a dream a few nights ago that I had the game, was using WFT, and sucked. I think it's a warning, guys...

Anyone else?
 

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Good afternoon all, hope you're all doing well. Glad to see Sakurai is still dangling keys in front of our face with that Metroid Other M stage, good times good times. Also, nice train wreck of comments for the past couple of pages, they're always a joy to read when I'm not keeling over laughing or smacking my head on my desk in disappointment, that Sonic discussion especially.

I think through each installment, Samus is getting better and better (although a considerable drop from Melee to Brawl). I don't really know WHO I'll be maining this time around (probably Mega Man or Little Mac just cuz), but there are many characters I usually don't play as that look like they can be serious contenders.
I already have my mains set out, all they need to do is be announced.
 

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That's a great topic! Who do you all want to main this time around?

I'm still definitely using Peach and Pikachu. I cannot pass them up. I'll probably try out Samus, Pit, and Bowser just cuz. And I will definitely try all the newcomers until I find a good one for my main for the game (I always use newcomers for my mains in these games). Megaman is a serious contender though. And I want to use Villager, but I don't like gimmicky characters. But I'll try. WFT? Possibly. I had a dream a few nights ago that I had the game, was using WFT, and sucked. I think it's a warning, guys...

Anyone else?
See, I'm absolutely completely stumped.
I could go old-reliable and use Luigi and Peach like normally, but some returning reps with new moves (Bowser in particular) intrigue me.
In newcomer terms, I think Mega Man, Villager, Paper Mario, and Little Mac would likely be my mains.
King K. Rool, Ridley, and Palutena are still 3 characters I would love, but don't see my spell playing as that often. Maybe K. Rool, although I'm not a big heavyweight fan (unless you count Wario).
So in conclusion...
I have no idea.
 
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