Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[SmashPro97]

No. ME!


Haha jk. I'm cool with Waluigi. But there are doubts. Meh. Who cares anyway.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Cool, there's a SmashPro in the thread! I'm eager to see what a pro has to say about the topic of the hour

*heads back a couple pages*
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So when we refer to SmashPro, we mean he's a (so called) SmashPro.

 

[shrooby]

Sorry, but this is not the...time.
inb4 Brawl in the Family picture of "Gee look at the time"

 

[SmashPro97]

Cool, there's a SmashPro in the thread! I'm eager to see what a pro has to say about the topic of the hour

*heads back a couple pages*
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You might be disappointed on that lol.

Come brawl with me and see what I mean

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Toad = Bowser Jr. > Paper Mario > Rosalina > Everyone Else.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You might be disappointed on that lol.

Come brawl with me and see what I mean

 

[SuperBrawler]

Toad > Bowser Jr. > Paper Mario > Waluigi > Everyone Else

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Toad = Bowser Jr. > Paper Mario > Rosalina > Everyone Else.

No Mario character at all > Toad = Bowser Jr. > Paper Mario > Rosalina > Everyone Else.

Come at me.

 

[Glaciacott]

You might be disappointed on that lol.

Come brawl with me and see what I mean

See, this is what confuses me. You actually seem like a reasonable poster who's neither trollish or a complete disaster to this thread ... but that argument was just much much longer than it needed to be.

Oh well, the thread moves on. I'll pass on the brawl but owe you a match when Smash4 does come out though.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I've seen a lot of stupid going on here. I think I'll just move back to No Rildey - Butthurt Plaza.

 

[SmashPro97]

See, this is what confuses me. You actually seem like a reasonable poster who's neither trollish or a complete disaster to this thread ... but that argument was just much much longer than it needed to be.

Oh well, the thread moves on. I'll pass on the brawl but owe you a match when Smash4 does come out though.

Well if Smash4 is the same pace and movement as Brawl then sure. If not, then lemme adapt.
Besides, I went with SmashPro97 because if I were to use iSuck, then I would be a troll. MEH.

 

[FinalStarmen]

Toad >>> Bowser Jr./Paper Mario > Rosalina > Everybody else conceivable to the Mario universe (my apologies to Waluigi)

While I do not wish to partake in another argument, I would just rather express this concern I have over Toad and Bowser Jr.'s priorities in comparison to each other, especially if only one character slot would be easily available. The same, of course, applies to Paper Mario, as well as it does Bowser Jr.

I wish for someone to explain to me how Bowser Jr., a slightly recurring character that has only appeared in the recent past decade in a few titles, has the same priority or even more as such than Toad, a majorly iconic, long-running, and important recurring character. Toad has appeared in nearly every Mario platforming game in some capacity, as well as being an occasionally playable character if not a helpful assistant. Not only that, but Toad also appeared in several other non-platforming Mario titles like the Mario Kart, Mario Party, and Mario Sports series. Toad is practically one of the most recognizable Mario characters within the universe, in the same sense that Ridley is for Metroid or Pokemon Trainer is to Pikachu.

If any sole Mario character deserves to be in Smash this time around, it's Toad.

 

[GmanSir]

IMO: Paper Mario = Waluigi > Bowser Jr. > Toad. In terms of possibility. No preference, since I would like *your least favorite Mario character* to be in.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Um... yeah, everyone's still doing the Mario.
Anyone from Mario I would like to see is already in.
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From the Wario series, however, I'd like to see Captain Syrup. I'm surprised that back in the Brawl days, Captain Syrup had a pretty big following. Might say, if memory doesn't fail me, she was among the Top 10 most supported characters.

Just once I'd love to see something Wario-related in SSB that isn't Wario-ware based. (Character, AT, or stage).

 

[TheBakonBitz]

No Mario character at all > Toad = Bowser Jr. > Paper Mario > Rosalina > Everyone Else.

Come at me.

Toad > Waluigi > Paper Mario > Bowser Jr > Daisy > Everyone else.

 

[CalumG]

IMO: Paper Mario = Waluigi > Bowser Jr. > Toad. In terms of possibility. No preference, since I would like *your least favorite Mario character* to be in.

Waluigi over Bowser Jr. and Toad in terms of possibility? Whatcrackareyousmoking.com/canihavesome.jpg

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Toad > Waluigi > Paper Mario > Bowser Jr > Daisy > Everyone else.

Not even close.

 

[Glaciacott]

The way I see it, in terms of likelihood

Toad = No Mario Rep > Bowser Jr. > Everyone Else

I love Paper Mario, and know people here love him just as much, but always felt he's a little bit overestimated here in terms of chance.
If he makes it in Smash I'll be genuinely surprised (and very very happy.)

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Toad > Waluigi > Paper Mario > Bowser Jr > Daisy > Everyone else.

Not even close.

Toad = Bowser Jr. > Paper Mario > Rosalina > Everyone Else.

At least my list doesn't have Rosalina.

 

[GmanSir]

Damnit, i meant Paper Mario = Bowser Jr. > Waluigi > Toad. Ofc there could be no more Mario reps for this game. Paper Mario isn't at its prime anymore, Waluigi doesn't appear in main Mario games, Jr is the 2nd villain, and Toad is just Toad.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm just gonna go and say....

No new Mario characters=Toad=Bowser Jr.=Paper Mario > Waluigi > Geno > Anyone Else.

 

[jaytalks]

The Wario series has been a major portable franchise, so I could definitely it as a 3DS stage.

Toad should be a rep before other mario characters. I think Waluigi doesn't offer anything in the Mario series that literally any other couldn't. And it annoys me that Daisy could serve the same role (in a sports outfit) but is mostly dismissed. I don't really care for Daisy, but I view their role in the series as comparable.

 

[Starbound]

I've seen a lot of stupid going on here. I think I'll just move back to No Rildey - Butthurt Plaza.

Read this as No Ridley = Butthurt Pizza. >_>

You guys are totally forgetting the bestest Mario newcomer ever!

Dry Metal Baby Daisy in her sports outfit.

 

[CalumG]

The moveset of this:

With the animations of this:

You can practically taste the butthurt.

 

[FinalStarmen]

I'm just gonna go and say....

No new Mario characters=Toad=Bowser Jr.=Paper Mario > Waluigi > Geno > Anyone Else.

At this point, given some recent statements from the developers of Super Mario RPG about Geno, everybody else from any other series (excluding third-party) has a greater chance than Geno. His future is as grim, bleak, and dour as oblivion.

Unless, of course, you are simply stating preference and not predication, from which then I apologize.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

At this point, given some recent statements from the developers of Super Mario RPG about Geno, everybody else from any other series (excluding third-party) has a greater chance than Geno. His future is as grim, bleak, and dour as oblivion.

Unless, of course, you are simply stating preference and not predication, from which then I apologize.

Kinda both preference and likelihood.

Geno doesn't have a shot but he's brought up enough and popular enough that I thought I should include him.

 

[Cobalsh]

Read this as No Ridley = Butthurt Pizza. >_>

You guys are totally forgetting the bestest Mario newcomer ever!

Dry Metal Baby Daisy in her sports outfit.

Don't you mean...


Sorry for the recurring joke.

 

[zauberdragon]

I'll just reiterate what I said last night in terms of what I think will be best for Smash:

No character> Bowser Jr> Toad> Paper Mario

 

[FinalStarmen]

The moveset of this:

With the animations of this:

You can practically taste the butthurt.

I'm not offended even in the slightest, yet what is to be gained from this? At this point, you're not adding anything productive to the beaten-to-death discussion, other than trying to provoke the emotive responses from the likes of Mr.SaturnGamer, who is well-known for a reactionary nature as much as anybody offended.

I encourage you to at least drop the subject if you have nothing else to add to it, even if your intention is just playful jesting, because there are other topics well-worth discussing. Provoking easily-angered forums members is akin to threatening a wild animal with a stick - it's not advisable, nor is it necessary.

 

[CalumG]

I'm not offended even in the slightest, yet what is to be gained from this? At this point, you're not adding anything productive to the beaten-to-death discussion, other than trying to provoke the emotive responses from the likes of Mr.SaturnGamer, who is well-known for a reactionary nature as much as anybody offended.

I encourage you to at least drop the subject if you have nothing else to add to it, even if your intention is just playful jesting, because there are other topics well-worth discussing. Provoking easily-angered forums members is akin to threatening a wild animal with a stick - it's not advisable, nor is it necessary.

Actually, what was to be gained was me showing that Paper Mario using Mario's moves doesn't look as out of place as people suggest - provided the animation kinks get worked out. It was thinly-wrapped in a light bit of trolling, but I was actually making a legitimate point that it'd be very easy to make Paper Mario as a last-minute clone if need be. If fans can make these (admittedly half-arsed) versions of Paper Mario out of other characters, what could the developers do?

 

[TheCreator]

Of all series we are discussing MARIO AGAIN. **** I hate these they're so boring and unproductive.
Then again. At this point how much better does it get.

 

[CalumG]

Of all series we are discussing MARIO AGAIN. **** I hate these they're so bring and unproductive.
Then again. At this point how much better does it get.

...We could discuss Ridley if you'd prefer.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Ah finally someone broke the silence. Are people already mourning Ridley?


Anyway, how many newcomer characters (independant of the total) do you see getting in?

I think about 10-12 newcomers between starters and hidden characters will be the number. Considering Sakurai believes the priority no longer lies with more characters, it's only natural for them to start decreasing.

 

[CalumG]

my guess is 13 newcomers and 3 removals of old characters (take your pick of your 3 least favourite), leaving a tidy 45 characters overall. 50 seems too high a number, 40 seems too low, but I'd be more than okay with having a few vets removed at the expense of working on some newcomers. So yeah, 32 returning characters, 13 newcomers.

 

[TheCreator]

Exactly what Calum said.

 

[Arcanir]

...We could discuss Ridley if you'd prefer.

 

[FinalStarmen]

Just imagine if Ridley is de-confirmed as a playable character, and is, instead, announced as either a stage hazard, background character, or even a boss. I truly, genuinely, sincerely, emphatically, sympathetically feel absolute sorrow for whichever character is announced in September instead. Assuming, of course, the pattern maintains.

 

[Espio264]

Ridley was in the background in 64, in that awesome opening sequence in Melee and a boss in Brawl. Sakurai keeps making sure he's present in each of the games and makes him more and more appealing each time. If he's so important to include in some fashion in each game, how does Sakurai not see his importance as an all star and therefore the obvious reasons to make him playable? Making him a stage hazard at this point? Why would he think we still give a damn for any reason other than getting to be him?

 

[FalKoopa]

Ridley talk everywhere I go, except here, I guess.

So what's the current topic?

 

[TheCreator]

Watch Ridley get revealed tomorrow. Everyone would be like "Oh, that's what he meant."