Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheBakonBitz]

And even with that, their normal moves are not similar in the slightest.

Lucas and Ness share 5/9 smashes/specials that's over half. EarthBound is dead, Metroid isn't, Lucas doesn't add anything to the table while Ridley would.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I'll give you the side smash, but other than that, there is still a difference between each special which affects how they are used. Need I bring Lucas' completely different A moveset (Side Smash exception)? Lucas is used completely differently from Ness. Lucas is my main and I'm terrible with Ness. Lucas is a semi-clone, just like Luigi, Falco, and Wolf.

Agreed on all except Wolf.

Really, the only moves he shares with Fox are two specials, nothing else.

 

[mimgrim]

There is no question or worry of diversity if Anna would be put in, and if she turned out not to be diverse anyways, then Sakurai would have done the same with whatever 3rd FE rep came.
She has the most potential, why don't more people support her? She's even plausible, forchris'sake! There's no need for skeptic worry, our discussion has crushed all reasonable doubt time and again.

Plausible =/= likely unfourtantly. :/

But I just want you to know Anna isn't the only plausible non-lord unit to add diversity. There is also Tikie who arguable is just as plausible, if not a little bit more plausible, as/then Anna as she has been playable in 5 games and played an important role in all 5 of those games, while not being in almost every game like Anna but unlike Anaa she was playable in 5 games and played a important role in thos 5 games. But of course this doesn't mean they are all the likely to begin with but they both offer diversity. o.o

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I just realized G0LD3N L0TUS has the most correct predictions so far with a total of 2 characters. Looks like we better consult him from now on

 

[Khoru]

Lucas and Ness share 5/9 smashes/specials that's over half. EarthBound is dead, Metroid isn't, Lucas doesn't add anything to the table while Ridley would.

finished=dead, of course!
is this deity

 

[Silverjay323]

Sure am, Metroid is one of Nintendo's most popular franchises, ever wondered why Samus is already confirmed but a EarthBound character hasn't been? Lucas is most certainly a reskin:

I'll only do Smashes and Specials for the sake of time.
Special - Freeze and Flash, same idea, but they do different things so these are kinda unique.
Side Special - Fire, same for both.
Up Special - Thunder, same for both.
Down Special - PSI Magnet, same for both.
Final Smash - PK Starstorm, Lucas' fall at an angle, come on, same for both.
Side Smash - Stick = Bat

Lucas PKT 1 travels faster and PKT2 travels farther and deals consecutive hits unlike ness, and Lucas PK Magnet has a hitbox upon release. There are more stars in Lucas' FS and Ness' are more powerful. Stick has less startup lag and does less damage. So,you've clearly never played them and ignored their entirely different normals, aerials, and other 2 smashes, and these alone make them reskins? Ganon/Falcon and Fox/Falco are much more clone-like of reskins than they are.

Lucas and Ness share 5/9 smashes/specials that's over half. EarthBound is dead, Metroid isn't, Lucas doesn't add anything to the table while Ridley would.

Once again I point to Fox/Falco and Ganon/Falcon, who share much more than this. Earthbound isn't "Dead" if that were the case we wouldn't have gotten a re-release. Ness and Lucas already have Polar opposite gameplay competitively(Ground vs. Aerial) and even casually to an extent. Who are you to say they bring nothing new?

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Agreed on all except Wolf.

Really, the only moves he shares with Fox are two specials, nothing else.

Just like Luigi

 

[mimgrim]

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I have something even better;

Slow Minamato.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Lucas and Ness share 5/9 smashes/specials that's over half. EarthBound is dead, Metroid isn't, Lucas doesn't add anything to the table while Ridley would.

And you're completely ignoring all of their unique standard moves and how their special moves function differently.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

And you're completely ignoring all of their unique standard moves and how their special moves function differently.

Also the fact that in the original GAME Lucas has quite a bit of personality that differentiates him from Ness.

If you were arguing Ninten vs Ness, maybe, but this? No.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Just like Luigi

Luigi shares many more normal moves with Mario, and 2 specials.

Wolf shares two specials with Fox, nothing else.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

I just realized G0LD3N L0TUS has the most correct predictions so far with a total of 2 characters. Looks like we better consult him from now on

Wishlist. I wasn't expecting Villager, and I'm certainly not expecting Roy or the Masked Man.

Lucas and Ness share 5/9 smashes/specials that's over half. EarthBound is dead, Metroid isn't, Lucas doesn't add anything to the table while Ridley would.

It's true that Lucas didn't really add anything knew, but does that mean he should be cut? No, it doesn't. Jigglypuff didn't bring anything new either (outside of a normal type).

Oops, double post. My laptop doesn't update the forum properly...grumble. sorry

 

[Jaedrik]

Plausible =/= likely unfourtantly. :/

But I just want you to know Anna isn't the only plausible non-lord unit to add diversity. There is also Tikie who arguable is just as plausible, if not a little bit more plausible, as/then Anna as she has been playable in 5 games and played an important role in all 5 of those games, while not being in almost every game like Anna but unlike Anaa she was playable in 5 games and played a important role in thos 5 games. But of course this doesn't mean they are all the likely to begin with but they both offer diversity. o.o

Once again, likelihood, real or perceived, is not a valid reason to support a character, nor is it a valid reason to disregard a character. I also approve of Tiki.

To say Sakurai bases his choices on reps based on story influence is wrong, Sakurai HAS said, however, that he looks for 'story-driven' characters, which can be reasonably interpreted as being driven bytheir story, i.e., their personality (which Sakurai imagines and injects into the characterless characters, see, R.O.B. and G&W and how they act in SSE), and we've also seen him say if HE thinks they can work in Smash (as in he can devise a moveset for them or likes them) then he'll put 'em in. There's certainly no real barrier for Anna that we know of for certain, only those manufactured by her detractors. (<- bold claim)

 

[mimgrim]

Once again, likelihood, real or perceived, is not a valid reason to support a character, nor is it a valid reason to disregard a character. I also approve of Tiki.

Oh I agree which is why in my next roster I post up Imma have Tiki in there jsut cause I can and let the haters hate.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Luigi shares many more normal moves with Mario, and 2 specials.

Wolf shares two specials with Fox, nothing else.

I'd still disagree on Wolf not being at least a semi-clone, but that's just me.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I'd still disagree on Wolf not being at least a semi-clone, but that's just me.

Eh, understandable. I don't really consider a character to be a semi clone unless they share at least two relatively similar normal moves, and a few specials.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Can seriously get on to a new topic? This Ridley VS Lucas argument is kinda annoying...
What do you guys think about DLC? Will it happen? Will it not?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Cranky is important too, but Peppy and Slippy aren't really that important to Smash.

In my eyes, Starfox does not have any more or less important potential characters for Smash than DK does.

I like you already.

Keep posting more. We need it.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Can seriously get on to a new topic? This Ridley VS Lucas argument is kinda annoying...
What do you guys think about DLC? Will it happen? Will it not?

 

[mimgrim]

Bah for SF just make it Fox and Wolf and call it a day. Even though I would love to have more anthros.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

It's true that Lucas didn't really add anything knew, but does that mean he should be cut? No, it doesn't. Jigglypuff didn't bring anything new either (outside of a normal type).

Oops, double post. My laptop doesn't update the forum properly...grumble. sorry

I think it's most important the character your representing and not always so much his moves.

Can seriously get on to a new topic? This Ridley VS Lucas argument is kinda annoying...
What do you guys think about DLC? Will it happen? Will it not?

It's not planned, but it's such an obvious solution to missed characters. It makes more sense to have DLC then to say "Sorry, better luck 6 years from now "

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Can seriously get on to a new topic? This Ridley VS Lucas argument is kinda annoying...
What do you guys think about DLC? Will it happen? Will it not?

I can't say whether it'll happen, but I for sure think it should. After seeing a problem a lot of Triple AAA companies go through and even visiting one along with hearing from a lot of employee's (or ex employee's and whatnot) the problem is that a lot of people DON'T retain their jobs after they're done with a game. Guess what? A good chunk of Brawl's didn't if I recall right, at least 40%.

We got what we could get with Brawl as well, so it's for sure shown an interest into Smash. I for sure think we should have DLC, and it's all up to the producers mostly, but I for sure think it should happen even if only for a few characters and stages. Will it? 50/50.

Bah for SF just make it Fox and Wolf and call it a day. Even though I would love to have more anthros.

Fox, Wolf, Krystal, Falco. Everyone can shut up because in the end the producers will decide, and those saying otherwise usually have a clear bias against ___ or are unwilling to reason anyways.

 

[zauberdragon]

Can seriously get on to a new topic? This Ridley VS Lucas argument is kinda annoying...
What do you guys think about DLC? Will it happen? Will it not?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

I'll just leave this here. Straight from Sakurai himself.

 

[mimgrim]

Fox, Wolf, Krystal, Falco. Everyone can shut up because in the end the producers will decide, and those saying otherwise usually have a clear bias against ___ or are unwilling to reason anyways.

If I had my way I would have all those 4 and then some, the more anthros the better in my book.

Same with dragons, just much moreso.

But due to all the negativity SF reps seem to create I just say go at the series with scissors and make everyone unhappy with it.

 

[masterluigi1]

Cranky is important too, but Peppy and Slippy aren't really that important to Smash.

In my eyes, Starfox does not have any more or less important potential characters for Smash than DK does.

ok cranky is important but I don't think hes as requested as slippy or peppy.

also panther and leon both have more reocurring roles than most other dk characters.

 

[TumblrFamous]

For the DLC topic, I can only see clones like Dr. Mario and Pichu return. Since DLC isn't a priority I'm guessing well primarily just see extra stages, music tracks, trophies, etc.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

If I had my way I would have all those 4 and then some, the more anthros the better in my book.

Same with dragons, just much moreso.

But due to all the negativity SF reps seem to create I just say go at the series with scissors and make everyone unhappy with it.

If we're to suggest an obscure rep, how about Tricky riding on Panther wearing Majora's Mask with Navi?

Points if you get the reference.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Can seriously get on to a new topic? This Ridley VS Lucas argument is kinda annoying...
What do you guys think about DLC? Will it happen? Will it not?

Agreed, I'm frankly surprised there an argument involving those two in particular only,

No telling whether DLC will happen, but I think it should.

This way they could finish characters that didn't orignally make the cut but were planned, and perhaps we could get more skins/costumes as well.

 

[zauberdragon]

But due to all the negativity SF reps seem to create I just say go at the series with scissors and make everyone unhappy with it.

If Falco gets cut I will literally scream until I'm sick.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

ok cranky is important but I don't think hes as requested as slippy or peppy.

also panther and leon both have more reocurring roles than most other dk characters.

There isn't a need for that many playable Starfox characters...

Cranky is important to the DK franchise, as are Peppy and Slippy to Starfox, but none of them could bring that much into Smash, DIxie K. Rool and Krystal all have more potential, and are more requested.

 

[MargnetMan23]

I don't care if people are pissed off at starfox's trio of clones just declone falco more and change Wolf's specials to further differentiate and it's fine.

 

[mimgrim]

If we're to suggest an obscure rep, how about Tricky riding on Panther wearing Majora's Mask with Navi?

Points if you get the reference.

Unfourtantly I don't get the refrence. :/

If Falco gets cut I will literally scream until I'm sick.

That is the sacrafice we must make to make everyone unhappy.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

If we're to suggest an obscure rep, how about Tricky riding on Panther wearing Majora's Mask with Navi?

Points if you get the reference.

A quote of Habanero.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Agreed, I'm frankly surprised there an argument involving those two in particular only,

No telling whether DLC will happen, but I think it should.

This way they could finish characters that didn't orignally make the cut but were planned, and perhaps we could get more skins/costumes as well.

There definitely should be DLC. And speaking of skins, I'm hoping Bowser gets a Dark Bowser skin. M+L needs more Smash recognition.

 

[PK-Omelette]

The Mother 4 website that's up today is making me want to rage right now...

Anyway... what topic should we be discussing now? DLC?

 

[mimgrim]

The Mother 4 website that's up today is making me want to rage right now...

Wut? o.o

 

[PK-Omelette]

Wut? o.o

http://mother4.andonuts.net/

It's been inaccessible like that for the past 13 hours I've been waiting....

 

[Thirdkoopa]

A quote of Habanero.

Close.

http://smashboards.com/threads/roster-prediction-discussion-thread.336018/page-251#post-15677170
I'm actually the one who made it, but Johnknight and Habanero helped on this beauty.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Close.

http://smashboards.com/threads/roster-prediction-discussion-thread.336018/page-251#post-15677170

I'm actually the one who made it, but Johnknight and Habanero helped on this beauty.

I made a similar quote on the Smash 4 General Discussion social thread after he mentioned it there, want to hear?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'd like to thank everyone for the positive feedback of my last roster. Here is also a crappy video of my roster if ya want to support it with likes and subscribes : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTyglqT_iQ

If we're to suggest an obscure rep, how about Tricky riding on Panther wearing Majora's Mask with Navi?

Points if you get the reference.

I don't get the reference! TELL MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!