MagnesD3
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I kinda dont wanna see balloon fighter in just because they haven't made him a singular entity he is just a balloon fighter among many, if they gave him an identity I might change my mind though.
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Roster Prediction Discussion Thread
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8-peacock-8
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Balloon Fighter - Useless without balloons.
So he wont have "A" button attacks Sakurai?
So he wont have "A" button attacks Sakurai?
Frostwraith
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Yoshi, Pikachu, Jigglypuff and Lucario say hi.
BluePikmin11
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Popo and Nana are just singular entity too, but Sakurai decided to add them.
MagnesD3
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Yoshi is the one that baby mario rode on (I consider that to be the yoshi), for pokemon they are all iconic figures but I guess the same could be said for balloon fighter but idk something about it bothers me for some reason when they dont have an identity and they just make it in.
Popo and Nana have names, they have an identity.
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There is only one "Balloon Fighter", though.
His name is just unknown.
His name is just unknown.
8-peacock-8
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Alice? Who's that? Balloon Fighter is working for Chop Chop Master Onion. He isn't trying to take over the world....yet.
HylianHeroBigBoss
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I know im alone in thinking this, but i dont care if the ice climbers return. In fact id rather see another duo or retro character fill that void, since other than keeping them in for being in prior installments they bring nothing new to the table in terms of assets and new material.
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MagnesD3
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But she's not the balloon fighter, also is he the only balloon fighter? Cuz if he is I'm ok with him.
BluePikmin11
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Alice Alt costume seems best for Balloon Fighter.
Curious Villager
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I don't know whether I would rather want to see Alice or regular Balloon Fighter in smash. I guess I'd personally be fine with either of them.
MagnesD3
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If that's right then I'm fine with him
8-peacock-8
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I'm pretty sure that Alice and Balloon Fighter would probably have a similar moveset. So it doesn't matter if Alice isn't a "BALLOON FIGHTER".
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Is Alice the daughter of the original Balloon Fighter? 
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I was saying that there is only one singular "Balloon Fighter". That is his identity. There aren't multiple nameless characters that go by that identity.
Closest one would be "Balloon Man" from the Game & Watch version of Balloon Fight, though he is clearly a separate character with his own story.
Alice already has her own identity, so she isn't "Balloon Fighter".
She may be a "balloon fighter", but she isn't the character aptly named "Balloon Fighter".
8-peacock-8
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Yeah. I wasn't replying to anyone in particular when i said that.
Curious Villager
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Hmm... Now that I think about it. I would like to see some more Game Boy retro's such as Alice and Muddy Mole being playable in smash. So I think I might be leaning more to Alice despite that Balloon Fighter is probably more likely.
8-peacock-8
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Balloon Fighter makes more sense in my eyes. At least when it comes to representing the Balloon series.
Curious Villager
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Yeah that's true. I would like to see some more characters from the Game Boy era though such as Muddy Mole etc. The only ones we have are the Pokemon cast (obviously) so far I can remember...
Alice would be nice I guess, but with all the attention Nintendo has put on Balloon Fighter, and as he's the more iconic and popular one, I doubt Alice's role will ever be greater than a trophy. I could see BF having an Alice-themed colour swap though.
I think of the single-appearance GB characters, Muddy probably has the best chance, though he's still pretty unlikely. (sorry Opossum)
I think of the single-appearance GB characters, Muddy probably has the best chance, though he's still pretty unlikely. (sorry Opossum)
BluePikmin11
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What about Prince Sable?
MagnesD3
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Everybody needs at least one alt in the new ssb, that is for certain.
He'd be cool with his transformations and all, and he's more likely than Alice, but I think his Japan-only release gives Muddy the advantage.
BluePikmin11
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Japan popularity is the only hope
Plus I think his game could be interesting for a big revival.
Curious Villager
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@N3ON yeah I agree. Balloon Fighter definitely gets more attention from Nintendo than Alice ever did so he's definitely the more likely one of being the playable one if either of them would ever compete for a spot in smash. not to mention that more people know him than Alice.
He doesn't really have any (or any notable) Japanese popularity. Japan tends to not care about retro characters, even Takamaru's popularity in Japan is limited.Japan popularity is the only hope
BluePikmin11
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Give it the ol Ice Climbers treatment, only this time were not looking at the NES games, were looking at the Gameboy games.
Unlike during the Ice Climbers' time of inclusion, retro characters actually have popularity and are making notable appearances again, so it's those ones that will likely be included. Considering Sakurai limits the amount of Japan-only characters, and Takamaru actually has popularity, recent re-appearances, and has received positive comments about his chances at inclusion before, I wouldn't hold out much hope for the Prince of Sable.Give it the ol Ice Climbers treatment, only this time were not looking at the NES games, were looking at the Gameboy games.
MagnesD3
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Also slightly changed my roster,
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Well, I VERY APPRECIATE your polite response. Some people are being harsh and well "denial" about my roster by saying none of my characters will make it, to say so I believe is kind of just because they are mad that I disagree with their roster.
Eirika: Anyway, if you read the video, Eirika was originally going to be LEAF. A character who appeared in VARIOUS FE games and is one of the most famous heroes, the ONLY reason I switched to Eirika is because of the numerous FEMALE Fire Emblem Heroes, and I thought it would make sense to have a Marth clone (just felt like it.) so I chose her. But since Chrom is so basic in his abilities (sword wise) It's likely he may be the Marth Clone and we may get Lyn as an unlockable.)
Starfy: I really see no reason why Starfy ISN'T possible. He finally got a game in the west, has tons of moves, is pretty famous in japan, and I think the only reason people don't think Starfy will be in it is because they think the only characters that will get in are the ones that EVERY fan roster has. And that's not very open minded.
Ninten: So we had the hero from Mother 2, we had the hero from Mother 3. what about the last one there is. I think the ONLY reason people disagree with Ninten is because he looks like Ness. You CAN redesign characters. Pit got redesigned and looks very different. And with so many PSI moves out there it would be ashame to make use of only 5. I'm thinking if Masked Man got in he would be alongside Ninten.
Matthew & Karis: No, I don't really EXPECT Karis. I'd be surprised if she DID get in. I picked her because it was a POSSIBILITY, but a real shot in the dark. Matthew is from the most recent Golden Sun and there are only 3 Golden Sun games. Kinda like how Ness got in to SSB64 as appose to Ninten. But, it could JUST as well be Issac.
Mewtwo 2.0: Everyone wants Mewtwo back right? Well, now we can have him without having to bring back an already removed character and still having a new pokemon from the most recent game.
Takamaru & Ray: There is no question about him. Takamaru WILL be in SSB4 probably as a starer. He seems to be a VERY popular Nintendo character. Had a hit famicom game, appeared in Soul Calibar, Had his own Nintendo Land Game (and yest everyone recognized his name.) and he has potential. Ray has so much potential as well and the reason I had him as an unlockable is because he's not as famous as ALL the others. But, he sure is more likely than Mach Rider if you ask me.
Bomberman: Bomberman is VERY famous. He has a HUGE history with Nintendo. Appeared as a guest star in tons of games. Had tons of spin-offs, considered one of the most famous video game characters. Appeared alongside Wario in a game, and is often mistaken for a Nintendo character himself. He even was part of Hudson Soft, another company with a huge history with Nintendo. Just because he was bought out by Konami. (Which is Snake's company) does not make him "Dead" or unlikely. Pac-Man is WAY more dead than him. I don't even think Bomberman is even CONSIDERED dead by most.
Sheriff: One of the first Nintendo games. Roughly well known, and could have a lot of moves. I say he's as likely as Ice Climbers were. And since he's not that special I had him as a starter. Again there's less likely people like Muddy Mole.
Trace: There are a lot of Bounty Hunters in Metroid, and I think people would love to see them playable. Otherwise I think Samus will be alone.
Bowser Jr./Paper Mario, King K. Rool, Chrom: There in like every roster, everone wants them, we all know who they are, and they have tons of moves.
That's why.
Also (being polite obviously isn't helping because some just want to hear what THEY want. At least on this thread. You don't HAVE to agree with me and I don't HAVE to agree with you. And when I'm trying to see stuff from your point of view and willing to talk civilized and you guys are just like: "NO, ADMIT YOUR WRONG, HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK THESE CHARACTERS ARE POSSIBLE" It's simply being hippo critical if you accuse me of doing the same.
8-peacock-8
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Bomberman not dead? Yeah no. Konami isn't even using him. At least Namco is still using Pac-Man.
This is coming from a guy who love the franchise.
This is coming from a guy who love the franchise.
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It's an endless loop.
G0LD3N L0TUS
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I'll try to respond politely, too.
Eirika: For starters, why would we want a Marth clone? Why not Ephraim, who's more popular and not a clone?
Starfy: it is generally implied that he won't get in because he is the worst assist trophy in the game. He can work, but there are easily better misc choices like Isaac and Shulk.
Ninten: The fact that Ness got in over Ninten is pretty much proof enough that Ninten shouldn't get in Smash. Mother should stick with the poster boy, the recent protagonist, and maybe a villain, too.
Karis: People aren't requesting a second Golden Sun rep, so it's highly unlikely that Golden Sun will go from 0 to 2 reps.
Mewtwo 2.0: Not sure we should only have his awakened form, but a good choice nonethless
Takamaru: No issues there, of coarse
Ray: While I agree that Custom Robo deserves a rep, I don`t think one is a good idea because limiting Ray to a specific moveset completely misrepresents the series. The game is called ----> Custom <---- Robo.
Bomberman: Sakurai is very reserved about Third-Party characters. It is highly unlikely that KONAMI will get a second rep. Another company should take priority, especially since Bomberman isn't being used at the moment. I still insist that Pac-Man isn't dead, too.
Sheriff: I, personally, find it difficult to make him work, but I think he's a good choice regardless and I'd like to see him in.
Trace: Why do the bounty hunters get more priority over the space pirates or Metroids? Trace may be popular, but he can't even compare to Ridley or Dark Samus.
Bowser Jr./Paper Mario, King K. Rool, Chrom: No problem with any of those, but I'm unsure about Mario getting two new reps.
I hope I didn't come off as snotty, at all. :/
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Why you haven't just added him to your Ignore Users list is beyond me.
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Hard to "own" what is mentally incapable of accepting defeat and just keeps coming back for more.
It's like trying to own a cockroach with nukes.
I get the feeling "debating" with Noah is pretty much equivalent to wasting one's time, so even though there's a lot wrong with what he posted, I'll just say that Sakurai himself doesn't think Starfy would work well as a fighter in Smash, and Takamaru was never in SoulCalibur.
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