Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Broodlaw]

45 I would say would be pushing it just a bit, Anywhere from 40-42 would be pretty accurate, especially since we probably will get some cuts of brawl characters here and there, not as bad as Melee but still cuts irregardless

 

[josh bones]

It wouldn't; it's a cake. My point is that technically and theoretically Peach's role of being kidnapped could be taken by anything or anyone. She's something that needs to be gotten back. That is her entire role in those games.

Some games fleshed her out more; SMB2 and Super Princess Peach(which isn't as sexist as everyone made out; Peach is the only one in the kingdom able to control her emotions) but her role is basically 'thing Bowser wants to steal to make Mario and/or Luigi come after him'.

while that may be true nobody would care. Peach IS THE PRINCESS the person in charge. Without her, most business wouldn't be done. Why would anyone care, unless the cake would destroy the world.

 

[Opossum]

45 I would say would be pushing it just a bit, Anywhere from 40-42 would be pretty accurate, especially since we probably will get some cuts of brawl characters here and there, not as bad as Melee but still cuts irregardless

Breathe, Opossum...just breathe...

Spoiler

I posted this one with my IPad though.

UPDATE # 2.0 The roster now shows transformations. And Starfy
My roster prediction/wishlist, 50 slots, 55 characters:

EXPLANATIONS (IM REALLY BAD AT EXPLAINING).

UPDATE! Starfy: Pretty likely, and very popular.
Tetra: Very important/popular LoZ character.
Toad: In a LOT of the Mario games, lots of potential, and very popular. (and I like him better then Bowser Jr.)
King K. Rool: VERY popular, check out the polls, most popular DK rep, villain, who doesn't have him in their roster? Pretty self explanatory.
Ridley: See King K. Rool except he's a Metroid rep. Pretty self explanatory.
Palutena: Who else for Kid Icarus? Very Popular, female. Pretty self explanatory.
Takamaru: One of the most potential/likely retro characters, pretty self explanatory.
Little Mac: See Takamaru.
Isaac: Pretty self explanatory. See Takamaru.
Mewtwo: 6th Gen rep, VERY VERY popular, even before Newtwo, Pretty self explanatory.
Chrom: Pretty self explanatory. Very popular.
Pac-Man: Most potential 3rd Party.

RULES

1. No cuts
2.50 slots

OTHER POTENTIAL NEWCOMERS

Instead of Toad: Bowser Jr. Paper Mario
Tetra: Toon Zelda
Chrom: Roy.i
Starfy: Saki

TRANSFORMATIONS
Zelda and Sheik, Samus and ZSS, PKMN Trainer, Squirtle, Charizard, and Ivysaur, Mewtwo and Newtwo.

Thanks to anyone who's artwork I may have used for the icons or anyone who made the icons.

What do you guys think?

I think I love this roster too much.

 

[mimgrim]

Tetra: Very important/popular LoZ character.

Should probably end up being a Toon Zelda + Tetra transformation.

Isaac: Pretty self explanatory. See Takamaru.

Since when is Isaac retro? GBA ain't retro yet. Q_Q

OTHER POTENTIAL NEWCOMERS
Tetra: Toon Zelda

Again why not just make a Toon Zelda & Tetra transformation? Since they are the same person. And makes more sense to have with Toon Link.

TRANSFORMATIONS
Zelda and Sheik, Samus and ZSS, PKMN Trainer, Squirtle, Charizard, and Ivysaur, Mewtwo and Newtwo.

Thanks to anyone who's artwork I may have used for the icons or anyone who made the icons.

One last time you should include Tonn Zelda & Tetra transformation instead of just Tetra. Or instead of even just Toon Zelda.

 

[Deleted member]

Did I seriously just see Peach's role being compared to a giant cake?

REALLY?

So I'm expected to believe Mario would go chase down Bowser and storm his castle just because he stole a giant cake? Who do you think he is, Kirby?

 

[SuperBrawler]

Did I seriously just see Peach's role being compared to a giant cake?

REALLY?

So I'm expected to believe Mario would go chase down Bowser and storm his castle just because he stole a giant cake? Who do you think he is, Kirby?

Maybe he loves the cake, so much he married it.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Maybe he loves the cake, so much he married it.

Seems to be the incentive through most the series.

I think I've won for most wtf comparison for today at least.

Also I love the idea of a cake that can destroy the universe.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Remove Sheik, add Impa. And add Tetra as another newcomer, no Toon Zelda, no Toon Sheik.

Warning: do not take this post too seriously.

 

[josh bones]

Remove Sheik, add Impa. And add Tetra as another newcomer, no Toon Zelda, no Toon Sheik.

Warning: do not take this post too seriously.

In the winner for worst post 2013...
DIDDY KONG

 

[YoshiandToad]

In the winner for worst post 2013...
DIDDY KONG

You must have missed the past twenty pages of this topic.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Or the past 20 months or so in general

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Or any discussion involving DivineDiety.

 

[josh bones]

anything diddy kong> diety and noah

 

[MagnesD3]

Peach is the reason 90% of the Mario games happen. And she starred in her own game. You can take out krystal and the series is the same.

Star fox adventures wouldn't have happened without her.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Star fox adventures wouldn't have happened without her.

The whole Mario series wouldn't have happened without Peach.

 

[MagnesD3]

I won't doubt your opinion because I have nothing against Krystal and personally I'd rather that she replaced either Falco or Wolf (with the one who stays getting the best features of the one who gets cuts) - a new Star Fox rep without the typical blaster and reflector weapons would be a nice change, I can definitely agree on that one. I just don't think it's as black-and-white as "50% chance", and whilst in an ideal world Star Fox would get four reps or even five, this is not an ideal world and we are not going to get a 50+ character roster - compromises have to be made. In this case, I simply feel it's less than ideal for Star Fox to have four reps, just like I feel at least one existing Pokemon rep will have to be cut. It ain't pretty but it's the grim truth of fighting game development; they're never going to be able to realistically include all of the veterans people want whilst also providing enough newcomers to make it a worthwhile purchase.

I think the character amount will be around 50-45 so there would be enough room that being said its really up to sakurai.

 

[mimgrim]

The whole Mario series wouldn't have happened without Peach.

Technically speaking, that is a bit untrue. Peach could have been replaced with many a person or things. A more correct statement would be "the whole Mario series wouldn't have happened without Donkey Kong."

 

[MagnesD3]

The whole Mario series wouldn't have happened without Peach.

It could have been daisy or palutine (what ever her name was)

 

[Starcutter]

the "the whole series wouldn't have happened if _____ didn't exist" is a poop argument.

 

[SuperBrawler]

It could have been daisy or palutine (what ever her name was)

What about Krystal though?

 

[Starcutter]

What about Krystal though?

if you can say she was important in being the reason ONE GAME happened, I can claim that kamek was the reason the whole YOSHI SERIES happened. (it's true, but it doesn't mean much.)

it just doesn't work like that. it doesn't mean ANYTHING.

 

[MagnesD3]

What about Krystal though?

She was chosen by the main villian to host the power of the krazoa spirits due to her supernatural powers and she is the last member of her planet. She's not as easily replaced.

 

[SuperBrawler]

if you can say she was important in being the reason ONE GAME happened, I can claim that kamek was the reason the whole YOSHI SERIES happened. (it's true, but it doesn't mean much.)

it just doesn't work like that. it doesn't mean ANYTHING.

I mean, that's what MagnesD3 said. That's why I argued with Peach.

 

[MagnesD3]

if you can say she was important in being the reason ONE GAME happened, I can claim that kamek was the reason the whole YOSHI SERIES happened. (it's true, but it doesn't mean much.)

it just doesn't work like that. it doesn't mean ANYTHING.

did kamek become a main villian of the series ( or in my case team member) also starfox games are more popular than the yoshi series. Also was kamek ever playable.

 

[josh bones]

It could have been daisy or palutine (what ever her name was)

So take daisy away from luigi?

Try to say no to this face

 

[FlareHabanero]

Apparently Bowser never happened in the Yoshi sub-series, you know the actual antagonist? Kamek is usually The Dragon that merely does Bowser's tasks, both in his adult and baby incarnations. Hell, Kamek is even absent in some of those games like Yoshi's Story.

 

[josh bones]

Apparently Bowser never happened in the Yoshi sub-series, you know the actual antagonist? Kamek is usually The Dragon that merely does Bowser's tasks, both in his adult and baby incarnations. Hell, Kamek is even absent in some of those games like Yoshi's Story.

He didn't, BABY bowser did.

 

[FlareHabanero]

He didn't, BABY bowser did.

Still Bowser.

That's like the equivalent of saying the child Link and adult Link from Ocarina of Time are two entirely different beings.

 

[MagnesD3]

So take daisy away from luigi?
View attachment 2047
Try to say no to this face

Btw is there any games that show off this relationship besides Mario sports games?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Baby Bowser and Bowser of coarse aren't the same characters. Neither are Baby Mario and Mario. Or Daisy and Daisy in her SPORTS outfit of coarse.

 

[Starcutter]

did kamek become a main villian of the series ( or in my case team member) also starfox games are more popular than the yoshi series. Also was kamek ever playable.

1. yes. kamek is now in a lot more recent yoshi and mario games.
2. yes, his most recent playable appearance was in mario party 9.

I'm saying the argument that only because krystal causedone game to happen, it doesn't mean that she's really important in the grand scheme of things.

you could argue that she became a team member, but that's completely different then the point you are making.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Good afternoon all, how's it going today? What's our current subject? Also, Kangaskhan's Mega Forme is absolutely awesome, as the Baby actually does a tag-team with the mother, excellent idea Gamefreak.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Good afternoon all, how's it going today? What's our current subject? Also, Kangaskhan's Mega Forme is absolutely awesome, as the Baby actually does a tag-team with the mother, excellent idea Gamefreak.

It appears:
Why Krystal should/shouldn't be in
Why Kamek should/shouldn't be in
Why Peach should/shouldn't be in


Leave while you can.

Also that Baby Bowser and Bowser aren't the same and something similar with Link and Young Link, and Daisy and Daisy in a sports suit?

 

[MagnesD3]

1. yes. kamek is now in a lot more recent yoshi and mario games.
2. yes, his most recent playable appearance was in mario party 9.

I'm saying the argument that only because krystal causedone game to happen, it doesn't mean that she's really important in the grand scheme of things.

you could argue that she became a team member, but that's completely different then the point you are making.

Being playable in a Mario party doesn't mean much, also the teammate thing is important. Her background and abilities could also bring in great story material for the future as well.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

That would imply Sakurai actually goes up to them for Bomberman.
Which is about as likely as the creators of South Park going up to him about adding Eric Cartman.

What on earth are you talking about??? You do realize Bomberman is one of THE most iconic video game characters ever, right? I've never heard such a harsh and bias description of Bomberman. Do you secretly hate Bomberman?

anything diddy kong> diety and noah

Are we seriously going to milk the hell out of something from 2 months ago? I doubt most of us still give a ****.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Bomberman argument? AGAIN?

Welp, guess I'll be sticking to the Smash 4 general discussion social thread for a while.

 

[josh bones]

GOLDEN? What did you get us into

 

[YoshiandToad]

if you can say she was important in being the reason ONE GAME happened, I can claim that kamek was the reason the whole YOSHI SERIES happened. (it's true, but it doesn't mean much.)

it just doesn't work like that. it doesn't mean ANYTHING.

Technically if Yoshi and Kamek never happened; NONE of the Mario series would have happened. Mario and Luigi would never have gotten home, never would have grown up, never gone through the events of Donkey Kong(if you believe this is how they got to Mushroom Kingdom again), never would have met Peach and then none of this would have happened.

So technically you're incredibly correct Legendofrob.

In fact thinking about it like that; that IS a good reason why Kamek deserves to be in Smash.

 

[Khoru]

Technically if Yoshi and Kamek never happened; NONE of the Mario series would have happened. Mario and Luigi would never have gotten home, never would have grown up, never gone through the events of Donkey Kong(if you believe this is how they got to Mushroom Kingdom again), never would have met Peach and then none of this would have happened.

technically the stork is the most important character in mario

 

[YoshiandToad]

technically the stork is the most important character in mario

Holy cow; you're actually right. This is all the stork's doing!