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That doesnt really mean anything though, King Boo's might be a mushroom too... I mean what are they gonna do draw a mansion icon on there for luigi...
They gave Yoshi an Egg, and he's still a Mario character at heart.

Unless Luigi or King Boo or whatever gets a different symbol, they are direct Mario characters as far as Smash is concerned, regardless of what they "represent".
 

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I vouch for no one.
Yoshi is pretty much his own series in icon only. The game takes too much from the main Mario franchise to truly feel like a separate franchise, unlike WarioWare.
And since Yoshi and a majority of the series' characters are also prominent in the Mario games....yeah....it's really just including another Mario character disguised as a character from a "different" series unless it's someone like Poochy, but who really wants Poochy?
I vouch for Poochy as an Assist Trophy.

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I predict that there's going to be at least one major upset for SSB4 similar to how there were several for Brawl. I honestly think that either K. Rool or Ridley (or even both) will get snubbed for some random reason. I'd like for both to get in but I'm not going to get overly optimistic about either of their inclusions.
People are going to be disappointed no matter what you do. People are just simply optimistic and don't consider the possibilities that it might not come true. But in the end, it's just simply a video game.

Don't put your expectations too high, otherwise you'll get disappointed.
 

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They gave Yoshi an Egg, and he's still a Mario character at heart.

Unless Luigi or King Boo or whatever gets a different symbol, they are direct Mario characters as far as Smash is concerned, regardless of what they "represent".
But Yoshi was given that symbol way early on back in ssb64 and look how his series grew... I dont think sakurai would throw the icon away.
 

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I still think Shy Guy is the best choice for a Yoshi rep, even if he is just a species, but then again Yoshi & Waddle Dee are species too :cool:

Besides Kamek isn't a very unique choice like Shy Guy. Shy Guy implements all his various personas while Kamek is just another magic character, like we need another. She could always use Broom as her upward special and spawn enemies, but I think Shy Guy would be cooler.

Basically Yoshi became an actual character when he appeared in Super Mario Kart, just like Shy Guy became a character when he appeared in Mario Tennis.


It was fun, but what was incredibly dissapointing was the lack of innovation, every character is a Toad or enemy and all the worlds are from New Super Mario Bros.

Also did anybody else notice that the main selling point of the game was it's biggest flaw? You gather up Stickers to fight enemies, but why do you want to fight enemies, they don't give you anything but a couple of coins that are everywhere in the first place. So basically when you choose to fight an enemy all you're doing is trading 3 Stickers and a percentage of HP, for maybe 1 Sticker and a coin or too. So you just avoid all the enemies.
I just want Paper Mario 3, no bull crap just paper mario 3 for the wii u, thats all I ask, is it really too much to ask for INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS!!!
 

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despite ANYONE ELSE'S OPINION,

I really think kamek's really a yoshi character since it was the game that breathed emotion and personality into kamek, much like they did with yoshi.
 
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But Yoshi was given that symbol way early on back in ssb64 and look how his series grew... I dont think sakurai would throw the icon away.
I never said to get rid of Yoshi's symbol.
I said that Yoshi was given a different symbol to "represent" his own series despite him really just being a Mario character with a few games.

If Sakurai was doing that with the Luigi's Mansion "series", he would have given Luigi his own symbol (such as the E. Gadd face, an L with eyes, a Boo face, etc.) that would be used for anything Luigi's Mansion related, including characters like King Boo or E. Gadd if they were included.

But since he didn't, Luigi is still a direct Mario character within Smash, regardless of what representation Luigi's Mansion gets.
 

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yes I would. if shy guy didn't wear a mask, it wouldn't have an effect on weather or not I think Kamek is a yoshi character.

what're u smokin?
I meant Shy Guy would have emotion breathed into him if he had a face to express it, just like Yoshi & Kamek.
 

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I meant Shy Guy would have emotion breathed into him if he had a face to express it, just like Yoshi & Kamek.
but I never said he didn't.

also, really enjoying this lil yoshi series discussion so far! a lot better than last time I brought it up...
 

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She also wears a bow tie. Bow ties are my fetish.
... nobody needs to know that... :scared:

Honestly, I don't see what's so special about the Yoshi series that it even warrants ANOTHER representative... if anything, there are other more deserving candidates (Metroid, Donkey Kong, and even Mario) as well as newcomer series (Xenoblade or Tales, for instance) that could use more reps. Just my two cents, though. :ohwell:
 

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Honestly, I don't see what's so special about the Yoshi series that it even warrants ANOTHER representative... if anything, there are other more deserving candidates (Metroid, Donkey Kong, and even Mario) as well as newcomer series (Xenoblade or Tales, for instance) that could use more reps. Just my two cents, though. :ohwell:
what if I said that they could co-exsist?

oh wait, your probably the type of person who would blame a character they don't like as the reason why theirs didn't get in. and seing that there's about 10 or more characters you seem to want in over kamek....

never mind.
 

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Is your fetish to complain about everything?:ohwell:
Wow, I was unaware that I am unable to STATE MY OPINIONS and that, instead, I have to conform to mainstream society... I follow my own agenda, not that of yours, but mine, so don't dictate to me what I should say and don't say. I don't follow everything GoldenYu says, or what hotfeet says, or what Noah J. Linderer says, but what i say, because I don't follow mainstream society - I'm a shepard, not a sheep, a leader, not a follower. I have EVERY right to speak my mind, even if my opinions isn't your opinion, because it is my democratic right as an American citizen to be able to state my opnions, however popular or unpopular, because it is justice. Moving on!
 

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Please Divine, and everyone else, try to be civil. If it's so dire, just either block each other or try to discuss it over PMs.
 

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what if I said that they could co-exsist?

oh wait, your probably the type of person who would blame a character they don't like as the reason why theirs didn't get in. and seing that there's about 10 or more characters you seem to want in over kamek....

never mind.
Kamek has almost NO CHANCE of being a playable character. None. Why? Because there are FAR MORE DESERVING contenders than Kamek. Examples include: Ridley, King K Rool, Lloyd, Shulk, Pacman, Mewtwo, and Hell, even GENO deserves it more than Kamek. Don't let you Yoshi-esque bias for the Yoshi universe get in the way of critical thinking and logicalness. Kamek would be lucky to be an AT, let alone a playable character.
 

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Please Divine, and everyone else, try to be civil. If it's so dire, just either block each other or try to discuss it over PMs.
Since when did you have a red banner? :laughs:

Honestly, I don't see what's so special about the Yoshi series that it even warrants ANOTHER representative... if anything, there are other more deserving candidates (Metroid, Donkey Kong, and even Mario) as well as newcomer series (Xenoblade or Tales, for instance) that could use more reps. Just my two cents, though. :ohwell:
Yeah, I agree that a new Yoshi rep is very unlikely, but I'd like one anyway.

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Shy guy has emotion.

Shy Guy is a ****ing merciless SOB in Mario Party.




In the first one if you mess up he'll cut the rope and your only lifeline, then you just drift away into a boundless ocean whilst floating on your pitiful barrel. And in the second one he'll snipe your balloon so you plummet to your death if you raise the wrong color flag, the worst part is that in the second game he can juke you more than once with the flags. And when he cuts the rope or shoots down your balloon, you can briefly catch a glimpse of his emotionless face before he mercilessly kills your character.
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I still think Shy Guy is the best choice for a Yoshi rep, even if he is just a species, but then again Yoshi & Waddle Dee are species too :cool:

Besides Kamek isn't a very unique choice like Shy Guy. Shy Guy implements all his various personas while Kamek is just another magic character, like we need another. She could always use Broom as her upward special and spawn enemies,
So basically, Kamek can spawn Shy Guy?
 

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Anyways, I'm trying not to seem single-sided, but what's with all the hate over Divine, it seems everyone of his posts gets contradicted, tbh, sure sometimes he has post most people don't agree, but it seems everyone of his posts becomes a flame war, even when it's joke... TBH, it's not all his fault, sure sometimes it could be his, but other times it's the rest but people this is a community, a forum, can we try to keep the flame wars at a minimal on this thread... That is all I have to say.
 

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Wow, I was unaware that I am unable to STATE MY OPINIONS and that, instead, I have to conform to mainstream society... I follow my own agenda, not that of yours, but mine, so don't dictate to me what I should say and don't say. I don't follow everything GoldenYu says, or what hotfeet says, or what Noah J. Linderer says, but what i say, because I don't follow mainstream society - I'm a shepard, not a sheep, a leader, not a follower. I have EVERY right to speak my mind, even if my opinions isn't your opinion, because it is my democratic right as an American citizen to be able to state my opnions, however popular or unpopular, because it is justice. Moving on!
Well that escalated quicker than the speed of light...
 

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Shy Guy is a ****ing merciless SOB in Mario Party.

In the first one if you mess up he'll cut the rope and your only lifeline, then you just drift away into a boundless ocean whilst floating on your pitiful barrel. And in the second one he'll snipe your balloon so you plummet to your death if you raise the wrong color flag, the worst part is that in the second game he can juke you more than once with the flags. And when he cuts the rope or shoots down your balloon, you can briefly catch a glimpse of his emotionless face before he mercilessly kills your character.
/rant
I'm reporting this as spam. Next time, stay on topic, and don't go off the rails rambling about Shy Guy like this. It does the discussion no good, except for allowing the precedence of everybody making jokes with each other, instead of discussing roster predictions properly. I hope you've learned your lesson, please. Thanks. :)
 

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Kamek has almost NO CHANCE of being a playable character. None. Why? Because there are FAR MORE DESERVING contenders than Kamek. Examples include: Ridley, King K Rool, Lloyd, Shulk, Pacman, Mewtwo, and Hell, even GENO deserves it more than Kamek. Don't let you Yoshi-esque bias for the Yoshi universe get in the way of critical thinking and logicalness. Kamek would be lucky to be an AT, let alone a playable character.
What happened to stating your opinion? sheesh
 

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Kamek has almost NO CHANCE of being a playable character. None. Why? Because there are FAR MORE DESERVING contenders than Kamek.
I really don't think that kamek has NO chance. probably about 35% or something. but he is the most deserving yoshi rep.

Examples include: Ridley, King K Rool, Lloyd, Shulk, Pacman, Mewtwo, and Hell, even GENO deserves it more than Kamek.
ALL RIGHT. here's the thing. I HIGHLY DOUBT that characters like Geno and Lloyd are more deserving than kamek. everyone else except for maybe pac-man SHOULD be in before Kamek. I respect that.

Don't let you Yoshi-esque bias for the Yoshi universe get in the way of critical thinking and logicalness.
FYI, my most fav series isn't even yoshi. it's DKC. and then pokemon. and then smash. and then mario. THEN yoshi. I'm not THAT biased. the whole reason I even support him so much is because I think he's severely underrated.
Kamek would be lucky to be an AT, let alone a playable character.
I'm pretty lucky, so maybe it'll rub off on him :p
 

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Anyways, I'm trying not to seem single-sided, but what's with all the hate over Divine, it seems everyone of his posts gets contradicted, tbh, sure sometimes he has post most people don't agree, but it seems everyone of his posts becomes a flame war, even when it's joke... TBH, it's not all his fault, sure sometimes it could be his, but other times it's the rest but people this is a community, a forum, can we try to keep the flame wars at a minimal on this thread... That is all I have to say.
Well I dont hate him I DO find his personality a bit on the whiny and self righteous side is kindoff annoying to be honest but I guess my post was little offensive I do apologize for that.
 

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I'm reporting this as spam. Next time, stay on topic, and don't go off the rails rambling about Shy Guy like this. It does the discussion no good, except for allowing the precedence of everybody making jokes with each other, instead of discussing roster predictions properly. I hope you've learned your lesson, please. Thanks. :)
And once again, Divine overexaggerates the issue of staying on topic and a simple comment relating to a character we were discussing!
 

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Take a shot every time DD ******* about people being off topic and wastes the poor moderators time by reporting it for spam.

Also, are we taking about Shy Guy in SSB4? Because he's my favorite video game character and I think he makes a great Yoshi rep, but a 2nd Yoshi rep is out of the question.

I'm reporting this as spam. Next time, stay on topic, and don't go off the rails rambling about Shy Guy like this. It does the discussion no good, except for allowing the precedence of everybody making jokes with each other, instead of discussing roster predictions properly. I hope you've learned your lesson, please. Thanks. :)
This is why we hate you. This is one of the many reasons why we all hate you. And I feel bad for the moderators who's time is wasted every time you report someone for expressing opinion that isn't necessarily on the exact topic of it's above post.
 
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