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Plenty of characters do that.



Wow this guy just joined and that was your first comment towards him?
all I typed was bull**** I don't see whats wrong with that its not like i'm calling him anything

Thing is.... Mario will always be the main character of the Mario franchise... and the Mario franchise will never die unless Nintendo goes bankrupt...

The Pokémon franchise also will never die for the same reasons... but the Pokémon characters except Pikachu are always flavors of the month.
your point was people will get tired of the same characters over the years but people still haven't gotten tired of the main 12 so why is Pokemon different (i'm talking about people not getting bored of the moves of characters now that I think about it I think you mean the character itself not the moves)
 

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Thing is.... Mario will always be the main character of the Mario franchise... and the Mario franchise will never die unless Nintendo goes bankrupt...

The Pokémon franchise also will never die for the same reasons... but the Pokémon characters except Pikachu are always flavors of the month.
Charizard, Eevee and Mewtwo would like to have a word with you on that...
 

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Not in the slightest actually...


Boom, there's your Ridley. Hunched posture, shorter tail, less lanky limbs, the smallest design he's had in years, etc.
they
good I am really hoping ridley is in this game. Metroid is sorely underrepresented and he is the character I want to see
 

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Is Mewtwo like Mario or Captain Falcon? *****, please XD
You need to be more specific about the standard of how he fits in. What do Mario and C. Falcon have in common... OK they're playable in smash... They're humans... And they punch stuff. Lucario certainly does fit well into the smashverse but as far as I'm concerned mewtwo does too... AND to the same extent.
 

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Charizard and Mewtwo would like to have a word with you on that...
I meant flavors of the month in the eyes of the Pokémon Company, not in the eyes of Pokémon/Smash fans who are wearing rose-colored glasses.
 

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Mah new roster.


Do note that I chose Kanto female trainer because I like her design the best, idealy it would actually be 2 multigen trainers with one repping gens 1-3 and the other gens 4-6.
And once again I meant to put only Chrom in there but wasn't paying attention so count that slot as just Chrom. :L
Have fun.
 

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Mah new roster.


Do note that I chose Kanto female trainer because I like her design the best, idealy it would actually be 2 multigen trainers with one repping gens 1-3 and the other gens 4-6.
And once again I meant to put only Chrom in there but wasn't paying attention so count that slot as just Chrom. :L
Have fun.
I like it.

I'm really iffy on Simon's chances though.
 

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I meant flavors of the month in the eyes of the Pokémon Company, not in the eyes of Pokémon/Smash fans who are wearing rose-colored glasses.
Considering they're still using Charizard in the anime after all this time, Mewtwo is still big within the games and is the legendary with the most movies dedicated to it, and Eevee is still big in the games and the anime, I fail to see how that works. Sure, Pikachu's the mascot, but the only pokemon that really ever lost its time in the spotlight was Jigglypuff.
 

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I really don't understand what Mario has to do with Lucario
What...?

"Lucario is good at fighting so that's why he should be in over Mewtwo. If you disagree, you think Mario shouldn't be in Smash Bros. as well."

Did you even read that before posting it? It makes no lick of sense...
Just look at their move sets. Very similar, no? >_>

Also watch there https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PL0A83AA64CAAD3562&v=8ZDgjjDnWLM&t=96
 

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Considering they're still using Charizard in the anime after all this time, Mewtwo is still big within the games and is the legendary with the most movies dedicated to it, and Eevee is still big in the games and the anime, I fail to see how that works. Sure, Pikachu's the mascot, but the only pokemon that really ever lost its time in the spotlight was Jigglypuff.
now you got me thinking what if Pikachu never became the mascot of pokemon what if it was Eevee
 

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Considering they're still using Charizard in the anime after all this time, Mewtwo is still big within the games and is the legendary with the most movies dedicated to it, and Eevee is still big in the games and the anime, I fail to see how that works. Sure, Pikachu's the mascot, but the only pokemon that really ever lost its time in the spotlight was Jigglypuff.
DUNSPARCE HAD A WHOLE EPISODE DEDICATED TO IT! IT LOST IT'S THUNDEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR D:
 

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Mah new roster.


Do note that I chose Kanto female trainer because I like her design the best, idealy it would actually be 2 multigen trainers with one repping gens 1-3 and the other gens 4-6.
And once again I meant to put only Chrom in there but wasn't paying attention so count that slot as just Chrom. :L
Have fun.
as long as one of the PT uses Totodile its a good roster
 

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now you got me thinking what if Pikachu never became the mascot of pokemon what if it was Eevee
Interesting thought, and well... Other then the fact that Eevee would be less entertaining then pikachu if it never evolved (electricty>ummm sand.) there wouldn't be much of a difference :p
 

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Also, wouldn't it be strange to have Sonic return without Snake?
I'd actually prefer Snake return with Sonic (Though if I had my way there's be no cuts from Brawl whatsoever). Even if that means no 4th 3rd Party character. Snake, Sonic, and Megaman would be good enough. But if one of them must go between the two 3rd parties in Brawl. Sonic just has more popularity/priority.
 

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I don't know how to put this

Lucario's normal attack animation look like Mario's

If you couldn't tell the differences, then look at youtube providing Lucario with Mario's moveset, some moves would look like it was also Lucario's to you, rather than just Mario's. Never mind if you don't understand me :/
 

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now you got me thinking what if Pikachu never became the mascot of pokemon what if it was Eevee
Well, I don't know honestly, especially since it wasn't Eevee that was the runner-up for main mascot of the franchise (Although now it could be seen that way) at the time, they actually wanted to use Clefairy...which would very freaking odd if you ask me...:ohwell:

DUNSPARCE HAD A WHOLE EPISODE DEDICATED TO IT! IT'S LOST IT'S THUNDEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR D:
Not funny. What I meant is the fact that Jigglypuff has even lost its gag reel, the main point it was used in the anime to begin with, it lost it to Marill. When was the last time we had Jigglypuff in the anime?
 

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I don't know how to put this

Lucario's normal attack animation look like Mario's

If you couldn't tell the differences, then look at youtube providing Lucario with Mario's moveset, some moves would look like it was Lucario's to you, rather than Mario's. Never mind if you don't understand me :/
WOW THEY BOTH PUNCH STUFF!
 

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Do note that I chose Kanto female trainer because I like her design the best, idealy it would actually be 2 multigen trainers with one repping gens 1-3 and the other gens 4-6.
And once again I meant to put only Chrom in there but wasn't paying attention so count that slot as just Chrom. :L
Have fun.
I don't know about Mach Rider, and Bomberman would get in over Simon Belmont in a heart beat. I say maybe swap Dixie for K. Rool and definitely replace Toon Zelda with Takamaru.Get rid of Pac-Man and bring back Lucas :p
 

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I didn't want to many characters in the roster due to the double PTs. :/
Ah, I hadn't see you had two PTs. Though I'm pretty sure there will be only one PT. Having another kinda robs the original one of his uniqueness. :/
 

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There were other Anime appearances and he's pretty popular in game. What made Lucario so popular?
His movie, his many appearances in games and anime, his mascot role on pokemon smash, the hype of him being one of the first pokemon from 4th gen, his merchandise that to this day gamefreak still uses, and to top it off hes a Gen mascot, thats everything that made him popular and thats whats keeping him popular (Not to mention relevant) Genesect only has the movie. Darn my Lucario fanboism is showing.
 

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Not funny. What I meant is the fact that Jigglypuff has even lost its gag reel, the main point it was used in the anime to begin with, it lost it to Marill. When was the last time we had Jigglypuff in the anime?
Again the only reason Jiggs is coming back is due to being a mainstay of the smash series it's irrelevance to pokemon doesn't matter because it's relevant to smash -_-
 

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I don't know about Mach Rider, and Bomberman would get in over Simon Belmont in a heart beat. I say maybe swap Dixie for K. Rool and definitely replace Toon Zelda with Takamaru.Get rid of Pac-Man and bring back Lucas :p
I have Mach Rider over Taku due to preference. Honestly Simon has a better hance then Bomberman imo. Dixie VS Rool is all about personal prefrence, I go with Dixie as I have the feeling she has a better chance. Toon Zelda is staying as 5th Zelda rep. :L Earthbound only really deserve one rep. :L Also Pac-Man just seems to likely to me, despite me rather having other characters. :/
 

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I don't know how to put this

Lucario's normal attack animation look like Mario's

If you couldn't tell the differences, then look at youtube providing Lucario with Mario's moveset, some moves would look like it was Lucario's to you, rather than Mario's. Never mind if you don't understand me :/
The point here is that your logic is faulty.
Lucario is similar to Mario therefore he's equally as important? That's a bit of a stretch.

I mean, Lucario does have a good chance of coming back, I think most people would agree with that. It's just that your argument doesn't make much sense.
 

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Ah, I hadn't see you had two PTs. Though I'm pretty sure there will be only one PT. Having another kinda robs the original one of his uniqueness. :/
Very true, good sir. The trainer's Pokemon gimmick is what got him in. If we got another Trainer, it would make his unique gimmick stale. I say just have the female Pokemon trainer as an alternate skin.
 

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Well, I don't know honestly, especially since it wasn't Eevee that was the runner-up for main mascot of the franchise (Although now it could be seen that way) at the time, they actually wanted to use Clefairy...which would very freaking odd if you ask me...:ohwell:



Not funny. What I meant is the fact that Jigglypuff has even lost its gag reel, the main point it was used in the anime to begin with, it lost it to Marill. When was the last time we had Jigglypuff in the anime?
ya clefairy would be weird
Eevee I think might have been in the running ti become the mascot eevee is your rivals pokemon in Yellow and your starter in one of the GC games

Interesting thought, and well... Other then the fact that Eevee would be less entertaining then pikachu if it never evolved (electricty>ummm sand.) there wouldn't be much of a difference :p
he would still have his evolutions and they probably would have advertised the eeveelutions more than they did Raichu
 

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Again the only reason Jiggs is coming back is due to being a mainstay of the smash series it's irrelevance to pokemon doesn't matter because it's relevant to smash -_-
It's been said before by many others so I'll say it myself, being part of the main 12 does not guarantee you a spot in Smash Bros, especially since Ness was planned to be replaced in Melee and Jigglypuff was such low priority in Brawl. The only way Jigglypuff will get into Smash 4 is if its still as easy to create as it was in past titles, having to create two different models for both versions, and if they're willing to design Jigglypuff with new moves which would take more time. Regardless, Jigglypuff is in jeopardy at this point.

His movie, his many appearances in games and anime, his mascot role on pokemon smash, the hype of him being one of the first pokemon from 4th gen, his merchandise that to this day gamefreak still uses, and to top it off hes a Gen mascot, thats everything that made him popular and thats whats keeping him popular (Not to mention relevant) Genesect only has the movie. Darn my Lucario fanboism is showing.
You're forgetting the fact that alot of Lucario's popularity stems from his appearance in Brawl. If it wasn't for that appearance, I highly doubt Lucario would be held in such high regards as he is now.

ya clefairy would be weird
Eevee I think might have been in the running ti become the mascot eevee is your rivals pokemon in Yellow and your starter in one of the GC games
Eevee is probably considered one of the alternate main mascots of the franchise, as it's the pokemon that's been the starter pokemon in the most games in the franchise, has been obtainable in every generation and is the first pokemon to have that title so far, it's used as the main rival pokemon in Yellow and a bit in the anime, it's always huge in the anime, and it's a really easily identifiable pokemon like that of Pikachu, not to mention it's the only pokemon whose evolutionary family is all very popular, being the most popular/famous family of Pokemon in the entire series.
 

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Ah, I hadn't see you had two PTs. Though I'm pretty sure there will be only one PT. Having another kinda robs the original one of his uniqueness. :/
My reasoning for it is so Pokemon can finally have all gens repped making the Pokemon Company happy. Although we could amke a gen 1-6 multi gen trainer and give him 6 Pokemon also. :p
 

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he would still have his evolutions and they probably would have advertised the eeveelutions more than they did Raichu
Again but would Ash actually evolve his eevee? No, therefor they would probably have an episode reflecting on that which would be similar to that eeveelution episode that already exists except it's not some random guy's eevee it's Ash's :p Personally as much as I don't really care for pikachu he's certainly a bit of a better fit.
 

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It's been said before by many others so I'll say it myself, being part of the main 12 does not guarantee you a spot in Smash Bros, especially since Ness was planned to be replaced in Melee and Jigglypuff was such low priority in Brawl. The only way Jigglypuff will get into Smash 4 is if its still as easy to create as it was in past titles, having to create two different models for both versions, and if they're willing to design Jigglypuff with new moves which would take more time. Regardless, Jigglypuff is in jeopardy at this point.



You're forgetting the fact that alot of Lucario's popularity stems from his appearance in Brawl. If it wasn't for that appearance, I highly doubt Lucario would be held in such high regards as he is now.
By saying Lucario is popular because of smash isn't something you should credit in his popularity. If Genesect was in Smash HE would become almost just as popular. It's like saying "Hey, I have an idea to get rich, first we'll need a ton of money!"
 

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Considering they're still using Charizard in the anime after all this time, Mewtwo is still big within the games and is the legendary with the most movies dedicated to it, and Eevee is still big in the games and the anime, I fail to see how that works. Sure, Pikachu's the mascot, but the only pokemon that really ever lost its time in the spotlight was Jigglypuff.
They are not still big in the games and in the anime... more accurately would be... they are big again in the games and in the anime.
 

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Again but would Ash actually evolve his eevee? No, therefor they would probably have an episode reflecting on that which would be similar to that eeveelution episode that already exists except it's not some random guy's eevee it's Ash's :p Personally as much as I don't really care for pikachu he's certainly a bit of a better fit.
what they would have done is give Ash,Misty and Brock an eevee and turn them into different eeveelutions
Ash- Jolteon
Misty- Vaporeon
Brock- Falreon

i'm more of a fan of Pikachu but eevee could have been a cool mascot
 
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