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Hate to double post, but here is something I just noticed.

In the reveal trailer, at about 1:25, Pit launches himself off the platform with what appears to be a new up b.

Now, I know this is nowhere near enough evidence to support this theory, but what are our thoughts on Pit not having his old up b (which was based on Palutena's magic no less) because Palutena is a fighter? I know this is probably a really dumb theory. I'm just throwing it out there.
Pit's Up B is pretty much the same. It just has other functions now. Maybe it has multiple different animations, seeing as he took off into the air after running.
 

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Hate to double post, but here is something I just noticed.

In the reveal trailer, at about 1:25, Pit launches himself off the platform with what appears to be a new up b.

Now, I know this is nowhere near enough evidence to support this theory, but what are our thoughts on Pit not having his old up b (which was based on Palutena's magic no less) because Palutena is a fighter? I know this is probably a really dumb theory. I'm just throwing it out there.
I agree with Habanero. Smash is so not canon that it's hard to find some sort of theory with it. It's too early to tell, but I think his Up B has turned into the Power of Flight. But, only with a second or two of footage, ti's hard to tell. I think it will keep the same effect as it did in Brawl, but rather just be cleaned up. Still, this doesn't prove or disprove anything, I believe.
 
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Oh, okay.

It doesn't do anything to chances, but I wouldn't be so sure on relevancy yet. Not for this game (for obvious reasons). THough, I will say this, it doesn't hurt to say the least.
Doesn't hurt, but doesn't help.
 
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We can't be so sure, but given the data we have, it probably doesn't help much if at all. They could still come up with a unique moveset and then go "lol cut"
If the fact Jigglypuff was catchable in every main game prior to Brawl (in other words, actual relevancy) didn't stop her from being low-priority nor did FR/LG and Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon save Mewtwo, being among multiple Pokémon gaining the newly introduced type will not help.
 

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If the fact Jigglypuff was catchable in every main game prior to Brawl (in other words, actual relevancy) didn't stop her from being low-priority nor did FR/LG and Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon save Mewtwo, being among multiple Pokémon gaining the newly introduced type will not help.
Can't really argue that logic much. Not that I thought the Fairy Type thing made a huge difference in the first place.
 

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Kinda random, but on the subject of pokemon ive always kinda wanted to see snorlax playable. And for him to be ridiculous with his playstyle, for instance he would wind up and use all of his moves only to fall asleep during or after they are performed. Sort of like narcolepsy, he would throw a mega punch with such force that would throw him forward and he would just remain sleeping on the floor after its done. Or a body slam that would just let him remain on top of who ever he landed on.
 

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Good afternoon all! Glad to see a peaceful setting, and yes TheCreator, I can draw Mewtwo wearing Majora's Mask for you. :)

As for the discussion, it looks like a pokemon discussion. Well then, I have this...


If we're looking for the importance of Pokemon representation, it looks like the new Tretta Lab will be coming with a starting pack of Mewtwo, Eevee and Lucario, three really popular pokemon. Quite the interesting ordeal, as it looks like the Eevee family is really being pushed in products and the anime at this point.
 

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Im bored so im uploading my roster in the works not really my favorite picks to choose but i have been listening to you guys and I think this might be a good one that alot of people can agree on.
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So like it? Yes? No? Maybe so? Or is there something you think could be changed?
I want to tell you props for having Starfy. As much as I want her, you all know why I don't like the idea of Toon Zelda. Not to mention Toon Zelda is better as a DLC Character. Despite that, it's about the same as everyone else's roster so there's not much to comment on.

This is precisely why I feel Snake is going to stay. Do you guys really think Sakurai would straight up tell his friend to screw off like that? I would surely think not.
I believe the favor was to have Snake be playable in Brawl for once, not to make him a veteran of the series for life, that's quite and enormous favor. And isn't that how most Third-Parties get into games sometimes and then they don't reappear in the next installment. I wouldn't be surprised if Banjo was in Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing because Microsoft bugged SEGA to put in their new mascot that they destroyed.

Besides, she's kind of the joke character of Smash.
Pichu and JigglyPuff would like to have a word with you. (also she got in because she was a hot Pokemon at the time, especially in the Anime.)

Toon Link's role is just to be a clone to Link because some people preferred a faster version of him.
Toon Links role is to represent another younger version of Link because there are so many of them, and the Toon Series is pretty beloved to Zelda fans.
 

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I believe the favor was to have Snake be playable in Brawl for once, not to make him a veteran of the series for life, that's quite and enormous favor.
At this point, I'd say Sakurai keeping Snake would also do a favour to MGS fans and Smash fans in general.

It would give the PS fanboys a reason to buy a Wii U. :p

Other than that, he has a unique moveset that no Nintendo character can properly inherit.
 

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Good afternoon all! Glad to see a peaceful setting, and yes TheCreator, I can draw Mewtwo wearing Majora's Mask for you. :)

As for the discussion, it looks like a pokemon discussion. Well then, I have this...


If we're looking for the importance of Pokemon representation, it looks like the new Tretta Lab will be coming with a starting pack of Mewtwo, Eevee and Lucario, three really popular pokemon. Quite the interesting ordeal, as it looks like the Eevee family is really being pushed in products and the anime at this point.
Good to see Luc is still being advertised even better he's long side Mewtwo.
 

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I really love this roster. I would only say replace Starfy for Ridley, but that's already said and done. And I LOVE the Phantom/Toon Zelda idea. A fast, nimble fighter like Toon Link, and then a sluggish powerhouse. Love it.
Replace Toon Zelda with Ridley and keep Starfy.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, why do you dislike Toon Zelda?
I don't mind you asking. The answer is I don't. I just don't think she should be in the game. I think it's excessive and unnecessary. We've made our point with Toon Link. It's like having Paper Mario and then adding Paper Luigi and Paper Peach. We don't need more than 1 person to represent the Toon version of the series. Toon Zelda would be kind of a waste of a slot that could be used for other characters, even though I'd love to play as her.

Yes, I'm aware she was planned for Brawl.
 

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Unless his mention is hidden deep within this thread, I find the lack of Simon Belmont disturbing
 

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Hey guys, this is my first post on this site :), so I hope this goes well. I'm going to upload my roster predictions here, which I admit is a little controversial, but here it is anyways:

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Red = Locked
Yellow = DLC (if there is)

First off, you'll notice the controversial aspect - Jigglypuff and the Earthbound series is removed entirely from the game. When Sakurai said cuts might be made, he isn't kidding, and quite frankly, I'm sick to death hearing about the arguments "ZOMG, they original characters, Sakurai never cut them LOL" (Ness almost getting cut for Lucas entirely destroys that worthless argument) and that every character from Brawl will return. As to why this may happen, Jigglypuff is a useless slot waster of a joke character, and quite frankly the Earthbound series is not only dead, but also irrelevant and unnecessary to the contribution of the gaming industry (please don't get butt-hurt over my opinion, it's just that, opinion :urg: ). The truth of the matter may be difficult to face, but they'll get over it eventually, especially with the better newcomers taking over and contributing more to the series overall than Jigglypuff and Earthbound (cough, Isaac, Lloyd, Takamaru, Dillon, PACMAN, cough). :ohwell:

Here are my other reasons:

Mario Series: Obviously, all the major Mario characters will return, but I think they'll finally add some newcomers.
- Toad: Honestly, this is a long overdue process, as Toad is not only a major character from the Mario series (from being a supporting character in storylines to actually being playable in several platformers) he brings a uniqueness to the Mario universe with his potential moveset and character. Plus, he's highly requested and popular, and that's important.
- Bowser Jr.: Same reasons as Toad, as well as Bowser Jr. bringing a Diddy Kong like factor to Bowser's Donkey Kong. Also highly requested and popular among Smash.

Donkey Kong Series: This series could use some representing.
- King K. Rool: This is one of the major all-star characters (other than Ridley) that not only need to be added on the roster, but also adds more heavyweights to the mix. For me, it was a toss-up between this and Dixie Kong, and while I think she would be fun, I don't think Donkey Kong warrants two newcomers in place of new series to be added (like Lloyd, Isaac, etc. instead)

Zelda Series: Here we go with an unpopular prediction.
- Impa and Zelda: A major shake-up to the roster is finally removing Sheik, an outdated and irrelevant character, for someone more recent and interesting, like Impa. This also may seem controversial, but what's done must be done for the sake of moving on for the series (Sheik works for OoT Zelda, not SS Zelda, it makes no sense). Impa not only brings balance to Zelda by not making the character a one-sided never-usable (who ever uses Zelda with Sheik rather than just Sheik), but also brings Skyward Sword up-to-date in the Smash. Sheik is popular, don't get me wrong, but its necessary - eventually Zelda needs to update herself to current standards, for the better of herself. Just make Sheik an AT or alternate attire to appease the fans with this uneasy decision. Plus, and I'm not trying to be offensive, but Sheik comes off as a ******, and that may send a wrong message to kids playing this. Just my opinion, though. :ohwell:
- Vaati: He is still a highly requested character, and plus brings a magical-like quality as a mage-user. although I'm a little skeptical if he will even make it. I'm 25-75 on this one, because for me it's more wishful thinking than anything else. I can dream, can I?

Kid Icarus Series: This is Sakurai's work here, so obviously he's going to go overboard with representing his series. Sakurai's always had favoritism to his characters in the games (Metaknight's overall awesome spamming, etc.).
- Palutena: I don't even need to make an argument for this one - this is Sakurai's precious series, and if there is going to be one extra representative off a highly popular and successful game, it's Palutena. It's not a matter of if, but when.
- Hades: It may seem far-fetched, but the Icarus series could use a badass villain with an interesting aura about him. (Don't give me the "OMG, LOL Sakurai is too humble for his series LOL, OMG" - he's not, and there's nothing to be ashamed off for showing off his series proudly). Hades would be a necessary villain to represent his universe, and could potentiall be what Ganondorf could have.

Metroid: This series is LONG OVERDUE an extra representative - the question is, though, how many can you add with a series like this. There is only one true answer to this (although Anthony Higgs may disagree):
- Ridley: Just like King K. Rool, Ridley is long overdue a shot as a playable characters. Size isn't even a factor, as re-sizing's been done before, Ridley has a large moveset poll to choose from, he can add another heavyweight to the series (with aerial moves, no doubt) and plus Ridley is a FLYING DRAGON ALIEN BOUNTY HUNTER!!! What's not to love? I'm dead-set on this one. :cool:

Star Fox Series: I think the series doesn't need any more newcomers because it's practically complete (other than the massive furry obsession for Krystal, which is highly scariness). I do wish the clonish aspects would be removed altogether, though.
- Slippy: Same reasons as Toad practically. Plus, how can he be a clone of Fox? He's guaranteed a unique moveset! Unlike Toad, though, Slippy has a sizable hatebase. :dizzy: I don't understand the hate the character receives, so don't think I'm ignoring the hate base, because I'm not. That could get in the way. Like I said, I'm not too confident in Slippy, but like Vaati, I hope he makes it.

Pokemon: The way I see it, generations 5 and 6 will be both represented with a newcomer and a returning fighter.
- Zoroark: Popular, representing 5th generation, awesome look, unique dark style ultra shadow moves, ability to copy abilities or moves like Kirby, quick and nimble, starred in movies and what's not to love about Zoroark.
- Mewtwo: If any veteran (other than Roy) is going to make it in for a return from an absence, it's Mewtwo. Highly requested, still popular, unique diversity among others, recent resurgence with the six generations, similar reasons to Zoroark, and what's also not to love about Mewtwo. Plus, potential second form will be interesting, and Sakurai is considering his inclusion. :)

Fire Emblem: Honestly, I really don't care much about this irrelevant series, and the only reason its requested in Smash is because 1. Marth, Roy, and Ike are awesome (but a little gay) and 2. Sakurai's strange hard-on for the series. Either way, though, the current pattern is Marth and another newcoming Fire Emblem character, and I don''t see it changing at this rate.
- Khrom: New guy, whatever, next. Honestly, though, three blue-haired swordfighters? Boring, predictable, and obviousness. Next. :facepalm:

F-Zero:
- Black Shadow: Falcon desperately needs another representative. Goroh might also work, but Takumaru gets in the way of another samurai user.

New series characters: Lloyd Irving, Takumaru, Dillon, Isaac, Mii, and PACMAN all bring not only new series into this, but also new aspects of fighting styles into the mix, thus intensifying the interest level of Smash much more so.
Lloyd: Justice bringer, baby, Project X.
Takamaru: Eastern-style samurai techniques, Famicon.
Dillon: Armadillo moves like rolling, Western-style to the mix, 3ds shop.
Isaac: Swordsman/Magic user, Golden Sun.
Mii: CUSTOMIZATION. Besides, who wouldn't want to kick ass as yourself.
PACMAN: Enough said, it's PACMAN. Plus, the stages would be awesome. :upsidedown:

As for DLC, they are just characters I think are either better off as DLC or just barely couldn't make it.


Well, that's my predictions. :) So, what does everyone think? Like it, love it, hate it, whatever it? This is my first post, and I'm excited to be a part of this community. Send me your regards! :b:
 

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I doubt we will get 3 KI reps Sakurai doesn't like to over rep his series it took 3 games to get more than 1 Kirby character

CF probably isn't getting another rep sadly

I don't think we will get 4 SF characters but you picked Slippy so I like it

We won't get a 5th gen rep if we didn't get a 3rd gen rep and taking out Jiggs is a bad idea also I guess taking out Lucario is a bad idea also hes very popular

I don't think we will get Llyod

I don't think we will have Toad and Baby Bowser

I say the list is ok you took out Jiggs but you added Slippy
 

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Hey guys, this is my first post on this site :), so I hope this goes well. I'm going to upload my roster predictions here, which I admit is a little controversial, but here it is anyways:

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Mario Series: Obviously, all the major Mario characters will return, but I think they'll finally add some newcomers.
- Toad: Honestly, this is a long overdue process, as Toad is not only a major character from the Mario series (from being a supporting character in storylines to actually being playable in several platformers) he brings a uniqueness to the Mario universe with his potential moveset and character. Plus, he's highly requested and popular, and that's important.
- Bowser Jr.: Same reasons as Toad, as well as Bowser Jr. bringing a Diddy Kong like factor to Bowser's Donkey Kong. Also highly requested and popular among Smash.
Toad should certainly be in; he'd complete the original classic Mario cast, and the SMB2 cast.
I hope he can lift and carry opponents over his head like Donkey Kong.

Zelda Series: Here we go with an unpopular prediction.
- Impa and Zelda: A major shake-up to the roster is finally removing Sheik, an outdated and irrelevant character, for someone more recent and interesting, like Impa. This also may seem controversial, but what's done must be done for the sake of moving on for the series (Sheik works for OoT Zelda, not SS Zelda, it makes no sense). Impa not only brings balance to Zelda by not making the character a one-sided never-usable (who ever uses Zelda with Sheik rather than just Sheik), but also brings Skyward Sword up-to-date in the Smash. Sheik is popular, don't get me wrong, but its necessary - eventually Zelda needs to update herself to current standards, for the better of herself. Just make Sheik an AT or alternate attire to appease the fans with this uneasy decision. Plus, and I'm not trying to be offensive, but Sheik comes off as a ******, and that may send a wrong message to kids playing this. Just my opinion, though. :ohwell:
You should meet Diddy Kong. (the user, not the character)

Kid Icarus Series: This is Sakurai's work here, so obviously he's going to go overboard with representing his series. Sakurai's always had favoritism to his characters in the games (Metaknight's overall awesome spamming, etc.).
- Palutena: I don't even need to make an argument for this one - this is Sakurai's precious series, and if there is going to be one extra representative off a highly popular and successful game, it's Palutena. It's not a matter of if, but when.
- Hades: It may seem far-fetched, but the Icarus series could use a badass villain with an interesting aura about him. (Don't give me the "OMG, LOL Sakurai is too humble for his series LOL, OMG" - he's not, and there's nothing to be ashamed off for showing off his series proudly). Hades would be a necessary villain to represent his universe, and could potentiall be what Ganondorf could have.
Sakurai didn't include more Kirby characters until Brawl, so I think he is in fact humble about stuff he's made. (although he only made Uprising and not the Kid Icarus series as a whole)

Fire Emblem: Honestly, I really don't care much about this irrelevant series, and the only reason its requested in Smash is because 1. Marth, Roy, and Ike are awesome (but a little gay) and 2. Sakurai's strange hard-on for the series. Either way, though, the current pattern is Marth and another newcoming Fire Emblem character, and I don''t see it changing at this rate.
- Khrom: New guy, whatever, next. Honestly, though, three blue-haired swordfighters? Boring, predictable, and obviousness. Next. :facepalm:
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I...have no words.

Also, his name isn't Khrom, it's Corn.

Well, that's my predictions. :) So, what does everyone think? Like it, love it, hate it, whatever it? This is my first post, and I'm excited to be a part of this community. Send me your regards! :b:
It's...dumb. XD
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see many of those characters in Smash, but I'm not sure if they'll be in SSB4.

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I don't mind you asking. The answer is I don't. I just don't think she should be in the game. I think it's excessive and unnecessary. We've made our point with Toon Link. It's like having Paper Mario and then adding Paper Luigi and Paper Peach.

Howz abouts Toon Ganondorf then? :p
 

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Hey guys, this is my first post on this site :), so I hope this goes well. I'm going to upload my roster predictions here, which I admit is a little controversial, but here it is anyways:
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Well, that's my predictions. :) So, what does everyone think? Like it, love it, hate it, whatever it? This is my first post, and I'm excited to be a part of this community. Send me your regards! :b:

First and foremost, Welcome to Smash Boards! Anyways...

To start off the roster is kinda big (53 including transformations, and I can't tell if you cut ZSS)

While I respect your opinion, the removal of the Mother reps entirely is just not gonna happen. Sakurai has never just taken a franchise completely out of Smash, and, like it or not, at least one of them is staying.

Jiggs is more than just a joke character. It's a pretty popular 1st gen Pokemon, and, in a sense, is the joke character, and is pretty much the reason they exist in the first place. I doubt it'll be leaving anytime soon.

The Mario series getting 6 rep is a little much imo. I think its pretty much either or Toad and B Jr., the latter of which deserves it more, but he really doesn't need the pointless Shadow Mario tack on.

If Impa does get in, she'll probably won't be a Zelda transformation because they are not the same person. Sheik isn't really outdated either, as she was planned to be in Twilight Princess, and is a decent representation of the Sheikah in general.

What's the point of Vaati if you cut Toon Link?

I'd rather have Magnus over Hades. Just personal preference really.

4 Starfox reps is pushing it, and, as sad as it is, Krystal would get in before Slippy.

Lloyd and Pacman is another either or dilemma, and gives the roster 5 3rd parties, which is unrealistic.

Dillion just seems unlikely in general.

...and Little mac deserves to be in the original roster

Good beginning roster aside from the things I mentioned. 5/10
 

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I've updated my roster, so I with that said...

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I don't have Snake or Sonic since they were guest characters, and those characters will more often than not only be in that one game and that's it.
 

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ok new roster because no one liked kamek or me not adding King K.Rool (I did replace Kanto trainer with the Johto trainer because I like him more thats why)

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ok new roster because no one liked kamek or me not adding King K.Rool (I did replace Kanto trainer with the Johto trainer because I like him more thats why)

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No Sonic or Snake makes my heart hurt, Tingle and Waluigi wtf, 4 DK reps? eh it's possible. The exclusion of both Ridley and K. Rool is likely imho plz don't kill me 2 Pikmin reps seems unlikely. Out of curiosity, how are the Johto trainer's pokemon arranged?
 

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No Sonic or Snake makes my heart hurt, Tingle and Waluigi wtf, 4 DK reps? eh it's possible. The exclusion of both Ridley and K. Rool is likely imho plz don't kill me 2 Pikmin reps seems unlikely. Out of curiosity, how are the Johto trainer's pokemon arranged?
Johto is
Chikorita, Quilava and Feraligatr

I didn't add them because Sakurai said less 3rd parties and I wanted room for some of the Nintendo reps
Waluigi is awesone and Tingle is very popular he has his own games
4 DK reps because I think Dixie is getting in and every one wanting King K. Rool
2 Pikmin reps because the game series has gotten popular
 

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Johto is
Chikorita, Quilava and Feraligatr

I didn't add them because Sakurai said less 3rd parties and I wanted room for some of the Nintendo reps
Waluigi is awesone and Tingle is very popular he has his own games
4 DK reps because I think Dixie is getting in and every one wanting King K. Rool
2 Pikmin reps because the game series has gotten popular
I really doubt Megaman will be the only one.
But him over Toon Link or Impa, or anybody???
Waluigi is great and all but I think Toad/B Jr. is more likely
Yes, but that doesn't necessarily warrant another rep...Olimar returning is enough.
 

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I really doubt Megaman will be the only one.
But him over Toon Link or Impa, or anybody???
Waluigi is great and all but I think Toad/B Jr. is more likely
Yes, but that doesn't necessarily warrant another rep...Olimar returning is enough.
we will probably get Sonic but I didn't have enough room for him on my list so I said what ever
Tingle has his own game and I heard hes popular in japan so he does have a chance
I don't see Toad as a playable character and Bowser Jr. is lame that is my only reason to not add Bowser Jr.
there are new Pikmin he can use
 

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I was bored, so here's a new roster, enjoy.

Total characters: 50

Cut Characters: 1

Newcomers: 16

Newcomer list: Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, Paper Mario, Impa, Ridley, Eevee, Mewtwo, Chrom, Villager, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, Sukapon, Mega Man
 

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I was bored, so here's a new roster, enjoy.

Total characters: 50

Cut Characters: 1

Newcomers: 16

Newcomer list: Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, Paper Mario, Impa, Ridley, Eevee, Mewtwo, Chrom, Villager, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, Sukapon, Mega Man
getting rid of Jigglypuff :glare:
 

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getting rid of Jigglypuff :glare:
What can I say? Eevee's still incredibly popular, is loved by pretty much the entire world, and is one of the most advertise-pushing pokemon out there right now, in the anime, the new games, and the brand new Tretta set that comes with a starting set of Lucario, Mewtwo and Eevee. Not to mention that japanese vote on downloadable pokemon Black 2/White 2 where Eevee placed in the top 10, and the fact that Eevee has been available in almost every game in the franchise as either a gift, starter or just a catchable pokemon.
 

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I was bored, so here's a new roster, enjoy.

Total characters: 50

Cut Characters: 1

Newcomers: 16

Newcomer list: Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, Paper Mario, Impa, Ridley, Eevee, Mewtwo, Chrom, Villager, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Wii Fit Trainer, Sukapon, Mega Man
Still, why are you so insistent on cutting J- you know wat? Whatever *leaves*
 
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