Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Never played Other M, but I like the sleekness of the design. It weighs Samus down less (visually). The old design had too many lines on the suit, takes the focus from where it should be. But I like Brawl's Zero Suit Samus better.
Because seeing people fight can be entertaining. Especially when the topic is ultimately stupid.
Yeah, it does look more powerful, but I like the sleeker look because technology has progressed to where the Other M design make more sense.
Lol.
Yay!Lol.
I might have posted it if I had logged in earlier. Unfortunately, I overslept.
On the topic of clones, I believe that the problem is with the moveset, NOT the character. The character choices were fine, but they deserve more unique movesets. I don't mind clones tbh, though I would definitely like it if the Brawl semi-clones were luigified further.
Going to post my list as well.
I believe somewhere around 45 character slots on the selection screen is a really accurate guess, with somewhere in the range of 42 - 48 being what I expect. So I went right in the middle.
Only Brawl cut character is Pokemon Trainer, who would be a pain in the rear to program for the 3DS due to how labor intensive such a character would be. According to Melee development interviews, Pokemon Trainer was an idea for Melee, but wasn't implemented due to how labor intensive the character would be. I don't know how the Gamecube and the 3DS compare in terms of processing power, but I recall someone saying that the 3DS is weaker than the Gamecube in that department.
Newcomers, and reasons for including them are in the spoiler tag.
Bowser Jr. - Really unique character and has a lot of material to work with. He was rather popular pre-Brawl, though not appearing on the infamous Brawl poll, but he did have a large amount of supporters. I feel like he could be a really unique fighter using the paintbrush, because it's something he has that no one else has.
King K. Rool - Another really unique character. He's got the crown, the cannonballs, the jetpack/hovercraft thingy from DKC3 and the blunderbuss, not to mention DK64. There's a lot to work with here and it makes him a really unique fighter, not to mention a really popular one.
Mach Rider - A retro character, and one that I think Sakurai could take a lot of interest in. Moveset potential certainly exists, in the form of the gun, oil spills, the barrels, and the pixel cluster he takes on when it gets hit (recovery move). Has potential to be used after Smash 4 into a brand new game.
Takamaru - Another retro character, but this one has quite the fanbase behind him, scoring three votes on the Brawl poll (just as many as Toon Link). In his game, he has the katana, as well as fireballs and shoryukens, and his Nintendo Land game features Ninja Stars, so there is material here to work with too. Plus he's no longer Japanese only, due to Samurai Warriors 3.
Prince Sable - The last character I added. I wasn't really too sure at first, but I figured transformations for a frog and a snake really help him become unique. I wouldn't cycle through the forms ala Zelda/Sheik but would instead have him transform to execute the attack (ex. Grabbing has him go through a few frames of transformation to frog, then grabbing with the tongue). Other characters I considered for the spot were Duck Hunt Dog and Sukapon.
Little Mac - Seems like a really obvious one due to the Punch-Out stage. I don't know for sure how to make him a unique fighter, but I'm fairly certain the option is there.
Mewtwo - Is all but confirmed at this point, unless we magically get a new Pokemon movie before Smash 4's release that Sakurai has seen. It seems weird to have Awakened Mewtwo without the original form, so I have both. I'd imagine the transformation would take place once Mewtwo has reached high percentages, to keep things unique from Zelda and Samus.
Isaac - A popular Pre-Brawl character, and he still has some support around the world today. Using psynergy would make him a unique fighter, alongside the djinn, and he has a sword so the options are, again, present.
Other characters I considered were: Toad, Dixie Kong, Palutena, Ridley, Krystal and Roy.[/spoiler]
Going to post my list as well.
I believe somewhere around 45 character slots on the selection screen is a really accurate guess, with somewhere in the range of 42 - 48 being what I expect. So I went right in the middle.
Only Brawl cut character is Pokemon Trainer, who would be a pain in the rear to program for the 3DS due to how labor intensive such a character would be. According to Melee development interviews, Pokemon Trainer was an idea for Melee, but wasn't implemented due to how labor intensive the character would be. I don't know how the Gamecube and the 3DS compare in terms of processing power, but I recall someone saying that the 3DS is weaker than the Gamecube in that department.
Newcomers, and reasons for including them are in the spoiler tag.
Bowser Jr. - Really unique character and has a lot of material to work with. He was rather popular pre-Brawl, though not appearing on the infamous Brawl poll, but he did have a large amount of supporters. I feel like he could be a really unique fighter using the paintbrush, because it's something he has that no one else has.
King K. Rool - Another really unique character. He's got the crown, the cannonballs, the jetpack/hovercraft thingy from DKC3 and the blunderbuss, not to mention DK64. There's a lot to work with here and it makes him a really unique fighter, not to mention a really popular one.
Mach Rider - A retro character, and one that I think Sakurai could take a lot of interest in. Moveset potential certainly exists, in the form of the gun, oil spills, the barrels, and the pixel cluster he takes on when it gets hit (recovery move). Has potential to be used after Smash 4 into a brand new game.
Takamaru - Another retro character, but this one has quite the fanbase behind him, scoring three votes on the Brawl poll (just as many as Toon Link). In his game, he has the katana, as well as fireballs and shoryukens, and his Nintendo Land game features Ninja Stars, so there is material here to work with too. Plus he's no longer Japanese only, due to Samurai Warriors 3.
Prince Sable - The last character I added. I wasn't really too sure at first, but I figured transformations for a frog and a snake really help him become unique. I wouldn't cycle through the forms ala Zelda/Sheik but would instead have him transform to execute the attack (ex. Grabbing has him go through a few frames of transformation to frog, then grabbing with the tongue). Other characters I considered for the spot were Duck Hunt Dog and Sukapon.
Little Mac - Seems like a really obvious one due to the Punch-Out stage. I don't know for sure how to make him a unique fighter, but I'm fairly certain the option is there.
Mewtwo - Is all but confirmed at this point, unless we magically get a new Pokemon movie before Smash 4's release that Sakurai has seen. It seems weird to have Awakened Mewtwo without the original form, so I have both. I'd imagine the transformation would take place once Mewtwo has reached high percentages, to keep things unique from Zelda and Samus.
Isaac - A popular Pre-Brawl character, and he still has some support around the world today. Using psynergy would make him a unique fighter, alongside the djinn, and he has a sword so the options are, again, present.
Other characters I considered were: Toad, Dixie Kong, Palutena, Ridley, Krystal and Roy.[/spoiler]
Going to post my list as well.
I believe somewhere around 45 character slots on the selection screen is a really accurate guess, with somewhere in the range of 42 - 48 being what I expect. So I went right in the middle.
Only Brawl cut character is Pokemon Trainer, who would be a pain in the rear to program for the 3DS due to how labor intensive such a character would be. According to Melee development interviews, Pokemon Trainer was an idea for Melee, but wasn't implemented due to how labor intensive the character would be. I don't know how the Gamecube and the 3DS compare in terms of processing power, but I recall someone saying that the 3DS is weaker than the Gamecube in that department.
Newcomers, and reasons for including them are in the spoiler tag.
Bowser Jr. - Really unique character and has a lot of material to work with. He was rather popular pre-Brawl, though not appearing on the infamous Brawl poll, but he did have a large amount of supporters. I feel like he could be a really unique fighter using the paintbrush, because it's something he has that no one else has.
King K. Rool - Another really unique character. He's got the crown, the cannonballs, the jetpack/hovercraft thingy from DKC3 and the blunderbuss, not to mention DK64. There's a lot to work with here and it makes him a really unique fighter, not to mention a really popular one.
Mach Rider - A retro character, and one that I think Sakurai could take a lot of interest in. Moveset potential certainly exists, in the form of the gun, oil spills, the barrels, and the pixel cluster he takes on when it gets hit (recovery move). Has potential to be used after Smash 4 into a brand new game.
Takamaru - Another retro character, but this one has quite the fanbase behind him, scoring three votes on the Brawl poll (just as many as Toon Link). In his game, he has the katana, as well as fireballs and shoryukens, and his Nintendo Land game features Ninja Stars, so there is material here to work with too. Plus he's no longer Japanese only, due to Samurai Warriors 3.
Prince Sable - The last character I added. I wasn't really too sure at first, but I figured transformations for a frog and a snake really help him become unique. I wouldn't cycle through the forms ala Zelda/Sheik but would instead have him transform to execute the attack (ex. Grabbing has him go through a few frames of transformation to frog, then grabbing with the tongue). Other characters I considered for the spot were Duck Hunt Dog and Sukapon.
Little Mac - Seems like a really obvious one due to the Punch-Out stage. I don't know for sure how to make him a unique fighter, but I'm fairly certain the option is there.
Mewtwo - Is all but confirmed at this point, unless we magically get a new Pokemon movie before Smash 4's release that Sakurai has seen. It seems weird to have Awakened Mewtwo without the original form, so I have both. I'd imagine the transformation would take place once Mewtwo has reached high percentages, to keep things unique from Zelda and Samus.
Isaac - A popular Pre-Brawl character, and he still has some support around the world today. Using psynergy would make him a unique fighter, alongside the djinn, and he has a sword so the options are, again, present.
Other characters I considered were: Toad, Dixie Kong, Palutena, Ridley, Krystal and Roy.[/spoiler]
Yeah, that's true. but I'm not in the mood to talk about, Dr. Mario being his own series, Matthew, or ...........................CLONE NAZIS!!!
If you are going to have a Wario Ware (which probably shouldn't.) It should be 9-Volt and nobody else. 9-Volt only has so much potential with all his Video Game Peripherals and I'm pretty sure 9-Volt is the more popular Wario Ware character.Going to throw in my list out there.
I think my Roster is 80% accurate, there's just something I don't know, like Chrom from Fire Emblem was pointed out to me earlier, but not gonna change how I originally made this.
Going to post my list as well.
Not gonna work if You have no Poke'mon Trainer or 3rd FE rep. I can't say anything about Mach Rider besides that I doubt him, and I think Prince Sable should be an assist Trophy. You should have a 2nd Metroid rep as well. I also still think the Mewtwo transforming thing is kind of stupid.Going to post my list as well.
Yeah, that's true. but I'm not in the mood to talk about, Dr. Mario being his own series, Matthew, or ...........................CLONE NAZIS!!!
If you are going to have a Wario Ware (which probably shouldn't.) It should be 9-Volt and nobody else. 9-Volt only has so much potential with all his Video Game Peripherals and I'm pretty sure 9-Volt is the more popular Wario Ware character.
Lloyd. Unlike Pac-Man Lloyd only has ONE reason to be in SSB and that's because he's a Namco Character and nothing else. Sakurai already stated Namco was never considered to get any special treatment. He is not going to add Namco characters just because they are helping develop the game. You don't HAVE to have a Namco character.
You replaced Lucas with Ness. That makes no sense because Lucas nearly replaced him in Melee and Brawl, so if one of them gets replaced it should be Ness. Also If you are forced to remove characters because of Roster size, get rid of Kat-Ana, Dixie Kong, and maybe Black Shadow.
Zoroark replacing POKE'MON TRAINER is not going to happen, let alone anybody replacing Pok'emon Trainer. Not to mention: You removed 3 Poke'mon characters. That is not going to happen either.
Roy and Lyn are GREAT choices, but the only problem is what FE characters you don't have. You need Ike & Chrom, So you should have Ike, Chrom, and Marth and then decide between Roy & Lyn. But, then there is the problem of having 4 FE reps. To be honest FE is the hardest to predict. I however would not lose one minute of sleep if Roy replaced Ike. I would actually support that.
Also I don't see Wolf being replaced by Krystal. Wolf being a semi-clone doesn't matter. There are more people who want Wolf, he is more preferred and requested since the first SSB. Also his moves are unique enough to make them missed in my opinion. At least you didn't replace Falco like some people. That would have been stupid. And I don't consider 4 Star Fox reps to be a solution either because that is excessive. I can't really say if we shouldn't have 4 DK reps, I guess I don't see why not.
I also still find it weird that Waluigi is classified under Mario when Wario isn't. And I don't agree with any of the characters you have removed Brawl. If you HAVE to remove characters, why not remove Sonic since he's not a Nintendo character? His moves were terrible. I mean after all, it's obvious people don't care who the characters are as long as they have good or different moves.
I only disagree with Black Shadow because we have Ganondorf, but on paper, he is a good idea.
You don't have Takamaru so that's a point you just lost.
I still think Toon Link is going to be in Super Smash Bros. And I don't see why Mewtwo should switch between forms. Wouldn't his awakened form make him more powerful meaning there is no point in being any other form but that. And if It's equally powerful, what's the point in switcing between them. Their moves would be so similar. Plus he wouldn't really count as an X/Y rep is you have to access it through Final Smash. Meaning you have no X/Y reps. Also characters I suggest would be Starfy, Matthew/Issac, and maybe Bomberman.
I don't recall Sakurai talking about duo characters. Also Kat & Ana are not going to get in for the sole reason of being Duo Characters. Nobody except 9-Volt is going to get in. Also no Wario Ware is going to get in except Wario.
If the only reason is that it's a Namco character then no. What is your reason for Namco getting a character?
Do your research, kid. Lucas was PLANNED to replace him in both Melee & Brawl.
I'm trying to look at all the "Evidence" that supports him but, your lack of evidence is blocking the way. Also I was completely unaware that you removed R.O.B. I guess your roster is even worse now. Give me ONE reason to remove R.O.B. (P.S. "LOLOLOL" is not a reason.) You also said Snake will CLEARLY be removed. I can see him being removed, but you seem so sure. Do you have any reasons for that because you sure haven't posted any.
If that's all you know, maybe you shouldn't have added him.
Let me enlighten you. Takamaru is the most requested Nintendo retro rep for the game and agreeably by everyone on this thread as an almost guranteed character. You SERIOUSLY made fun of somebody for adding one of the most likely characters of all time because you were too dumb to know he even existed. Yeah, you're gonna be a great Speculator.
Once again, the try to prove stuff by putting words like "OBVIOUSLY" or "CLEARLY" or "CAN'T" in captions rather than actual reasons. If you know anything about Zelda (Which I doubt you do because you don't seem to know much about any of the characters.) Toon Link from Spirit Tracks is the DESCENDANT of Toon Link from Wind Waker. So they are 2 completely different people. Also if you analyzed the trailer the Toon Link on the train is the 'actual model' used in the DS game: The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks. He is also wearing his conducter outfit. So not only are they not the same character, but they don't look the same either.
WARIO WARE SERIES NEEDS ANOTHER CHARACTER??????? How did you come to THAT conclusion???
Uh, lots of games get new installments, that is not how Sakurai decides which series gets more characters. You're conclusions are complete garbage.
Is your roster a personal roster or a prediction roster?
Lolwut?Xaltis said:
Not at all. And that is a pretty good point. I still can't see there being more than 1 Toon Link on a stage. But I do like the 4 swords idea.
Wasn't that the big Black fat version of Megaman? o.o
Have you ever played a multiplayer match with the exact same character?
