Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheLastJinjo]

Jigglypuff was almost cut out from Brawl

"...The **** are you talking about?"

 

[PLATINUM7]

Jigglypuff was almost cut out from Brawl, so I think she has a good chance of leaving if someone from Pokemon has to leave.

Yeah but being in for three games in a row kind of makes cutting Jigglypuff seem like a bad idea.

 

[Chandeelure]

Care to explain?
I would agree, but PT is so important to Pokémon as a whole that I feel it would be ridiculous to cut him.
Although I don't think that Pokémon Trainer and Charizard is impossible.

Pokemon Trainer will not be cut,BUT ,a change for his Pokemon or making him Solo Charizard is pretty likely IMO.

 

[SuperBrawler]

The only Pokémon character who is going to be cut is Mewtwo, and Mewtwo is very likely to get in so...

 

[Hotfeet444]

PT is the most expendable, TBH.

The best representation of pokemon overall is the most expendable? It is you, the playable character, you don't play as pokemon, you play the trainer.

Jigglypuff was almost cut out from Brawl, so I think she has a good chance of leaving if someone from Pokemon has to leave.

Are we even sure on this? Sure, she was added in late, but who's to say that wasn't deliberate? Just like Mewtwo not getting in because he was possibly one of the last planned unlockable characters, as, for the most part, the unlockable characters were added into the game in the order they were available to unlock.

The only Pokémon character who is going to be cut is Lucario, and Lucario is very likely to get in so...

Fixed a major error.

 

[Kenith]

Ghiriham, Zant, Midna, Impa, Shulk, Palutena, Magnus, Ridley, Bandana Dee, King. K Rool, Cranky Kong, Dixie Kong, Anna, Lucina, Lyn, Roy, Isaac, Pacman, it's never happening...

 

[CrusherMania1592]

View attachment 5589
"...The **** are you talking about?"

And the next episode of SaturnGamer64 is about to start. Anyone got popcorn?

 

[Louie G.]

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Sakurai is not going to add Charizard if it means destroying a veteran. What reason would Pokemon Trainer even be cut? I hear ridiculous reasons like, "Oh, it's a lot of characters! Must cut!" or Squirtler and Ivyasaur aren't important on their own. Well, guess what together as one character they are the most important after Pikachu. If you think Mewtwo is going to get in over them you're crazy. Especially since he's not even being as heavily advertised as those 3 Pokemon are along with Red.

 

[Autumn ♫]

View attachment 5589
"...The **** are you talking about?"

In Brawl's data, Jigglypuff is one of the last characters in there, being along side Wolf, Toon Link, and the cut Melee veterans.

Yeah but being in for three games in a row kind of makes cutting Jigglypuff seem like a bad idea.

I don't really see that as a good argument by itself.

 

[Louie G.]

Sakurai is not going to add Charizard if it means destroying a veteran. What reason would Pokemon Trainer even be cut? I hear ridiculous reasons like, "Oh, it's a lot of characters! Must cut!" or Squirtler and Ivyasaur aren't important on their own. Well, guess what together as one character they are the most important after Pikachu. If you think Mewtwo is going to get in over them you're crazy. Especially since he's not even being as heavily advertised as those 3 Pokemon are along with Red.

I agree with you, but I think that Mewtwo is more important than Squirtle and Ivysaur.
Charizard is more important than Mewtwo though. Only slightly.

 

[Chandeelure]

And the next episode of SaturnGamer64 is about to start. Anyone got popcorn?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I agree with you, but I think that Mewtwo is more important than Squirtle and Ivysaur.
Charizard is more important than Mewtwo though.

Yeah he's even in the front boxart in both the original and Firered version.

 

[Rouge]

Pokemon Trainer is definitely staying. They may change his appearance and Pokemon though, it doesn't have to be Red again.

 

[Kenith]

I would like to have a productive conversation on the likelyhood of newcomers, not the subtraction of veterans...

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Care to explain?
I would agree, but PT is so important to Pokémon as a whole that I feel it would be ridiculous to cut him.
Although I don't think that Pokémon Trainer and Charizard is impossible.

Takes the longest time to develop. Besides, take a look at the others: Lucario and Mewtwo are promoted just as much, possibly even more so than Charizard or any of PT's Pokémon. And Jiggs is fairly quick to build, thanks to her shape.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I agree with you, but I think that Mewtwo is more important than Squirtle and Ivysaur.
Charizard is more important than Mewtwo though. Only slightly.

Considering Charizard's only real importance stems from the anime and Mewtwo, while also having big importance from movies, also has plot importance to the original games and the Gen 3 remakes, I highly concur.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Pokemon Trainer is definitely staying. They may change his appearance and Pokemon though, it doesn't have to be Red again.

It's like replacing Sheik with Impa, amirite?

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well, I wouldn't look too deeply into what characters are likely.

 

[Louie G.]

Considering Charizard's only real importance stems from the anime and Mewtwo, while also having big importance from movies, also has plot importance to the original games and the Gen 3 remakes, I highly concur.

I think that Mewtwo is more important overall.
But according to fans Charizard is most important. Do you know what I mean?
Even if only slightly, Charizard is more popular in the long run. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's the truth.
He should really get the same attention as all the other starters, but along with Mewtwo he is the only Pokémon to receive 2 Mega Evos.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I am now obsessed with Paper Mario.

 

[Kenith]

I am now obsessed with Paper Mario.

Dimentio for Smash Bros.
He could be a rep for Paper Mario as a series and would flat like Mr. Game and Watch. He could play like Mewtwo with a lots more teleporting to troll people.
His rival could be Lord Crump from Paper Mario ttyd as they both are the minions of the main villains

 

[Forcerounds]

If Pokemon Trainer is going to change, I'd prefer Squirtle and Ivysaur to be replaced with Blastoise and Venusaur. Then Charizard could be the fastest of the three and Blastoise, the slowest.

I also kind of want a Kalos Pokemon Trainer with Greninja, Braixen, and Chespin, but I wouldn't go so far as to put him/her on a prediction roster.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Dimentio won't get in without Paper Mario first.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Do you guys think I'll be able to take over the Dementio thread?

 

[Hotfeet444]

I think that Mewtwo is more important overall.
But according to fans Charizard is most important. Do you know what I mean?
Even if only slightly, Charizard is more popular in the long run. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's the truth.

Well Charizard is overrated as sin, so of course it's going to be thought of as important, but in the initial series overall, Mewtwo is actually the most important Pokemon character in the Smash Bros series, if you don't count the fact that Pokemon trainer is in fact Red, who has the biggest game-wise importance for a pokemon character. Then again, you really need to know the full story of the original pokemon games to understand why Mewtwo is so important.

I am now obsessed with Paper Mario.

Really? Because it looks like you want to show us some magic oh pleaser of crowds and master of dimensions.

 

[Gunla]

Well, I wouldn't look too deeply into what characters are likely.

I remembered the one issue we have with Pokemon: Some people think that someone's going to get cut. They never really give a superbly powerful explanation. I'm not debunking or attacking anyone here, but it happens. And then a vile arguement starts.

My Thoughts
-Pikachu is confirmed already.
-Jigglypuff is part of the OG. Some people can say things, but Sakurai will likely hold his bias and has kept her.
-PT can either be Red or a new Trainer. Having a new one is not necessarily cutting it.
-Lucario is still popular, I don't see this cut happening.
-Mewtwo is likely going to return.
-Less fighting about new reps, moreso about them SLOTS.

Now, I'm just going to sit back and watch.

Louie G, care to pass the popcorn?

 

[TheLastJinjo]

In Brawl's data, Jigglypuff is one of the last characters in there, being along side Wolf, Toon Link, and the cut Melee veterans.

How is that almost being cut?

I agree with you, but I think that Mewtwo is more important than Squirtle and Ivysaur.
Charizard is more important than Mewtwo though. Only slightly.

Yeah, no. He's not. Especially not according to Sakurai. Red is getting his own Anime too and Pokemon Trainer and his Pokemon are heavily promoted in X & Y. Combining that with him already being THE most important after Pikachu, nothing has changed.

 

[Louie G.]

Thank you BigAxle, for summing that up very nicely.

Well Charizard is overrated as sin, so of course it's going to be thought of as important, but in the initial series overall, Mewtwo is actually the most important Pokemon character in the Smash Bros series, if you don't count the fact that Pokemon trainer is in fact Red, who has the biggest game-wise importance for a pokemon character. Then again, you really need to know the full story of the original pokemon games to understand why Mewtwo is so important.

Eh...
I mean, saying that Mewtwo is more important than Pikachu...
That's pushing it. Story wise, yes, but in the long run, there is nobody that even touches Pikachu's importance.
And I mean, Pokémon Trainer is who you control, so he'd be the only character I put above Pikachu.
I would say that Mewtwo is an easy 3rd though.

Yeah, no. He's not. Especially not according to Sakurai. Red is getting his own Anime too and Pokemon Trainer and his Pokemon are heavily promoted in X & Y. Combining that with him already being THE most important after Pikachu, nothing has changed.

Is that implying that Mewtwo ISN'T heavily promoted? And he got a movie. So I mean, I see where you're coming from, but Mewtwo is definitely up there in importance.

Now onto something else. Who has the best shot of being the next Pokémon reveal?
If it's out of the blue I say Jigglypuff, but if it's Pokémon Bank that's a tougher call.

 

[Kenith]

Yeah, Pokemon Trainer isn't going anywhere.

Or Mewtwo. Or Lucario. Or Jigglypuff.

 

[FinalStarmen]

You are my go-to-guy for humorously frivolous pictures.

 

[Kenith]

Dimentio won't get in without Paper Mario first.

Uh, or ever. Coming from a Ghirahim supporter, honest. Not in Smash 4 anyway.

edit: irony

 

[Autumn ♫]

How is that almost being cut?

By almost not making it? Sounds pretty close to almost being cut to me.

 

[Kenith]

Now you guys be good, I'm gonna go change my signature.

Edit: If I catch you talking about Impa, you're grounded.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I remembered the one issue we have with Pokemon: Some people think that someone's going to get cut. They never really give a superbly powerful explanation. I'm not debunking or attacking anyone here, but it happens. And then a vile arguement starts.

My Thoughts
-Pikachu is confirmed already.
-Jigglypuff is part of the OG. Some people can say things, but Sakurai will likely hold his bias and has kept her.
-PT can either be Red or a new Trainer. Having a new one is not necessarily cutting it.
-Lucario is still popular, I don't see this cut happening.
-Mewtwo is likely going to return.
-Less fighting about new reps, moreso about them SLOTS.

Now, I'm just going to sit back and watch.

Louie G, care to pass the popcorn?

What about Pichu?

 

[Hotfeet444]

By almost not making it? Sounds pretty close to almost being cut to me.

Again, I said that it may have been intentional.

 

[NickerBocker]

Meh, never really understood the appeal of PT, you play Pokémon for the Pokémon, not the trainer character, who has little personality.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Pokemon Trainer is definitely staying. They may change his appearance and Pokemon though, it doesn't have to be Red again.

I wouldn't mind seeing Totodile and Grovyle taking Squirtle and Ivy's spots. By doing that, it can easily give us three generations to represent (which might not happen).

I remembered the one issue we have with Pokemon: Some people think that someone's going to get cut. They never really give a superbly powerful explanation. I'm not debunking or attacking anyone here, but it happens. And then a vile arguement starts.

My Thoughts
-Pikachu is confirmed already.
-Jigglypuff is part of the OG. Some people can say things, but Sakurai will likely hold his bias and has kept her.
-PT can either be Red or a new Trainer. Having a new one is not necessarily cutting it.
-Lucario is still popular, I don't see this cut happening.
-Mewtwo is likely going to return.
-Less fighting about new reps, moreso about them SLOTS.

Now, I'm just going to sit back and watch.

Louie G, care to pass the popcorn?

Give this man a cookie! Summed up every damn thought about each character

 

[FinalStarmen]

Now you guys be good, I'm gonna go change my signature.

Edit: If I catch you talking about Impa, you're grounded.

It's a good thing I'm a Flying type then.

 

[Louie G.]

What about Pichu?

Here's the truth. Don't take it too hard, but here it is.
Pichu has absolutely no merits aside from being a clone.