Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Chandeelure]

Anyone think Bandana Dee would make a good Kirby Rep?

No.

 

[Reznor]

new unique contender for smash pokemon rep
dude could have flying throws and other stuff plus he could heal if they wanted to put that in

 

[Gune]

May as well join in while I'm at it - hi, guys. I'm Richard Nixon.

I'm starting to think Zoroark's a bit more likely now too based on his unique ability - the only thing working against him is the obvious competition for Pokemon spots. Mewtwo's practically a given, and Pokemon's already got more characters than any other series counting transformations, so he'd probably have to beat out a veteran to get in. But on the other hand, I dunno how solid Lucario and PT really are. They only really need one Pokemon to show off mega evolution - and if Mewtwo's coming back you can bet it'll be him. So whether or not Lucario and Charizard can mega evolve may not even be important.

Oh snap its a president! Replying to your comment PT and Lucario are so far pretty solid as in choices for returns the exposure they are getting it would be a bit weird not to have them in, I actually see both Mewtwo and Lucario having mega evolutions, Lucario because of how important he is to the mega evolution cannon story and Mewtwo because he has 2 of them and showed them first.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I'm surprised Zoroark is even a topic now that we have Genesect.

From my prospective at least, Dark types are one of my favorite types. So for me at least, I'd still support the idea of something that is more devious.

Also Genesect is purple and purple characters are not allowed.

 

[PLATINUM7]

new unique contender for smash pokemon rep
dude could have flying throws and other stuff plus he could heal if they wanted to put that in

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But we already have a mexican wrestler, Bowser.

 

[BluePikmin11]

when people say Zoroark would be unique what do they mean all I ever see him do is transform that's it

In a general sum, Zoroark would be able to create giant looking attacks, but in reality, they are simply just short ranged claw attacks. He could also clone himself as a part of the illusion mindset.
It's all of the matter of trick the opponent so you can knock them out.

 

[Gune]

From my prospective at least, Dark types are one of my favorite types. So for me at least, I'd still support the idea of something that is more devious.

Also Genesect is purple and purple characters are not allowed.

purple characters are too big.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

This is the best thing that's ever happened to this forum...

Nixon's been browsing this thread for months. I've seen the username listed at the bottom on occasion.
Also, he's a girl.

purple characters are too big.

Well, Hades is certainly too big.

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[XStarWarriorX]

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I swear you flash me some Nixon peace signs you've made my afternoon

(cause it'll remind me of something funny.)

 

[PLATINUM7]

Nixon's been browsing this thread for months.
Also, he's a girl.

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[Reznor]

In a general sum, Zoroark would be able to create giant looking attacks, but in reality, they are simply just short ranged claw attacks. He could also clone himself as a part of the illusion mindset.
It's all of the matter of trick the opponent so you can knock them out.

that is unique but I still think there are other pokemon that could have an even more unique play style

 

[BluePikmin11]

that is unique but I still think there are other pokemon that could have an even more unique play style

Like who? I think Zoroark is the most unique (and popular, so that gives him bonus points) Pokemon newcomer out there.

 

[Gune]

Like who? I think Zoroark is the most unique (and popular, so that gives him bonus points) Pokemon newcomer out there.

Ditto? Mew? Genesect? Blaziken?

 

[Gunla]

Like who? I think Zoroark is the most unique (and popular, so that gives him bonus points) Pokemon newcomer out there.

I'm going to have to pull in Genesect into the ring, eh?

 

[Arcanir]

I mean this in no offensive way, but this is a rather stupid claim. What does Zoroark have over Genesect in terms of popularity, relevance, and uniqueness?

Don't start Saturn, I won't debate relevance as Genesect's movie is more recent but in terms of the Smash fandom Zoroark is more pushed for a 5th gen rep and its Illusion ability is very unique. I like Genesect more then Zoroark I'll admit, but I won't ignore what Zoroark brings to the table.

Downplayed by people fearing Zoroark replacing Lucario and heavily hating Zoroark because of that, even though going by what is going on that's not the strongest possibility. It's in particular the reason people "wanted" Victini instead.

Haha, personally I supported Victini because I thought it would've been a fun character to work with, though I'll admit it's not the most likely candidate even back then.

Really, the only thing I'm trying to say here is that Zoroark does have some notable flaws that can go against it, and while those can be overplayed they're still there. GF isn't pushing it as much and that can hurt it if Sakurai is looking for the new "hot thing" and GF directs his attention away from it to their current stars. Again, having said that though, Zoroark is probably just behind the veterans and it is unique, so potentially it still has something to stand out with.

Regardless, I'm going to keep faithful. I mean, things CAN go differently than what we expect, it's happened before, and I already thought of the PERFECT idea for a Zoroark trailer.

Maybe, and I'm not saying it can't.

 

[Cobalsh]

People over-exaggerate Genesect. What has he done as of yet? Has he been in a game? What's his gimmick? I don't know much, and he's pretty obscure, even to Pokémon fans. Zoroark is eons better imo.

 

[8-peacock-8]

People over-exaggerate Genesect. What has he done as of yet? Has he been in a game? What's his gimmick? I don't know much, and he's pretty obscure, even to Pokémon fans. Zoroark is eons better imo.

He fought Mewtwo.

 

[Gune]

People over-exaggerate Genesect. What has he done as of yet? Has he been in a game? What's his gimmick? I don't know much, and he's pretty obscure, even to Pokémon fans. Zoroark is eons better imo.

Genesect did have the last movie with mewtwo so that does give him the lead on ol Zoro.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

From my prospective at least, Dark types are one of my favorite types. So for me at least, I'd still support the idea of something that is more devious.

Also Genesect is purple and purple characters are not allowed.

Neither of them are blue.
So they're both impossible.
Why? Because BluePikmin11.

 

[Gunla]

People over-exaggerate Genesect. What has he done as of yet? Has he been in a game? What's his gimmick? I don't know much, and he's pretty obscure, even to Pokémon fans. Zoroark is eons better imo.

Like Zoroark, Genesect has been a big role in a Pokemon Movie. That's one.
Both are hyped as mythical and rare pokemon.

As for gimmicks, he has his main attack, Techno Blast. Using a taunt or move, the properties could change for it (IE: Quick Paralysis, Pushback, Poison Damage)

 

[Gune]

Neither of them are blue.
So they're both impossible.
Why? Because BluePikmin11.

is this a thing now? is Blue the new "Expecting ______ TOO BAD WALUIGI TIME" esque forum meme?

 

[Richard Nixon]

Oh snap its a president! Replying to your comment PT and Lucario are so far pretty solid as in choices for returns the exposure they are getting it would be a bit weird not to have them in, I actually see both Mewtwo and Lucario having mega evolutions, Lucario because of how important he is to the mega evolution cannon story and Mewtwo because he has 2 of them and showed them first.

Yeah, I'm thinking Lucario's importance in the story puts him a few notches ahead definitely. I'd actually forgotten about that. I'm feeling less and less certain about PT, though. The Kanto starters were promoted this time around, so I guess there's that, but the promotion has been geared more towards their mega evolutions specifically. And implementing Mega Charizard without the other two, when there's already Lucario and Mewtwo to showcase mega evolution... seems like it could get a bit messy. Maybe it's just personal bias, though; I was kinda disappointed with him in Brawl.

(It's a shame Hawlucha's chances are virtually nonexistent. He'd be fantastic.)

 

[SuperBrawler]

I guess Zoroark is a lot more likely because of Rosalina.

I just think the only one that will actually be replaced is Mewtwo, who will not be replaced.

 

[Starbound]

I mean this in no offensive way, but this is a rather stupid claim. What does Zoroark have over Genesect in terms of uniqueness?

idk, turning into your opponent?

Especially because the only character that comes to mind for competition are Ditto (who lacks the arms and legs to be a fighter) and Mew (who's been a PokeBall for the past three Smash games).

What makes Genesect unique? Legit, non-offensive question because I'm really curious to see what you can come up with.

 

[Reznor]

Like who? I think Zoroark is the most unique (and popular, so that gives him bonus points) Pokemon newcomer out there.

Victini seems more popular and hes from the same gen and it's not that hard to find a unique pokemon there are so many
dang I was kinda slow other people posted even more popular pokemons

 

[SuperBrawler]

I actually don't really like Genesect, no offense.

 

[Knight Dude]

I mean this in no offensive way, but this is a rather stupid claim. What does Zoroark have over Genesect in terms of popularity, relevance, and uniqueness?

Both are popular Gen 5 pokemon. And I see more people talk about Zoroark. Both of them have movies associated with them as well. As far as uniqueness goes, Zoroark can morph into other characters much like he does in the Pokemon games. But I can't really say for sure which of the two are more important to pokemon as a whole.

 

[PLATINUM7]

idk, turning into your opponent?

Especially because the only character that comes to mind for competition are Ditto (who lacks the arms and legs to be a fighter) and Mew (who's been a PokeBall for the past three Smash games).

What makes Genesect unique? Legit, non-offensive question because I'm really curious to see what you can come up with.

I wouldn't count Mew being in a Pokeball for three games as a good point. Charizard was a Pokeball Pokemon for two games before coming playable. (I'm not implying Mew has a chance, just pointing that out)

What makes Genesect unique? All I can think of is its cannon.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

is this a thing now? is Blue the new "Expecting ______ TOO BAD WALUIGI TIME" esque forum meme?

Good idea!

People over-exaggerate Genesect. What has he done as of yet? Has he been in a game? What's his gimmick? I don't know much, and he's pretty obscure, even to Pokémon fans. Zoroark is eons better imo.

At least you're not high on recency.

 

[Starbound]

I think you could go with a stance change character by changing the drives, but I'm not sure how that can transcend into the whole moveset.

 

[Reznor]

idk, turning into your opponent?

Especially because the only character that comes to mind for competition are Ditto (who lacks the arms and legs to be a fighter) and Mew (who's been a PokeBall for the past three Smash games).

What makes Genesect unique? Legit, non-offensive question because I'm really curious to see what you can come up with.

why would you want to turn into your opponent just sound boring
what kind of advantage does turning into your opponent give you anyway they are probably better with their own character then you are

 

[Knight Dude]

He fought Mewtwo.

Didn't he get his get ass beat? Mewtwo usually wrecks house. I stopped watching the show like, mid-Hoenn when I was 8.

 

[Gunla]

I wouldn't count Mew being in a Pokeball for three games as a good point. Charizard was a Pokeball Pokemon for two games before coming playable. (I'm not implying Mew has a chance, just pointing that out)

What makes Genesect unique? All I can think of is its cannon.

Other Smash Characters don't really utilize cannon or artillery-style projectile fire as their main draw. Genesect has that. He also has a unique movepool in-game (Self-Destruct, Fly, Techno Blast and Flash is a legal moveset) to give him lots of choice in movesets.

In addition: Drive Change could be a down Special.

Neutral: Techno Blast
Side: X-Scissor
Up: Magnet Rise
Down: Drive Change
FS: Self Destruct

 

[8-peacock-8]

Didn't he get his get *** beat? Mewtwo usually wrecks house. I stopped watching the show like, mid-Hoenn when I was 8.

i didn't watch the movie.

All i know is he fought Mewtwo!

 

[Hotfeet444]

I guess Zoroark is a lot more likely because of Rosalina.

I just think the only one that will actually be replaced is Mewtwo, who will not be replaced.

I highly doubt that if anyone's replaced this time around, it'd be Mewtwo. For all we know, Lucario could be the new Bowser Jr. this time around.

idk, turning into your opponent?

Especially because the only character that comes to mind for competition are Ditto (who lacks the arms and legs to be a fighter) and Mew (who's been a PokeBall for the past three Smash games).

What makes Genesect unique? Legit, non-offensive question because I'm really curious to see what you can come up with.

It can change drives and has the move Techno Blast...that's all that makes Genesect unique. Everything else, everything else a pokemon like Scizor can do, save for Flamethrower, Ice Beam and Thunderbolt.

 

[Gune]

I actually don't really like Genesect, no offense.

DIFFERENT OPINION!? BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!

 

[PLATINUM7]

Other Smash Characters don't really utilize cannon or artillery-style projectile fire as their main draw. Genesect has that. He also has a unique movepool in-game (Self-Destruct, Fly, Techno Blast and Flash is a legal moveset) to give him lots of choice in movesets.

In addition: Drive Change could be a down Special.

Neutral: Techno Blast
Side: X-Scissor
Up: Magnet Rise
Down: Drive Change
FS: Self Destruct

How does self-destruct work? Wouldn't Genesect also lose a stock?

 

[Gunla]

How does self-destruct work? Wouldn't Genesect also lose a stock?

He could take a ton of damage, but still explode. Like, 60% at least. Like ZSS's, with less Samus transform and more recoil and range.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Technically doesn't Zoroark just morph into the appearance of the opponent? As far as I was aware he wasn't Ditto and kept his own moveset.

I honestly don't know what advantage said illusion could really give you aside from making both of you accidentally kill yourselves by looking at the incorrect character.

 

[Knight Dude]

why would you want to turn into your opponent just sound boring
what kind of advantage does turning into your opponent give you anyway they are probably better with their own character then you are

Ever played Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat? Imagine that, but then turn him into a Dark type Pokemon.