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Zhadgon said:
But I think bringing new series will inject new blood to the game, you need to see the whole picture if you add another character from Fire Emblem it will bring his moveset and probably a part of the Fire Emblem but by now nothing more, instead if we bring another playable character from any other series that hasn't a playable character it could bring something completely new like new stages, new items, new assist trophies and aven less or more trophies, stickers and music.

To answer you answer about the Advance Wars series is by now one of the oldest and with many games under his belt without a playable character here is list of the following games:


Year Released​
Game Title​
System​
1988 Famicom Wars Family Computer
1991 Game Boy Wars Game Boy
1997 Game Boy Wars Turbo Game Boy
1998 Super Famicom Wars Super Famicom
1998 Game Boy Wars 2 Game Boy/Game Boy Color
2001 Game Boy Wars 3 Game Boy Color
2001 Advance Wars Game Boy Advance
2003 Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising Game Boy Advance
2005 Advance Wars: Dual Strike Nintendo DS
2005 Battalion Wars Nintendo GameCube
2007 Battalion Wars 2 Wii
2008 Advance Wars: Days of Ruin Nintendo DS
You can see that it has many entries and by now many characters, for me is a total blasphemy that there is no a playable character from this series, if it was with only a few games under his belt I can see the reason but now with more games than StarFox, Earthbound, F-Zero, Kid Icarus, Pikmin and other franchises it is now the time to include it by far the most underrated series in Smash with little or not at all mention of it.

Yeah but in the next installment of Smash and if there is a new Fire Emblem game should it have another character because is in another high-point and neglect once more the spot for a new franchise that could make it into Smash like Golden Sun, Xenoblade or Advance Wars even if by that time and even now they are worthy of a spot?

Xenoblade is the game where Shulk is the main protagonist and yeah is high selling game the bad thing it has not many copies available and are really pricy so it could be bigger and more known but for now is still a niche game.

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You make a good case; however, I do not think many people even know that the franchise exists to be honest (including myself). It might have been pertinent to include the most important Advanced Wars character as an assist trophy in Brawl. I mean... look at how many people think Isacc is likely based on his inclusion as an assist trophy. If we were to be perfectly honest, most would not speculate in favor of characters like Saki and Isacc had they not been included in Brawl.

There are not many other Nintendo franchises that NEED to be represented. We already have the essentials. It might be prudent to introduce some new franchise to aid their decadent sales though.
 
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R.O.B. said:
Sometimes I feel that this is Habaneo's overall attitude towards Chrom: "Your fate is to be destroyed! Why can't you just accept that, lie down and die!"
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That's what I like about you R.O.B. Always ready for a fight, even before you know what you're fighting.
 
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Xenoblaze said:
Lucina, probably. Chrom and Roy are lol/10.
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Well, that's good to know. Is Ike's Gamecube game worth getting? Most Fire Emblem stuff I heard about was from Awakening. I finished Megaman X Command Mission and I'm almost done with Metroid Prime 1.
 
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Xenoblaze said:
Lucina, probably. Chrom and Roy are lol/10.
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Lucina was awesome in Awakening, the only reason why she isn't liked is too similar looking to Marth, but Chrom has a lot more to hate about him.
R.O.B. said:
Sometimes I feel that this is Habaneo's overall attitude towards Chrom: "Your fate is to be destroyed! Why can't you just accept that, lie down and die!"
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I'm the same.
Thekewlusername said:
Well, that's good to know. Is Ike's Gamecube game worth getting? Most Fire Emblem stuff I heard about was from Awakening. I finish Megaman X Command Mission and I'm almost done with Metroid Prime 1.
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Definitely, it's the game where he really shines in and the units in it are also top notch, PoR is a must get for people who want to play more FE.
 
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G0LD3N L0TUS said:
Where did I say these traits were exclusive to Tactician? However, I do disagree on Chrom having interesting moveset potential. You could work with him, but he's still another sword-wielder, which wouldn't be interesting, IMO. I also question why Chrom is more memorable in a story where he shows little character development.
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To be fair, the Tactician didn't develop that much either as they're still the same stand-in for the player they were at the beginning of the story. The difference between the two is that Robin is faced with more personal adversity then Chrom, which is a point in their favor as it gets you more invested in the character in terms of the story.
 
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MorbidAltruism said:
You make a good case; however, I do not think many people even know that the franchise exists to be honest (including myself). It might have been pertinent to include the most important Advanced Wars character as an assist trophy in Brawl. I mean... look at how many people think Isacc is likely based on his inclusion as an assist trophy. If we were to be perfectly honest, most would not speculate in favor of characters like Saki and Isacc had they not been included in Brawl.

There are not many other Nintendo franchises that NEED to be represented. We already have the essentials. It might be prudent to introduce some new franchise to aid their decadent sales though.
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Yeah but is not a reason to not include it, if we follow your logic the Ice Climbers, Erathbound / Mother, F-Zero and even Pikmin characters should not be included because they weren´t famous or very known to the public and you can say whatever for the Advance Wars franchise but do you think with 12 games is not very well known or dosen´t even have a bigger following than Golden Sun, Xenoblade, Starfy and many other series that we are even considering to get a place in the roster? Once again I think you are underrating this franchise and is story becuase you haven´t played or you haven´t hear of it until now.

Incorrect Isaac has always been considered by many people and fans of the series from the pre-Brawl era even if he didn´t even make it as assist trophy it will still have huge following maybe a little less but still big, thats why Saki is even lower because it dosen´t have huge following as Golden Sun and Isaac.

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Zhadgon said:
Yeah but is not a reason to not include it, if we follow your logic the Ice Climbers, Erathbound / Mother, F-Zero and even Pikmin characters should not be included because they weren´t famous or very known to the public and you can say whatever for the Advance Wars franchise but do you think with 12 games is not very well known or dosen´t even have a bigger following than Golden Sun, Xenoblade, Starfy and many other series that we are even considering to get a place in the roster? Once again I think you are underrating this franchise and is story becuase you haven´t played or you haven´t hear of it until now.

Incorrect Isaac has always been considered by many people and fans of the series from the pre-Brawl era even if he didn´t even make it as assist trophy it will still have huge following maybe a little less but still big, thats why Saki is even lower because it dosen´t have huge following as Golden Sun and Isaac.

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That is true. I wouldn't really throw Mother or F-Zero into that comparison though, they were part of the Original 12, plans for them were in place before most of us even knew about the games development (and whether it would pertain to our interests). The Pikmin one seems unfair too as it was decently well known. I will give you Ice Climbers; however, I honestly feel like they are an exception to the rule.
 
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Sakurai Smash Dojo Nov. 22 Thu. 2007 said:
He rivals just about any main character. There were many requests from users for his inclusion, and he IS pretty cool, so I did what I could to include him. After all, this game does let you enjoy a dream cast of supporting characters!
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I think him and isaac are in the same level.
 
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So... Fire Emblem discussion AGAIN.

I'm pretty sure even Sakurai knows when to stop adding Fire Emblem characters. Especially if he has to come up with yet ANOTHER sword-based moveset. But that's just me. (Then again.... he did come up with a 3rd Fox-like moveset)

I'm feeling confident SSB4 will see a lot new (franchise) faces. Even it if's to introduce new players to... well, the new IPs (or heck, the old unsung ones as well).

Just IF I had to choose, for F.E. I'd go for Tactician over any other lord.
But if I think about it.... I'd actually prefer ANDY from AW to act like a tactician and control little AW sprite batallions. :D
Either one will do (Andy or Tactician) but I lean towards Andy a bit more just because AW is huge for Nintendo as well, and it needs a shot (pardon the pun) in SSB.


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Sakurai Smash Dojo Nov. 22 Thu. 2007 said:
He rivals just about any main character. There were many requests from users for his inclusion, and he IS pretty cool, so I did what I could to include him. After all, this game does let you enjoy a dream cast of supporting characters!​
I think him and isaac are in the same level.​
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-And THIS is why I have such a great confifence in Saki. :3
Ruffians gonna ruff.
 
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FireEmblemnier said:
Lucina was awesome in Awakening, the only reason why she isn't liked is too similar looking to Marth, but Chrom has a lot more to hate about him.
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The main difference between Chrom and Lucina is that Lucina felt more fleshed out. With Chrom, the character felt like he was simply there just to fill in the Lord spot. He didn't have a major influence in the story, his backstory is very simple, and his character isn't anything special. He also suffers from crutch character syndrome, where he's an effective unit at the beginning but flounders starting around the time you recruit Lucina at the middle of the story.
 
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Xenoblaze said:
Hair is gross now? Does that mean Palutena is ugly as sin and Ridley is fabulous?
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It's not the hair, but Bandana Dee trying to be sexy. :laugh:
(the gross part was exaggerated)

But you do have a point.


....Anyone want to talk about Groose and Anthony Higgs?
I hope they get in as Assist Trophies.

They're both likable and memorable secondary characters, so I think they'd fit well as Assists since they aren't quite notable enough to be playable.

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MorbidAltruism said:
That is true. I wouldn't really throw Mother or F-Zero into that comparison though, they were part of the Original 12, plans for them were in place before most of us even knew about the games development (and whether it would pertain to our interests). The Pikmin one seems unfair too as it was decently well known. I will give you Ice Climbers; however, I honestly feel like they are an exception to the rule.
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I can think that Sakurai by that time didn´t want to include or even talked with Intelligent Systems in that time with the original 12, 9 were direct from Nintendo and the other three were from second party and none of them were from Intelligent Systems until Melee by that time Fire Emblem was in better position because of the near release for a new game and did have a big crowd behind, then it came Brawl and once again Fire Emblem was in the spotlight so the inclusion of another character was more than welcome, but by now I think Fire Emblem has two spotlights and high points with Smash, I think is the time for another franchise to shine in Smash.

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Louie G. said:
Is that from Courage the Cowardly Dog?
Because it's the only thing that really makes sense.
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It is. It's From the episode where he and his owners went to New York. They fought a giant evil roach man.

EDIT: The "You're not perfect" came in a different episode. Much later in the series run I think.
 
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