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FinalStarmen

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Enough with these racial discussions. We have a Debate Forum for such controversial topics.

This thread is already drenched in gasoline, as it is. Let us not start fires.
 

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Ok, game which you are more hyped for?

Smash 4 or Project M 3.0?

Personally, I'd like to get both. But PM is more accesable since no monies.
 

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Ok, game which you are more hyped for?

Smash 4 or Project M 3.0?

Personally, I'd like to get both. But PM is more accesable since no monies.
Both. But Project M has my attention more as of right now since it seems 3.0 will be the Smash game most people have dreamed of, but I still have faith in Smash 4.
 

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Trust me, I have that problem too. I try to post on the Victini thread to show my support, and yet nothing happens.
 

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Ok, game which you are more hyped for?

Smash 4 or Project M 3.0?

Personally, I'd like to get both. But PM is more accesable since no monies.
When/if the PAL version finally gets a release, Project M could be worth a look. I like some of the tweaks they've made.

When the next E3 rolls around and we get a few more newcomers I'll probably flit back to Smash 4 for most hyped.
 

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Stamina is the worst problem of Pokémon Trainer. All the Pokémon themselves are at least decently balanced, perhaps with Squirtle and Charizard being a little better than Ivysaur. Far more easy to fix than Zelda / Sheik cause they don't rely on each other's weaknesses and strenghts but rather are just very different characters altogheter.
 

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Ok, game which you are more hyped for?

Smash 4 or Project M 3.0?

Personally, I'd like to get both. But PM is more accesable since no monies.
I like Project M, but by the end of the day it's just a modification of Brawl to make it play like something that's 12 years old. Like I said, it's not bad, it's really great at what it does, but it's just that. At most it just brings a few new modifications to already existing things, like seperating the Pokémon Trainer's Pokémons, giving DK a rolling attack, etc, but it's mostly old mixed with old. And again, old isn't bad, but it's not as exciting as new stuff.

Smash 4 is something new, something with a unique personality, it doesn't seem to try to be anything old but rather be its own thing, it brings more new things to the table. If I was strictly competitive, I'd go for Project M, it's made for the competitive scene by competitive players, but since I'm barely even semi-competitive, I'm looking a lot more forward to Smash 4.
 

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Stamina is the worst problem of Pokémon Trainer. All the Pokémon themselves are at least decently balanced, perhaps with Squirtle and Charizard being a little better than Ivysaur. Far more easy to fix than Zelda / Sheik cause they don't rely on each other's weaknesses and strenghts but rather are just very different characters altogheter.
What?
 

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Well, I guess no one wants to talk about Ganondorf again? What about the Ice Climbers?
 

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Ice Climbers are probably one the most complicated characters to balance in Super Smash Bros. because of their game breaking grabs. You can nerf them to be on par with Melee Kirby, but they will still have some sort of presence as long as that game breaking grab is still there.
 

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Seriously though, to balance the Ice Climbers... Just make Nana unable to grab.
 

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I'd be surprised if Sakurai didn't find a way to stop chain grabs, as they were all over the internet a few years ago.
Project M has a simple solution to prevent most cases of chain grabs. Characters that can do a chain grab, like King Dedede, have had their throws modified so that the directional angle is slanted enough causing the opponent to fall flat on the ground, preventing traditional chain grabs from happening. However, tech chasing is still possible.
 

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Project M has a simple solution to prevent most cases of chain grabs. Characters that can do a chain grab, like King Dedede, have had their throws modified so that the directional angle is slanted enough causing the opponent to fall flat on the ground, preventing traditional chain grabs from happening. However, tech chasing is still possible.

But I thought you hated Project M? And fun in general.
 

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Project M has a simple solution to prevent most cases of chain grabs. Characters that can do a chain grab, like King Dedede, have had their throws modified so that the directional angle is slanted enough causing the opponent to fall flat on the ground, preventing traditional chain grabs from happening. However, tech chasing is still possible.
Yeah, I think this is the best way to make it work. I think just about anyone who doesn't main ICs agree that chain-grabbing is no fun for either the victim or the user. However, at least tech chasing requires quite a bit more effort and acts a lot more fair. That's not to say chaining with ICs is easy, but it really is easy to chain-grab with anyone but those characters, and it's just an unfair advantage, tech chasing is a lot more fair in that regard.
 

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Kinda figured most would just want to chain grabs to be nerfed or completely done away with. I wish I knew more about the Climbers, but I don't come across them often. So I'm not too sure what else is really good about the characters.

Well as far as potential buffs go for the Climbers what would you guys want to see? I can only see their Final Smash getting a slight buff in raw damage, but that's it really. Maybe more range on their Down-B, any of you think that'll work?
 

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Kinda figured most would just want to chain grabs to be nerfed or completely done away with. I wish I knew more about the Climbers, but I don't come across them often. So I'm not too sure what else is really good about the characters.

Well as far as potential buffs go for the Climbers what would you guys want to see? I can only see their Final Smash getting a slight buff in raw damage, but that's it really. Maybe more range on their Down-B, any of you think that'll work?

Buffs for the Ice Climbers..?

Might as well just buff MetaKnight while we're at it...

Only Top Tier that could actually use buffs is Diddy. Yes, he could use buffs depending if his Bananas are removed or not, and if they are as good as in Brawl (I doubt this honestly).
 
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But it doesn't matter anyway. Neither will get in for the same reason we didn't get Meta Knight or Dedede until Brawl plus the very fact they were both added in Brawl.

Times attempted to post: 7 (**** you, SmashBoards.)
 

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Bandanna Dee VS Prince Fluff.
Go.
Bandana Dee. Because spears are awesome, and Return to Dreamland is probably the best game in the series. Prince Fluff and all of Epic Yarn was a bit "eh" in my opinion, good for some short term entertainment, but not one for years in the future. Plus, Bandana Dee is more likely to stay a reoccuring character, Prince Fluff and all of his yarn was pretty much sealed off by the end iirc.
 

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Fun fact: I used to support Bandana Dee till I discovered we aren't getting that many newcomers.

Would still like to see him though. Maybe next installment.
 
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