Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Depressed Gengar]

OK. Enough with the casual crap. I bet you could list a good portion of 'em and I could find a reason they are unlikely or impossible.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'm so glad Matthew Mercer hasn't been asked to do the voice for Chrom in Smash yet. If Chrom gets in I want Patrick Warburton to do it. Admit it, you all want it just as much as I do. Then we can start calling him Chromk!

 

[SchAlternate]

No falcos or wolf mains?

I used to be a Falco main, but I realized Ivysaur needed some love.

 

[Morbi]

Yeah, it's best if you don't ignore any part of Nintendo when it comes to an character's inclusion.

Look what happens when you do... you overlook one of the most obvious inclusions...

 

[BluePikmin11]

OK. Enough with the casual crap. I bet you could list a good portion of 'em and I could find a reason they are unlikely or impossible.

Ignorance must be top priority for you huh?

Look what happens when you do... you overlook one of the most obvious inclusions...

Some times I blame my personal tastes, I know how to seperate personal to speculative.
I'm for sure K. Rool and Ridley will be in the game.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Ignorance must be top priority for you huh?

Was that supposed to be an insult?

 

[YoshiandToad]

I used to be a Falco main, but I realized Ivysaur needed some love.

I believe Richard was actually just shocked that Thekewlusername didn't come across Falco and Wolf mains online all the time. Unless I'm reading wrong.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I'm so glad Matthew Mercer hasn't been asked to do the voice for Chrom in Smash yet. If Chrom gets in I want Patrick Warburton to do it. Admit it, you all want it just as much as I do. Then we can start calling him Chromk!

Chrom voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Quite an unlikely scenario, as he wouldn't want to disappoint any of his fans, even for a character like Nintendog.

We wouldn't want to make those 2 fans feel like outcasts.

Yeah, it's best if you don't ignore any part of Nintendo when it comes to an character's inclusion.

Too bad that's not how it works. Besides if we have stages and assist trophies for stuff like Brain Age and Ninendog...why the **** do they need to be playable. They're not THAT important and iconic and being a stage and assist trophy fits their potential perfectly.

Virtual Boy, Brain Age, and Nintendog's potential and representation would be used to the fullest in the form of a stage. Making them playable is really overstating their welcome and simply forcing it.

Ignorance must be top priority for you huh?


Some times I blame my personal tastes, I know how to seperate personal to speculative.
I'm for sure K. Rool and Ridley will be in the game.

You support a REAL LIFE DOG and ignore everything wrong with it by simply throwing out it's game's moderate popularity. You completley ignore the fact that Kawashima and Napoleon Bonapert are REAL LIFE PEOPLE because what they are FROM is somewhat important to Nintendo's History. You ignore character criteria completely and add types of characters that only a mentally insane person would consider for 5 seconds.

AND YOU'RE CALLING KINGSHADOW INGORANT!?!?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Was that supposed to be an insult?

Not at all.. ;-;

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Chrom voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

This guy is voiced by Gilbert Gottfried and the little black tail is voiced by Michael Jackson.

 

[Richard 89]

Ignorance must be top priority for you huh

Was that supposed to be an insult?

I sense an argument brewing *Waits for it*

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I sense an argument brewing *Waits for it*

Some times I blame my personal tastes, I know how to seperate personal to speculative.

That's funny, because I'm pretty damn sure the only reason you have Prince Sable is because you have a boner for him.

I'm for sure K. Rool and Ridley will be in the game.

And yet you are so hell bent and fight to the death for Anna, Dog, and The Emperor of The French.

 

[Morbi]

We wouldn't want to make those 2 fans feel like outcasts.


Too bad that's not how it works. Besides if we have stages and assist trophies for stuff like Brain Age and Ninendog...why the **** do they need to be playable. They're not THAT important and iconic and being a stage and assist trophy fits their potential perfectly.

Virtual Boy, Brain Age, and Nintendog's potential and representation would be used to the fullest in the form of a stage. Making them playable is really overstating their welcome and simply forcing it.


You support a REAL LIFE DOG and ignore everything wrong with it by simply throwing out it's game's moderate popularity. You completley ignore the fact that Kawashima and Napoleon Bonapert are REAL LIFE PEOPLE because what they are FROM is somewhat important to Nintendo's History. You ignore character criteria completely and add types of characters that only a mentally insane person would consider for 5 seconds.

AND YOU'RE CALLING KINGSHADOW INGORANT!?!?

It is almost hilarious, you assert that one shouldn't interpret Nintendo universally, regardless of the fallacious nature disregarding portions of Nintendo arbitrarily... .... yet you support characters like Diskun and Paper Mario. Is that not looking at some aspects of Nintendo that are not commonly supported? That is how I interpret that statement. It seems hypocritical. Regardless, operating under the assumption that I misinterpreted what you said, dismissing any given premise arbitrarily is not intelligent. Secondly, DS/3DS games such as Brain Age and Nintendogs are important to Nintendo's handheld history (which in case you couldn't tell, they are heading into a predominantly handheld direction). Smash 4 is about representing both the DS/3DS and the Wii/Wii U. So that is an oversight on your part. Thirdly, since when does a stage de-confirm a character? It seems like there is not a correlation. In fact, most people erroneously assume that it alludes to the character (in the case of Little Mac for instance).

The last part is unnecessary. It is based on preference. He gave Kawashima a realistic rating in a different thread. He is not insane. Based on the notion that I considered Kawashima for more than five seconds would also make me insane, I think it would make most members of Smashboards insane. If one was not competent enough to consider Kawashima for a mere 5 seconds... I fear for them (as often as BluePikmin spouts his propaganda). However, we are just getting into logical fallacy territory. There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason to insult someone based on what characters they want in Smash. That my friend, is truly insane.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Sakurai can actually bypass the "originating from videogame" rule, and actually allow Dr. Kawashima and maybe Nintendog to be playable characters, considering their popularity and importance is actually lots more than of a series like Golden Sun and Starfy. (Not an insult to GS and Starfy fans)

 

[TheLastJinjo]

It is almost hilarious, you assert that one shouldn't interpret Nintendo universally, regardless of the fallacious nature disregarding portions of Nintendo arbitrarily... .... yet you support characters like Diskun and Paper Mario.

We're comparing the most requested and important persona of Mario with a very high chance of getting in as well as a character with the most potential, and the mascot of The Famicom Disk System who had a lead role in a Disk System Puzzle Game.........to The floating head of a real dude, An evil French Emperor from centuries ago, and a DOG.

Smash 4 is about representing both the DS/3DS and the Wii/Wii U.

Was this ever confirmed to influence Character inclusions?

Thirdly, since when does a stage de-confirm a character?

Who said that?

There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason to insult someone based on what characters they want in Smash. That my friend, is truly insane.

A: It's what characters they predict
B: I was defending another member of the board who was being called ignorant for not giving into the inclusion of a DOG.

 

[BKupa666]

Also, I don't exactly see how Wii Fit Trainer suddenly defies all conventions and we should change our entire prospective on things. She's not exactly providing anything revolutionary to the table. I mean last time around out big surprise was Snake, which basically meant that the prospective of characters not owned by Nintendo was possible. What exactly does Wii Fit Trainer bring that is exactly game changing?

She doesn't. She was a jolt to the system in that no one guessed her despite users trying to comprehensively list all possible shocking newcomers. There's also Villager getting in despite Sakurai's comment, and the E3 newcomers as a whole not fitting into the very strict formula everyone had expected for the trailer (one fan favorite, one female, one retro, one villain, one third party, boom, done). But all of that is explainable in ways that don't equate to Sakurai absolutely bucking the typical development tendencies he's had in the past.

 

[SchAlternate]

Sakurai can actually bypass the "originating from videogame" rule, and actually allow Dr. Kawashima and maybe Nintendog to be playable characters, considering their popularity and importance is actually lots more than of a series like Golden Sun and Starfy. (Not an insult to GS and Starfy fans)

I beg your mother f-ing pardon?

 

[BluePikmin11]

There is an actual possibility he can bypass the rules you know. ;_;
He already has changed his mind on many things, such as the Villager being deemed too peaceful.

I beg your mother f-ing pardon?

I told you already it was not an insult. ;_;

 

[TheLastJinjo]

There is an actual possibility he can bypass the rules you know. ;_;

Sakurai can actually bypass the "originating from videogame" rule)

Sakurai can set fire to whatever rule he wants. But, this isn't the Roster Possibility Discussion Thread. Let's try to talk about what he will do and not what he is physically capable of doing. This is a horrible defense. That's like if I defended Bubsy The Bobcat by saying "Yeah, well he CAN if he wanted to."

EDIT: Are you honestly trying to imply Dog and Mr. Kawashima are more likely than Issac & Starfy?

 

[Morbi]

We're comparing the most requested and important persona of Mario with a very high chance of getting in as well as a character with the most potential, and the mascot of The Famicom Disk System who had a lead role in a Disk System Puzzle Game.........to The floating head of a real dude, An evil French Emperor from centuries ago, and a DOG.

Was this ever confirmed to influence Character inclusions?


Who said that?



A: It's what characters they predict
B: I was defending another member of the board who was being called ignorant for not giving into the inclusion of a DOG.

I don't know, Paper Mario seems like a more unrealistic choice to me if I were to be perfectly honest. It is subjective. Most people envision the ideal roster as one that makes sense to them. However, you cannot deny that Diskun fits that criteria. I would obviously assert that Paper Mario does; however, if you insist.

No, it is not relevant. The notion that the game is supposed to represent both the handheld scene and the console scene should be enough to evidence the premise. It doesn't need to pertain to character selection objectively. It might influence the decision of a character or two though.

That is logic. If you assume that a stage has a correlation with character selection... you haven't been on Smashboards very long. Stage selection has very little to do with character selection.

I was also defending another member of the board who was being called ignorant for an arbitrary reason.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

There is an actual possibility he can bypass the rules you know. ;_;
He already has changed his mind on many things, such as the Villager being deemed too peaceful.


I told you already it was not an insult. ;_;

I doubt he'd just go and break one of his own rules like that. (and no, Villager being too peaceful for Brawl was not a "rule")

Besides, he'd need to dye his hair green first anyway.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'm just gonna leave my name and phone number. Please call me back when BluePikmin11 has left because I'm so sick of this constant bull crap

Name: Joe Mama
Number: 911

 

[Depressed Gengar]

There is an actual possibility he can bypass the rules you know. ;_;
He already has changed his mind on many things, such as the Villager being deemed too peaceful.


I told you already it was not an insult. ;_;

Ummmm... That wasn't me. That was Alternate. I understand that it wasn't an insult.

 

[FlareHabanero]

She doesn't. She was a jolt to the system in that no one guessed her despite users trying to comprehensively list all possible shocking newcomers. There's also Villager getting in despite Sakurai's comment, and the E3 newcomers as a whole not fitting into the very strict formula everyone had expected for the trailer (one fan favorite, one female, one retro, one villain, one third party, boom, done). But all of that is explainable in ways that don't equate to Sakurai absolutely bucking the typical development tendencies he's had in the past.

Exactly why I don't understand why we must change our prospective on things. This isn't even the first time this has happened, so it's pretty pointless to make an exception. We should still expect conventional characters from a broad range of franchises, not limit ourselves to the most unorthodox choices possible just because we got something unexpected.

 

[SuperBrawler]

OMG!

 

[BluePikmin11]

I doubt he'd just go and break one of his own rules like that. (and no, Villager being too peaceful for Brawl was not a "rule")

Besides, he'd need to dye his hair green first anyway.

I know it wasn't a rule (Can't recall of a character who was added that bypassed the rules.).

 

[Depressed Gengar]

OMG!
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P.S. This is fake everyone. SuperBrawler made it.

 

[Richard 89]

Sakurai can actually bypass the "originating from videogame" rule, and actually allow Dr. Kawashima and maybe Nintendog to be playable characters, considering their popularity and importance is actually lots more than of a series like Golden Sun and Starfy. (Not an insult to GS and Starfy fans)

Considering what I've heard about sakurai on this thread, I say that he is very careful/cautious about what character he puts in smash, as he stated in a video at E3 "I won't let just any character participate in smash". That said, what character he'll put in next is the equivalent of a wildcard being thrown into play=unknown.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Sakurai can set fire to whatever rule he wants. But, this isn't the Roster Possibility Discussion Thread. Let's try to talk about what he will do and not what he is physically capable of doing. This is a horrible defense. That's like if I defended Bubsy The Bobcat by saying "Yeah, well he CAN if he wanted to."

EDIT: Are you honestly trying to imply Dog and Mr. Kawashima are more likely than Issac & Starfy?

They are a part of Nintendo, unlike Bubsy the cat. Since they are a part of Nintendo, he could willingly accept Kawashima and Nintendog and let them bypass.

 

[SuperBrawler]

P.S. This is fake everyone. SuperBrawler made it.

 

[SchAlternate]

Name: Joe Mama
Number: 911

Sorry to break it down to you, Joe, but flying is impossible.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Couldn't resist, sorry.
Isn't that art his Project M art anyways? Someone would have found out.

 

[NickerBocker]

Exactly why I don't understand why we must change our prospective on things. This isn't even the first time this has happened, so it's pretty pointless to make an exception. We should still expect conventional characters from a broad range of franchises, not limit ourselves to the most unorthodox choices possible just because we got something unexpected.

We really shouldn't change our prospective. Wii Fit trainer isnt exactly a typical Nintendo allstar, but based off popularity and iconicness, it was really in front of us the whole time. No one guessed it but it happened,like before with Snake and Rob.

As far as villager goes, it was a bit of a surprise to see him because Sakurai went back on something he said from before. I guess we didnt expect that, but people tend to do what they sa, but he came up with a feasible moveset that works, so thats probably why he ended up adding him.

 

[SuperBrawler]

Couldn't resist, sorry.
Isn't that art his Project M art anyways? Someone would have found out.

No. It's some art someone else made on this forum somewhere.

The thread was called something like Fake Leaks Photoshops etc.

 

[Richard 89]

Name: Joe Mama
Number: 911

*Calls the number and tells Joe that Bluepikmin11 has left the building* I feel bad now for playing a trick

 

[Knight Dude]

Chrom voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

Megaman to be voiced by James Woods. You know you want it.

 

[SchAlternate]

Couldn't resist, sorry.
Isn't that art his Project M art anyways? Someone would have found out.

That's it's trophy render from Brawl, actually.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Dog be in smash cuz game popular

I want you to legitimately answer the following question. *ahem* :

If the only reason you think Nintendogs and Brain Age is important is because of how popular the GAME is and how much it sold rather than the characters, then why don't you just have the GAME itself as a stage?

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

They are a part of Nintendo, unlike Bubsy the cat. Since they are a part of Nintendo, he could willingly accept Kawashima and Nintendog and let them bypass.

Kawashima is not owned by Nintendo. He is by all extensive purposes, a 4th party character.

And can we please have a more interesting topic?