Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Scoliosis Jones]

I feel confident it will be a Hanafuda character, it's really the most important thing of Nintendo missing from a Nintendo All-Stars.
Also there was a leak about R.O.B., I'm pretty curious to know.

R.O.B leak? What was it?

 

[Pacack]

Daitoryo is a possible candidate, but the problem with trying to predict these historic characters is that we usually only get one per game, and it's incredibly hard to predict them. No one even gave a second thought to whether R.O.B was a likely candidate for Brawl until the leak came about, and I'm sure no one in their right mind guessed G&W either. Furthermore, Wii Fit Trainer could also already have filled the WTF spot, and with us getting fewer newcomers this time around, we might not see more than one curveball character.

Gotta accept that when you support an obscure character that their chances will always be incredibly low, because there are always very few of them, and there might not even be anymore of them in this game after WFT's reveal. It's a risky character to put your faith in at least.

I have one big problem with how you're looking at this.

Mr. Game and Watch and R.O.B. are not simply "WTF" characters. They are historical characters. They are representing a part of Nintendo's history; that is their defining characteristic. WFT is more like ZSS or Sheik, who were (female) newcomers (that were revealed at E3) that not many people thought about, but which made sense in hindsight. WFT is also like Pokemon Trainer; the protagonist of a popular Nintendo franchise that simply got overlooked by speculators.

Looking at it from the point of view that we have not gotten our historical surprise character, we can look at the possible candidates that people have come up with:

Daitoryo
Sheriff
Diskun
EVR Racer
Harry (from Teleroboxer)
Other?

Out of these, Sheriff is not the first Nintendo character (making his appeal go significantly down), Diskun is not all that important to Nintendo's history, EVR Racer is the first Nintendo character, but is difficult to make a playable character, and Harry is really even less important to Nintendo's history than even Diskun.

Daitoryo does not have any significant problems like the other characters listed. He is based off of an actual person, but is in a unique art style that makes that a non-issue (it also helps that Napoleon can't sue Nintendo for using his likeness). He did not originate in a video game, but R.O.B. proves that this isn't a factor (at least for historical characters).

Using that logic, am I wrong to assume that Daitoryo is the most reasonable and likely historical character that we've guessed so far?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Also there was a leak about R.O.B., I'm pretty curious to know.

Oh I'm just talking about the original Brawl roster leak, when everybody flipped their **** at the idea of R.O.B, but no Ridley, K. Rool or the likes. Some even tryied to convince themselves that it was ROB64 from Star Fox. There hasn't been a R.O.B leak regarding Smash 4.

 

[BKupa666]

I remember there being a tiny R.O.B. thread pre-Brawl, although it was more of a joke suggestion than anything, and it faded into obscurity once the SSE R.O.B.s were shown. Just like no one thought clones would return to Brawl, everyone thought the remainder of the (45-50 character ) roster would be all popular characters, with no WTF character in sight. Speaking of WTF characters, the level at which fans expect them playable doesn't diminish their importance to Nintendo; similarly, just because a newcomer can be considered historic (99% of the time in hindsight), that doesn't mean they aren't also shocking to most fans.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I have one big problem with how you're looking at this.

Mr. Game and Watch and R.O.B. are not simply "WTF" characters. They are historical characters. They are representing a part of Nintendo's history; that is their defining characteristic. WFT is more like ZSS or Sheik, who were (female) newcomers (that were revealed at E3) that not many people thought about, but which made sense in hindsight. WFT is also like Pokemon Trainer; the protagonist of a popular Nintendo franchise that simply got overlooked by speculators.

Looking at it from the point of view that we have not gotten our historical surprise character, we can look at the possible candidates that people have come up with:

Daitoryo
Sheriff
Diskun
EVR Racer
Harry (from Teleroboxer)
Other?

Out of these, Sheriff is not the first Nintendo character (making his appeal go significantly down), Diskun is not all that important to Nintendo's history, EVR Racer is the first Nintendo character, but is difficult to make a playable character, and Harry is really even less important to Nintendo's history than even Diskun.

Daitoryo does not have any significant problems like the other characters listed. He is based off of an actual person, but is in a unique art style that makes that a non-issue (it also helps that Napoleon can't sue Nintendo for using his likeness). He did not originate in a video game, but R.O.B. proves that this isn't a factor (at least for historical characters).

Using that logic, am I wrong to assume that Daitoryo is the most reasonable and likely historical character that we've guessed so far?

Not really. But the question still remains if there's space open for another historical character when there's still plenty of current Nintendo All-Stars left to add into the mix and we have much more limited space for newcomers this time around too. One curveball character might be enough when taking that into consideration, putting in wanted and hyped characters instead could be the way to go.

Furthermore, the characters we have gotten thus far have all contributed to Nintendo's great success as a video game company, Hanafuda didn't really reinvent gaming or saved the gaming industry in any way, sure it's Nintendo history, but was it really all that important to make Nintendo the face it is today? Did it revolutionize Nintendo and brought them ahead of the game, or was it merely a stepping stone? That's debatable I'm sure, and it's probably a discussion for another time.

Every one of these historical characters have a good chunk of counter-arguments, and I personally don't feel they would fare as well as Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B do. That's why I personally don't think there's going to be a historical character, it's possible yes, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

Like I said, with obscure characters it's always risky supporting them, because there's a much bigger chance you'll end up dissapointed. What I'm saying is, don't get too excited and hold your breath, because no matter the obscure character, the odds are always against you, which is something that needs to be accepted when supporting these kind of characters. Not that you aren't supposed to support the character idea, I think it's extremely cool that people come up with these ideas themselves these days, but it's still the reality of the situation as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

So i'm seeing leaked release dates on a few different sites. Supposedly, the release date is May 16th, 2014.

What do you guys think of that? Me? I don't know. I'd have to go with fake, but i'd like it to be true.

(basically a bad attempt to revive conversation)

 

[Knight Dude]

So i'm seeing leaked release dates on a few different sites. Supposedly, the release date is May 16th, 2014.

What do you guys think of that? Me? I don't know. I'd have to go with fake, but i'd like it to be true.

(basically a bad attempt to revive conversation)

Eh...Not sure, most leaked release dates I tend to doubt myself. But I suppose that date does seem possible. Personally I was expecting holiday season 2014.

And.......This was a poor attempt to follow your previous attempt.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

So i'm seeing leaked release dates on a few different sites. Supposedly, the release date is May 16th, 2014.

What do you guys think of that? Me? I don't know. I'd have to go with fake, but i'd like it to be true.

(basically a bad attempt to revive conversation)

Would be fantastic, but I just don't see it releasing that early, otherwise they better pick up the pace of reveals faster than Sonic can say "C'mon, step it up!"

Furthermore, the source of that only says that the 3DS version will release at that date, where as the Wii U version is still set as the placeholder date of Dec 31st, 2014, which makes it pretty fishy, because even if Sakurai said that the games might release at different times, I think he said that the 3DS version would release at a later time if anything.

 

[TumblrFamous]

So i'm seeing leaked release dates on a few different sites. Supposedly, the release date is May 16th, 2014.

What do you guys think of that? Me? I don't know. I'd have to go with fake, but i'd like it to be true.

(basically a bad attempt to revive conversation)

I have to say I doubt it. I think it will be sometime after E3 2014. They show off one more trailer, the REAL trailer, and announce when it will be released, my guess around October/November.

 

[Pacack]

Not really. But the question still remains if there's space open for another historical character when there's still plenty of current Nintendo All-Stars left to add into the mix and we have much more limited space for newcomers this time around too. One curveball character might be enough when taking that into consideration, putting in wanted and hyped characters instead could be the way to go.

Furthermore, the characters we have gotten thus far have all contributed to Nintendo's great success as a video game company, Hanafuda didn't really reinvent gaming or saved the gaming industry in any way, sure it's Nintendo history, but was it really all that important to make Nintendo the face it is today? Did it revolutionize Nintendo and brought them ahead of the game, or was it merely a stepping stone? That's debatable I'm sure, and it's probably a discussion for another time.

Every one of these historical characters have a good chunk of counter-arguments, and I personally don't feel they would fare as well as Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B do. That's why I personally don't think there's going to be a historical character, it's possible yes, but I'm not holding my breath for it.

Like I said, with obscure characters it's always risky supporting them, because there's a much bigger chance you'll end up dissapointed. What I'm saying is, don't get too excited and hold your breath, because no matter the obscure character, the odds are always against you, which is something that needs to be accepted when supporting these kind of characters. Not that you aren't supposed to support the character idea, I think it's extremely cool that people come up with these ideas themselves these days, but it's still the reality of the situation as far as I'm concerned.

I would argue that there is. Sakurai seems to include one retro character and one historical character each game. I also feel the need to point out that there were more Nintendo All-Stars to add when Melee and Brawl were being developed, but we still got one retro and historical character.

You have made that seem like extremely sound logic by specifying too much. The characters we have gotten have indeed been significant to Nintendo's success as a video game company, but it is also true that the characters we have gotten have all been relevant to Nintendo's history as a company. There is no reason to assume that the historical character is specifically intended to represent Nintendo's history specifically as a video game company. If you do not limit yourself by using that viewpoint, it's obvious that hanafuda is more important to Nintendo as a whole than even R.O.B. was! It's literally the very thing that Nintendo started out with. That's extremely important to Nintendo's history.

R.O.B. also had his fair share of counter-arguments, I imagine. That did not prevent his inclusion, in the end.

I do understand and agree completely on your final statement. I still only include Daitoryo on my rosters as a placeholder for whatever historical curveball Sakurai throws at us all. I know that none of the historical characters really have a great chance.

 

[shinhed-echi]

If May's the release date, then Sakurai's been lagging in terms of advertising.

At this current state, more people will download P:M than buy SSB4.

A new trailer is long overdue.

 

[TumblrFamous]

If May's the release date, then Sakurai's been lagging in terms of advertising.

At this current state, more people will download P:M than buy SSB4.

A new trailer is long overdue.

I assume, if there are more than two trailers, then we might see one in December.

Okay, if we have holiday reveals, this is how I think they will go down:

• Meta Knight for Halloween, he has a mask and stuff.
• Falco for Thanksgiving. He's a bird, and people eat bird on Thanksgiving.
• Ice Climbers on Christmas for obvious reasons.

If Sakurai does make holiday reveals, would this make sense? Then again you have to take in Japan's holidays into account, but something like Christmas would make sense for a reveal.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I have doubts on that rumored release date.

If only it were true though...

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I have one big problem with how you're looking at this.

Mr. Game and Watch and R.O.B. are not simply "WTF" characters. They are historical characters. They are representing a part of Nintendo's history; that is their defining characteristic. WFT is more like ZSS or Sheik, who were (female) newcomers (that were revealed at E3) that not many people thought about, but which made sense in hindsight. WFT is also like Pokemon Trainer; the protagonist of a popular Nintendo franchise that simply got overlooked by speculators.

Looking at it from the point of view that we have not gotten our historical surprise character, we can look at the possible candidates that people have come up with:

Daitoryo
Sheriff
Diskun
EVR Racer
Harry (from Teleroboxer)
Other?

Out of these, Sheriff is not the first Nintendo character (making his appeal go significantly down), Diskun is not all that important to Nintendo's history, EVR Racer is the first Nintendo character, but is difficult to make a playable character, and Harry is really even less important to Nintendo's history than even Diskun.

Daitoryo does not have any significant problems like the other characters listed. He is based off of an actual person, but is in a unique art style that makes that a non-issue (it also helps that Napoleon can't sue Nintendo for using his likeness). He did not originate in a video game, but R.O.B. proves that this isn't a factor (at least for historical characters).

Using that logic, am I wrong to assume that Daitoryo is the most reasonable and likely historical character that we've guessed so far?

You forgot N64 logo.
And to an extent MissingNo.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I would argue that there is. Sakurai seems to include one retro character and one historical character each game. I also feel the need to point out that there were more Nintendo All-Stars to add when Melee and Brawl were being developed, but we still got one retro and historical character.

You have made that seem like extremely sound logic by specifying too much. The characters we have gotten have indeed been significant to Nintendo's success as a video game company, but it is also true that the characters we have gotten have all been relevant to Nintendo's history as a company. There is no reason to assume that the historical character is specifically intended to represent Nintendo's history specifically as a video game company. If you do not limit yourself by using that viewpoint, it's obvious that hanafuda is more important to Nintendo as a whole than even R.O.B. was! It's literally the very thing that Nintendo started out with. That's extremely important to Nintendo's history.

R.O.B. also had his fair share of counter-arguments, I imagine. That did not prevent his inclusion, in the end.

I do understand and agree completely on your final statement. I still only include Daitoryo on my rosters as a placeholder for whatever historical curveball Sakurai throws at us all. I know that none of the historical characters really have a great chance.

I think the only counterarguments on R.O.B was that the ****ing thing didn't work properly, and it didn't originate in a video game, both which of course didn't hold up.

You're right that it can probably stretch outside of Nintendo being a video game company, after all it's probably best to not try and follow patterns.

The reason I keep mentioning that Sakurai has said that we're likely getting less newcomers this time around is specifically because that could possibly exclude a histortic character. With Brawl we got a whooping 18 new characters (excluding individual Pokémons, including ZSS), and even then only 3 of them were really obscure characters, that being Pokémon Trainer, ZSS and R.O.B. Say we only get 10 newcomers this time around, 3 of which have already been revealed, leaving only 7 more left, characters that are fighting for these spots include Little Mac, Palutena, Ridley, K. Rool, Chrom, Mii, Pac-Man, Dixie Kong, Toad, etc. In that case, can we really afford having another obscure character when not even all of these character can be granted a spot? I personally don't think so, but this is all hypothetical, considering we don't know the exact number of newcomers we're getting in this game, but it's still a possibility. Sakurai also doesn't mind breaking patterns as we know, if anything he probably loves breaking them, so nothing can keep on being a tradition anyways.

Either way, this discussion about historic characters and an additional obscure character is simply filled with a lot of hypothetical questions and a bunch of "what if"s. It's a hard subject because we've learned to not trust following patterns (and even then 2 times is hardly a pattern.) I think it's best if we just leave the discussion as this, because frankly, I've actually enjoyed getting a perspective from the other side in such a nice manner, and we really can't come to a conclusion with what we know.

Okay, if we have holiday reveals, this is how I think they will go down:

• Meta Knight for Halloween, he has a mask and stuff.
• Falco for Thanksgiving. He's a bird, and people eat bird on Thanksgiving.
• Ice Climbers on Christmas for obvious reasons.

If Sakurai does make holiday reveals, would this make sense? Then again you have to take in Japan's holidays into account, but something like Christmas would make sense for a reveal.

Yeah, I guess we'll find out if we're getting reveals on holidays besides christmas tomorrow. I doubt thanksgiving though, since it's strictly American, I haven't even been to a thanksgiving myself since I'm European, so I'm guessing it'd only count for big holidays. I'm still rooting for D3 for chistmas though, and I'd love Meta Knight tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Pacack]

I think the only counterarguments on R.O.B was that the ****ing thing didn't work properly, and it didn't originate in a video game, both which of course didn't hold up.

You're right that it can probably stretch outside of Nintendo being a video game company, after all it's probably best to not try and follow patterns.

The reason I keep mentioning that Sakurai has said that we're likely getting less newcomers this time around is specifically because that could possibly exclude a histortic character. With Brawl we got a whooping 18 new characters (excluding individual Pokémons, including ZSS), and even then only 3 of them were really obscure characters, that being Pokémon Trainer, ZSS and R.O.B. Say we only get 10 newcomers this time around, 3 of which have already been revealed, leaving only 7 more left, characters that are fighting for these spots include Little Mac, Palutena, Ridley, K. Rool, Chrom, Mii, Pac-Man, Dixie Kong, Toad, etc. In that case, can we really afford having another obscure character when not even all of these character can be granted a spot? I personally don't think so, but this is all hypothetical, considering we don't know the exact number of newcomers we're getting in this game, but it's still a possibility. Sakurai also doesn't mind breaking patterns as we know, if anything he probably loves breaking them, so nothing can keep on being a tradition anyways.

Either way, this discussion about historic characters and an additional obscure character is simply filled with a lot of hypothetical questions and a bunch of "what if"s. It's a hard subject because we've learned to not trust following patterns (and even then 2 times is hardly a pattern.) I think it's best if we just leave the discussion as this, because frankly, I've actually enjoyed getting a perspective from the other side in such a nice manner, and we really can't come to a conclusion with what we know.

I understand your point of view, and it is, indeed, reasonable.

Good day, sir.

You forgot N64 logo.
And to an extent MissingNo.

No, I didn't.

 

[shinhed-echi]

The reason I keep mentioning that Sakurai has said that we're likely getting less newcomers this time around is specifically because that could possibly exclude a histortic character. With Brawl we got a whooping 18 new characters (excluding individual Pokémons, including ZSS), and even then only 3 of them were really obscure characters, that being Pokémon Trainer, ZSS and R.O.B. Say we only get 10 newcomers this time around, 3 of which have already been revealed, leaving only 7 more left, characters that are fighting for these spots include Little Mac, Palutena, Ridley, K. Rool, Chrom, Mii, Pac-Man, Dixie Kong, Toad, etc. I

Little Mac: Original new IP
Palutena: Another KI character
Ridley: Another METROID character
K. Rool: Another D.K. character
Chrom: Another FIRE EMBLEM character
Mii: Original new IP
Pac-Man: Orginal new IP
Dixie Kong: Another D.K. characer
Toad: Another MARIO character


Yeah.. I can totally see Little Mac and Pacman. To an extent, maybe Mii as well.
But from the rest of characters, I can picture up to 2-3 of those becoming playable. I'm pretty sure Sakurai said somewhere along the line that he's more interested in new franchises.

With that said, I think your reasoning is well thought of, I don't think we'll be seeing too many new characters, and those that ARE included are probably going to be gimicky and original (which of course is a good thing). MAYBE we'll see some last minute clones here and there, but I don't think there'll be many. Heck, Brawl only had Lucas and... Wolf kinda.

As for the historical character... not sure, EVR Racer sounds plausible. I don't see Harry because while he's a Virtual Boy character, he's NOT virtual boy itself.

 

[Pacack]

As for the historical character... not sure, EVR Racer sounds plausible. I don't see Harry because while he's a Virtual Boy character, he's NOT virtual boy itself.

As the owner of the EVR Racer thread...his chances are really meh. He's still possible, but so is Geno.

That's the main reason I don't think Harry has a chance.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I assume, if there are more than two trailers, then we might see one in December.

Okay, if we have holiday reveals, this is how I think they will go down:

• Meta Knight for Halloween, he has a mask and stuff.
• Falco for Thanksgiving. He's a bird, and people eat bird on Thanksgiving.
• Ice Climbers on Christmas for obvious reasons.

If Sakurai does make holiday reveals, would this make sense? Then again you have to take in Japan's holidays into account, but something like Christmas would make sense for a reveal.

Do they celebrate Thanksgiving in Japan?
I don't think so since it originated from the Pilgrims and native Americans first meeting.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Do they celebrate Thanksgiving in Japan?
I don't think so since it originated from the Pilgrims and native Americans first meeting.

I know, I was just saying in general if there were holiday releases. IF we had one of Thanksgiving.

I dunno, I'm trying to think of a new topic that isn't eye-gauging.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Do they celebrate Thanksgiving in Japan?
I don't think so since it originated from the Pilgrims and native Americans first meeting.

Nope, Thanksgiving is strictly American. I'm European and have never ever been to one Thanksgiving, since we don't give a hoot about it over here.

 

[BluePikmin11]

You know instead, they could confirm food as an item in Thanksgiving.
Also poll: do you think that the items will have their own 3D models instead of being 2D?

 

[shinhed-echi]

I think X-mas and New Year is a holiday Japan and Western countries can agree on.

And I wouldn't underestimate the appeal of Halloween.
I think Modern day Japan likes this holiday as well. Heck, if it's another excuse to dust off cosplay. XD

So yeah, Metaknight sounds realistic for tomorrow. Won't hold my breath though. It's probably going to be an Olimar pic.

Is there anything Halloweeny about Yoshi?

 

[Hotfeet444]

Good afternoon all, hope you're all doing well as we edge closer and closer to Halloween, and I love Halloween. So the current topic is holiday reveals? I don't see it happening, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see it happen.

Anyways, I took some time yesterday and redesigned Mewtwo's moveset from what I had originally interpreted it as...

Spoiler

Mewtwo:

Series: Pokemon
Size: 8/10
Weight: 7.5/10
Power: 9/10
Jumping/Recovery: 9/10
Range: 6.5/10
Knockback: 8/10
Speed: 5/10
Combo Skills: 7/10
Technique: 7.5/10

Character Description: Revered as the most powerful of Pokemon, Mewtwo lives up to its title by being one of the heaviest hitters in the game and the strongest of the Pokemon characters. Mewtwo excells in overall hard-hitting attacks and powerful throws, but his movement speed is not the quickest and his range is only slightly above average, so you need to play in close. However, with his weight more than double what it was in Melee, Mewtwo is no longer so feeble in close-quarters combat, which is good considering he's not a small character.

Mewtwo:

Standard A Combo: Shadow Bursts (3x, 16% total)
Forward + A: Psychic Blast (13%) (Super short-range projectile)
Up + A: Psycho Spark (12%)
Down + A: Psywave (11%)
Dash Attack: Shadow Hook (10%)

Aerial Attacks:

Neutral A: Psychic Shock (20% total)
Forward + A: Psychic Pulse (15%)
Up + A: Psychic Push (13% and Push effect)
Backward + A: Shadow Wall (13%)
Down + A: Shadow Tail (14%) (Meteor Smash)

Smash Attacks:

Forward Smash: Psychic (34%)
Up Smash: Psyshock (29%)
Down Smash: Shadow Pulse (29%)

Grab/Throws:

Grab: Grab with a single hand filled with psychic energy
Pummel: Shocks the opponent with psychic energy (4%)
Front Throw: Throws the opponent upward and blows the opponent away with a psychic blast (12%)
Up Throw: Spins the opponent around then launches them straight up (15%)
Back Throw: Will turn around and blast the opponent away with Psychic energy (14%)
Down Throw: Throws the opponent to the ground repeatedly (11%)

Special Moves:

Standard Special: Shadow Ball (30% max)
Side Special: Psycho Cut (Initial Slash: 9%, fully charged: 32%, Blade projectile: 10%)
Up Special: Teleport (No Damage, medium range teleport)
Down Special: Power Swap (Gains boost depending on character that connects with him)
Final Smash: Psystrike (Area-effect Smash that will draw opponents in and cause substantial damage: 120% total)

 

[BluePikmin11]

I don't think there is anything scary about Yoshi.

 

[Louie G.]

Hey guys, I FINALLY got Roster Maker, so I present to you my current roster.
Thoughts?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Hey guys, I FINALLY got Roster Maker, so I present to you my current roster.
View attachment 3779
Thoughts?

Error....

 

[Louie G.]

Error....

Fixed.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

I think X-mas and New Year is a holiday Japan and Western countries can agree on.

And I wouldn't underestimate the appeal of Halloween.
I think Modern day Japan likes this holiday as well. Heck, if it's another excuse to dust off cosplay. XD

So yeah, Metaknight sounds realistic for tomorrow. Won't hold my breath though. It's probably going to be an Olimar pic.

Is there anything Halloweeny about Yoshi?

He's a dinosaur.
The dinosaurs are extinct.
Extinction means death.
Death is a common theme in Halloween.

Or you could say dinosaurs are scary.... I guess.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

View attachment 3780
Hey guys, I FINALLY got Roster Maker, so I present to you my current roster.
Thoughts?

Only things I can't get past are Palutena, Pac-man, and Mii. Diskun I'm iffy on, but not sure where I stand on that. I give it an Ultimate Lifeform rating of 8.5.

 

[Louie G.]

Only things I can't get past are Palutena, Pac-man, and Mii. Diskun I'm iffy on, but not sure where I stand on that. I give it an Ultimate Lifeform rating of 8.5.

Palutena?
I understand Pac-Man and Mii, but...
Why Palutena?

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Palutena?
I understand Pac-Man and Mii, but...
Why Palutena?

All I see for Palutena (Pale Tuna) is popularity. Only one character has gotten in because of popularity and popularity alone.

 

[BluePikmin11]

We never had a goddess on the roster, right?
Playing as one would be awesome!
Her moveset would kinda relate to various mythological stories.

 

[Louie G.]

All I see for Palutena (Pale Tuna) is popularity. Only one character has gotten in because of popularity and popularity alone.

She's part of a very popular new game that happened to be created by Sakurai.
Kid Icarus Uprising had so many unique characters, but Palutena is the best and most obvious choice.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

We never had a goddess on the roster, right?
Playing as one would be awesome!
Her moveset would kinda relate to various mythological stories.

I honestly would find that boring.

She's part of a very popular new game that happened to be created by Sakurai.
Kid Icarus Uprising had so many unique characters, but Palutena is the best and most obvious choice.

If I'm correct, KIU barely sold over 1 million copies. That's not really "popular". You're making it seem like KI NEEDS another rep. It doesn't. It's not on the same level as Metroid or DKC, or even close to them.

 

[Louie G.]

We never had a goddess on the roster, right?
Playing as one would be awesome!
Her moveset would kinda relate to various mythological stories.

No. Her moveset would have to do with light and

Spoiler

Her boss battle.

Mythological stories is an interesting idea, but light makes more sense.
She is the goddess of light after all.

If I'm correct, KIU barely sold over 1 million copies. That's not really "popular". You're making it seem like KI NEEDS another rep. It doesn't. It's not on the same level as Metroid or DKC, or even close to them.

"Barely a million copies" is better than Earthbound throughout the 15+ years it's been around.
KI:U has been around for 2 years.
MOTHER has 2 reps.
KI does not.
Just saiyan.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Hmm... perhaps there can be move in which Palutena fires a long ray of light that confuses the opponent. That could be a side-b. Why did I ever ignore Palutena's moveset potential?

 

[Louie G.]

Hmm... perhaps there can be move in which Palutena fires a long ray of light that confuses the opponent. That could be a side-b.

I foresee her using slow moving light projectiles, like that light halo or those balls of light that home in on Pit.
Final Smash is easily Palutena Glam Blaster. Forget Centurion Army, it doesn't need to return for either Pit or Palutena.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

If KI needs another rep that bad, all series do, then. But KIU ALONE out beat every Mother COMBINED?! Whoa... Mind blown.

 

[Louie G.]

If KI needs another rep that bad, all series do, then. But KIU ALONE out beat every Mother COMBINED?! Whoa... Mind blown.

That is untrue. I mentioned Earthbound in particular.
Not sure about Mother 3, but it sold more than MOTHER (400,000) and Earthbound (roughly 300,000 in Japan, 150,000 in America).
I'm just comparing them because they are series of the same size. Plus I believe that the KI series overall has sold more than MOTHER.