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TheLastJinjo

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"Who are you to decide it doesn't matter? YOU AREN'T SAKURAI."
You aren't Sakurai either. So I can go around arguing with you about Goku, Reggie, Naruto, and Shigeru Miyamoto like an idiot if I wanted too. If you're only defense is "You're not Sakurai" then it's a very weak defense. I can't believe I'm wasting my time arguing about this, but I'm more surprised that YOU are.
 

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Why would sakurai add more obscure characters than he already has? There's already a bunch of em and he's certainly not going to add Harry, floating head, etc. It's common sense, characters like that would wreck sales among the casuals who care about popular characters. I don't care who he adds since I care about gameplay. But this is about Nintendo All stars not some joke roster party game.
 

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The 5 veterans revealed since E3 have all been "toonier" characters. Don't get me wrong, I love me some toons, but I think the next reveal, assuming it's not a newcomer, should be someone who shakes up the vibe just a little. I wanna see Yoshi, Metaknight, Falco etc. as soon as possible, but I'm kind of excited to see characters that I'm not usually that hyped for. Zelda seems likely as one of the next few, but I would like to see Captain Falcon, Marth or even ZS show up next. I wanna see how their designs have evolved, if at all. And then I want Mewtwo.
 

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Dr. Kawashima is in a video game, but he didn't originate in one. Goku is in a video game and he didn't originate in one. Your defense is that they are two different beings. So is Goku technically. One is made of Anime and the other a 3 Dimensional model.
 

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If Zelda is confirmed... what would be your reaction if Sakurai's Miiverse comment says Zelda's moveset "may be refreshed"?
 

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You aren't Sakurai either. So I can go around arguing with you about Goku, Reggie, Naruto, and Shigeru Miyamoto like an idiot if I wanted too. If you're only defense is "You're not Sakurai" then it's a very weak defense. I can't believe I'm wasting my time arguing about this, but I'm more surprised that YOU are.
There you go putting words in my mouth again. I never denied that there is a rule that prevents non-video game characters from getting in, as you suggest.

What I DID say was that Dr. Kawashima does not technically violate that rule, and is therefore, viable. You say the technicality doesn't matter to Sakurai, so Dr. Kawashima still isn't viable. How can you tell? "You aren't Sakurai".

"You aren't Sakurai" is precisely the reason I disagree with you, so of coarse it's my main defense. You can't tell me what does and doesn't matter because you have no way of knowing whether or not Sakurai feels the same way!

If Sakurai said "Characters that are based on things that didn't originate in a video game are not viable to be playable in Super Smash Bros.", I'd agree with you. He's said nothing about this, so I disagree.
 

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There you go putting words in my mouth again. I never denied that there is a rule that prevents non-video game characters from getting in, as you suggest.

What I DID say was that Dr. Kawashima does not technically violate that rule, and is therefore, viable. You say the technicality doesn't matter to Sakurai, so Dr. Kawashima still isn't viable. How can you tell? "You aren't Sakurai".

"You aren't Sakurai" is precisely the reason I disagree with you, so of coarse it's my main defense. You can't tell me what does and doesn't matter because you have no way of knowing whether or not Sakurai feels the same way!

If Sakurai said "Characters that are based on things that didn't originate in a video game are not viable to be playable in Super Smash Bros.", I'd agree with you. He's said nothing about this, so I disagree.
Fox is based on a Fox we should cut him :happysheep:
 

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If Zelda is confirmed... what would be your reaction if Sakurai's Miiverse comment says Zelda's moveset "may be refreshed"?
Sheik is already an established character, unlike Toad, and unless he references her specifically, it should not be assumed that she's been removed from the moveset. If anything the two would be seperated. But if he did anything like that, he wouldn't drop the hint. Toad was the possibility of something we've not had yet. Shiek would be the reversal of something we're used to. Wouldn't make sense for him to make a statement like that.
 

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There you go putting words in my mouth again. I never denied that there is a rule that prevents non-video game characters from getting in, as you suggest.

There you go putting words in MY mouth. Because I never said you did! :joyful:

What I DID say was that Dr. Kawashima does not technically violate that rule.
How? He's a non-video game character.

If Sakurai said "Characters that are based on things that didn't originate in a video game are not viable to be playable in Super Smash Bros.", I'd agree with you. He's said nothing about this, so I disagree.
I believe he dis say that you have to originate in a video game. Dr. Kawashima did not.

It's like your only reason for continuing this is because BluePikmin11 gives you "likes"
 

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Viable? Don't make me laugh. Even then it doesn't matter if they are two different beings because he represents a real life person. Even if he was viable he'd be lesser priority than every other ACTUAL Nintendo character. So it's not like he'd get in over anybody.

Now come on. You're encouraging BluePikmin11 to go on about this for another 3 pages.
Mario was based on Miyamoto's old short, Italian, landlord.
When he was discussing what to name JumpMan, his landlord came in and starting JUMPING UP AND DOWN in anger because Miyamoto didn't pay the bills or something.
And Kirby is based off on the VACUUM company Kirby Vacuums.
He is also named after the lawyer who defended Nintendo in the King Kong vs Donkey Konf count case.
 

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You see? It is so easy to get Noah all riled up. All we had to do was post our personal opinions that he disagrees with. :troll:
 

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I have seen posts by you saying the same thing. Don't even start **** with me.
When did I EVER say a character that brings something new to the table doesn't bring something new to the table? Don't even start **** with ME.

Mario was based on Miyamoto's old short, Italian, landlord.
Inspired by is not the same thing as being a direct depiction of someone. Mario's NAME was inspired by their landlord. Popeye was what inspired Mario actually, but it wasn't a direct depiction of Popeye like Dr. Kawashima is a direct depiction of Mr. Kawashima.

Please stop detracting others peoples' hopes.
Then post it on the wishlist thread and I'll have no problem with it.
 

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Alright you guys lets add cooking mama, dr floaty head, Harry, goomy, and sakurai's cat to smash 4 because we ain't sakurai.

Seriously sakurai is trying to add iconic Nintendo characters we all know this, so by using common sense we can assume that those characters have no chance! All the obscure choices were based on the systems they came from, game and watch, wii fit, NES. So why the hell would sakurai pick floaty head?
 

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You aren't Sakurai either. So I can go around arguing with you about Goku, Reggie, Naruto, and Shigeru Miyamoto like an idiot if I wanted too. If you're only defense is "You're not Sakurai" then it's a very weak defense. I can't believe I'm wasting my time arguing about this, but I'm more surprised that YOU are.
I actually support Reggie.
 

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You see? It is so easy to get Noah all riled up. All we had to do was post our personal opinions that he disagrees with. :troll:
Who's riled up? Who's posting personal opinions? I see a civil debate on facts and evidence. Are you stupid or just hungry for trolling again.
 

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Alright you guys lets add cooking mama, dr floaty head, Harry, goomy, and sakurai's cat to smash 4 because we ain't sakurai.

Seriously sakurai is trying to add iconic Nintendo characters we all know this, so by using common sense we can assume that those characters have no chance! All the obscure choices were based on the systems they came from, game and watch, wii fit, NES. So why the hell would sakurai pick floaty head?
Wii Fit is an iconic frachise, Animal Crossing is an iconic franchise, Brain Age is also an iconic franchise.
 

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Alright you guys lets add cooking mama, dr floaty head, Harry, goomy, and sakurai's cat to smash 4 because we ain't sakurai.

Seriously sakurai is trying to add iconic Nintendo characters we all know this, so by using common sense we can assume that those characters have no chance! All the obscure choices were based on the systems they came from, game and watch, wii fit, NES. So why the hell would sakurai pick floaty head?
sakurai's cat is already in smash :troll:
 

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There you go putting words in MY mouth. Because I never said you did! :joyful:
You suggested it by bringing up a bunch of non-video game characters as if I'd argue that they're possibilities as well, hence the phrase "as you suggest". Perhaps you should be a bit more specific so you don't leave those kinds of impressions.

How? He's a non-video game character.
Where does it say being based on non-video game characters makes you a non-video game character?

Where does it say Sakurai thinks being based on a non-video game character makes you a non-video game character?
 

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The 5 veterans revealed since E3 have all been "toonier" characters. Don't get me wrong, I love me some toons, but I think the next reveal, assuming it's not a newcomer, should be someone who shakes up the vibe just a little. I wanna see Yoshi, Metaknight, Falco etc. as soon as possible, but I'm kind of excited to see characters that I'm not usually that hyped for. Zelda seems likely as one of the next few, but I would like to see Captain Falcon, Marth or even ZS show up next. I wanna see how their designs have evolved, if at all. And then I want Mewtwo.
That's actually a pretty interesting point you brought up (Although I'd rather see Ike before Marth). I assume Captain Falcon and ZSS wouldn't really be dramatically different but just the same, only updated.


Fools. I am Sakurai! And I lied about not to expect Sukapon!
(Also, Roy is confirmed for playable character :awesome:)
Oh no!!:b:
 
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