Roster Discussion Thread (Closed)

[N3ON]

Like was said above, Xenoblade would be perfectly (and realistically) represented with Shulk, one AT and stage, a trophy of every major character, not every single character (though trophies from X could also decrease the amount from Xenoblade), and the normal amount of music per stage. My guess would be between 6-10 pieces.

A boss and item would be nice, and they're certainly possible, but I wouldn't say they're overly likely.

And I'm a Xenoblade fan, but the series shouldn't get special treatment with multiple stages and ATs considering it's new to Smash and only would have a single character.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

You want only 5-7 tracks of that amazing soundtrack!?

Non Xenoblade Fan Confirmed

I'm not saying what I want. I'm saying what will probably happen.

And I haven't actually played Xenoblade yet (trying to find it), so technically you're correct.

Whatcha gonna do about it?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

I'm not saying what I want. I'm saying what will probably happen.

And I haven't actually played Xenoblade yet (trying to find it), so technically you're correct.

Whatcha gonna do about it?

Nothing

 

[3Bismyname]

i doubt Xenoblade would get a boss. the way i see it we'd get Shulk, a stage, an assist trophy, and good amount of trophies and stickers but comparably less than most of the other series. i personally dont pay much attention to how much music tracks they get so 6-9 sounds right to me. and as far as an item is concerned, i doubt they'd get one. not every series needs one.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Like was said above, Xenoblade would be perfectly (and realistically) represented with Shulk, one AT and stage, a trophy of every major character, not every single character (though trophies from X could also decrease the amount from Xenoblade), and the normal amount of music per stage. My guess would be between 6-10 pieces.

A boss and item would be nice, and they're certainly possible, but I wouldn't say they're overly likely.

And I'm a Xenoblade fan, but the series shouldn't get special treatment with multiple stages and ATs considering it's new to Smash and only would have a single character.

OK, here is a more realistic list:

Character - Shulk
AT - Xenoblade Team Strike (Reyn, Dunban, Riki, and Melia bombard stage with attacks)
Item - Sharla's Sniper Rifle
Stage - Sword Valley
Boss - Metal Face
Stickers/Trophies - Still Every Character (that isn't hard)
Music - About 10-15 of the best songs

 

[FalKoopa]

Considering that Brawl had 314 songs, i wonder how many songs we'll get in SSB 4.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Considering that Brawl had 314 songs, i wonder how many songs we'll get in SSB 4.

845 sounds just right

 

[FalKoopa]

845 sounds just right

I wouldn't mind getting 1000.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

I wouldn't mind getting 1000.

How about over 9000?

 

[N3ON]

OK, here is a more realistic list:

Character - Shulk
AT - Xenoblade Team Strike (Reyn, Dunban, Riki, and Melia bombard stage with attacks)
Item - Sharla's Sniper Rifle
Stage - Sword Valley
Boss - Metal Face
Stickers/Trophies - Still Every Character (that isn't hard)
Music - About 15 of the best songs

Try:

Character - Shulk
AT - Riki (doesn't really matter who, one of the playable characters - Riki is popular)
Stage - Gaur Plain (it really could be a number of areas, that's my guess)
Stickers/Trophies - Up in the air due to X, probably between 20-25 Xenoblade/X trophies and stickers in total
Music - 6-10 songs

I don't see the necessity or the iconicness of Sharla's Sniper Rifle, and I think we'd be very lucky to get Metal Face. I don't think he's likely as a boss, probably just a trophy.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Try:

Character - Shulk
AT - Riki (doesn't really matter who, one of the playable characters - Riki is popular)
Stage - Gaur Plain (it really could be a number of areas, that's my guess)
Stickers/Trophies - Up in the air due to X, probably between 20-25 Xenoblade/X trophies and stickers in total
Music - 6-10 songs

I don't see the necessity or the iconicness of Sharla's Sniper Rifle, and I think we'd be very lucky to get Metal Face. I don't think he's likely as a boss, probably just a trophy.

1. Longer range gun, gives her a rep without repping her as a AT
2. Metal Face would make a great boss, especially for the size compared to the characters
3. The AT should be a team of people (you can't leave out Reyn (REYN TIME) and Dunban)
4. The stage can be anything
5. About 10-20 songs

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

You're trying to give a new game a lot of stuff when some longer running series in Brawl have less

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

You're trying to give a new game a lot of stuff when some longer running series in Brawl have less

But this is SSB4, not Brawl.

Obviously those franchises would get more this time.

 

[N3ON]

1. Longer range gun, gives her a rep without repping her as a AT
2. Metal Face would make a great boss, especially for the size compared to the characters

I'm not saying they couldn't work, because they could, I'm saying they're not likely. It doesn't matter how "great" they'd be, they really don't have any precedence above a number of other options for items and bosses. Also Sharla doesn't need to be repped in anything more than a trophy.

3. The AT should be a team of people (you can't leave out Reyn (REYN TIME) and Dunban)

That'd be neat, but it's not going to happen. The Earthbound AT isn't Ness's whole team, it's just Jeff. The FE AT isn't a whole army, it's just Lyn. Unless they are a clear pair like Kat & Ana or Latios & Latias, chances are only one character will come from an AT/Pokeball.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

That'd be neat, but it's not going to happen. The Earthbound AT isn't Ness's whole team, it's just Jeff. The FE AT isn't a whole army, it's just Lyn. Unless they are a clear pair like Kat & Ana or Latios & Latias, chances are only one character will come from an AT/Pokeball.

I am thinking Reyn and Dunban then

 

[volbound1700]

If we somehow get multiple Namco characters, there's no doubt that at most there would be 3, Pac-Man, a Tales character (most likely Lloyd), and a Tekken character (most likely Heihachi).

Pac-Man because he's effing Pac-Man.
Tales because of Higuchi.
Tekken because the series got the most fan buzz at the Namco reveal.

Dig Dug may have a say about that as well. Not as popular as series above but he is a classical character that fits better in the Smash universe.

 

[N3ON]

Reyn and Dunban are not a tag team any more than anyone else in the party. They are not analogous to Kat & Ana (who are never seen apart), or Latias & Latios, who make up a legendary duo.

 

[Big-Cat]

Something tells me we may or may not get an amount greater than Brawl's tracklist. I just hope that they'll do what Tekken Tag 2 did and have Smash Tunes(Smash with Tekken Tunes). I already love using it in Tag 2. Still need to put Bjork's All is Full of Love on Heavenly Garden.

 

[Frostwraith]

How about DLC music to extend the soundtrack? Or load your own songs into the game.

Would put the whole Skyward Sword and Kid Icarus: Uprising soundtracks in Smash.

@Kuma: what feature from Tekken Tag 2? I am not familiar with the game... would you please explain? I would appreciate it! =)

 

[FalKoopa]

They could work only on the soundtracks of games that came after Brawl. And copy the rest.

Spoiler

I woulf love to have M&L: BIS soundtrack in Sm4sh...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

But this is SSB4, not Brawl.

Obviously those franchises would get more this time.

And why does this new game deserve to have more from the start?

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Reyn and Dunban are not a tag team any more than anyone else in the party. They are not analogous to Kat & Ana (who are never seen apart), or Latias & Latios, who make up a legendary duo.

Regardless of what happens I know Reyn will show up somewhere

And why does this new game deserve to have more from the start?

Because there would be more overall this time

What I said for Xenoblade would basically being the smaller repping series had in Brawl. It transfers over with the overall SIZE of the game.

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

I hope the Fire Emblem series gets 4 reps in SSB4 (Marth, Ike, Roy and Chrom).

 

[Watashi]

Speaking of music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4QTEzsCRIE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfvY1S-j67k

These two tracks from Fire Emblem Awakening need to be in.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

I hope the Fire Emblem series gets 4 reps in SSB4 (Marth, Ike, Micaiah and Chrom).

Fixed

 

[Swamp Sensei]

How does the Tekken Tag 2 thing work?

Also...what pieces should be remixed and which pieces should just be added?

 

[kikaru]

I hope the Fire Emblem series gets 4 reps in SSB4 (Marth, Ike, Roy and Chrom).

If they do receive 4 then those 4 are pretty much guaranteed. Right now I'm still in debate whether or not the 3rd slot should go to Roy or Chrom.

 

[FalKoopa]

If they do receive 4 then those 4 are pretty much guaranteed. Right now I'm still in debate whether or not the 3rd slot should go to Roy or Chrom.

Chrom, of course. They have to advertise, you know...

 

[Frostwraith]

If we get 3 Fire Emblem characters... either Roy returns and Ike is cut, the FE roster ends up as Marth, Roy and Chrom, or Ike returns, Roy doesn't and we get Marth and Ike alongside Chrom. Those are the likeliest possibilities.

 

[kikaru]

Chrom, of course. They have to advertise, you know...

I'm gonna have to play it and eventually decide for myself, but before that happens I still need to finish Xenoblade and Zero Escape above all else.

For me personally I can't fully judge a character's worth until I've actually beaten the game(s) they're in.

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

Fixed

She'll be upgraded from sticker to trophy in this game.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

She'll be upgraded from sticker to trophy in this game.

Actually that is Roy from not being there to trophy

Micaiah and Ike for Radiant Dawn reps, alongside Marth (DLC Version) and Chrom for Awakening reps

 

[Frostwraith]

I don't think Micaiah is as likely as you think... you're setting up for a disappointment... though, I could be wrong. Currently, I am keeping my expectations low.

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

Roy's design in SSB4 would ****! Inspired by his look in Awakening. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120421061756/fireemblem/images/2/2f/DlcRoyKakusei.jpg

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Roy's design in SSB4 would ****! Inspired by his look in Awakening. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120421061756/fireemblem/images/2/2f/DlcRoyKakusei.jpg

That is what he would look like if he gets in, and I say as an alt character for Marth

 

[FlareHabanero]

Let people have desires, but don't mix them up with expectations. Always remember to keep expectations to a minimum to avoid crushing disappointment, but still have enough passion to hold onto something and expand on that.

 

[FalKoopa]

Roy's design in SSB4 would ****! Inspired by his look in Awakening. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120421061756/fireemblem/images/2/2f/DlcRoyKakusei.jpg

I prefer his original look. Thank you...

 

[Croph]

I'm pretty sure if we get 4 FE reps, I'll be...

Four FE reps you say?

Roy
Roy
Roy
Roy

Here, let me elaborate on my post.

Roy (Young - FE 7)
Roy (Teenage - 15 years, FE 6)
Roy (Older - FE Awakening design)
Roy (Older, older - Middle age)

And this is me keeping my expectations low...

I'm joking, I'm joking. I'm hoping for 4 though. Don't know how likely it is, but it isn't impossible. (Wait, I think I've said this before?)

 

[N3ON]

Micaiah and Ike for Radiant Dawn reps, alongside Marth (DLC Version) and Chrom for Awakening reps

Why does Radiant Dawn (one of the least well received games in the series) need two reps when other games in the series have none? And if any game were to get two reps, shouldn't it be either the most popular or most recent game in the series? (not that I think any FE game should get more than a single rep)

 

[Frostwraith]

these four represent well the various settings of FE:

Marth - Akaneia and Barensia (Shadow Dragon, Gaiden, Mystery)
Roy - Elibe (Sword of Seals and FE7)
Ike - Tellius (Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn)
Chrom - Ylisse (Awakening)

The only ones left are Jugdral (Genealogy and Thracia) and Magvel (Sacred Stones)