Roster Discussion Thread (Closed)

[Robert of Normandy]

Though at the same time, I would not be surprised if Mega Man was a condensed character in a vein to Ness or Link.

???Not sure what that means. Could you explain? Do you mean composite character?

 

[FlareHabanero]

???Not sure what that means. Could you explain?

A character that mixes attributes from ether other characters in the series (For example, Ness learning PK moves from Paula and Poo) or a character that mixes attributes from the varies incarnations (For example, Link).

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So he would have moves from all the Megamen?

His moveset is gonna be complex.

 

[TheCreator]

I still love that move set. Lol

 

[Robert of Normandy]

A character that mixes attributes from ether other characters in the series (For example, Ness learning PK moves from Paula and Poo) or a character that mixes attributes from the varies incarnations (For example, Link)

Okay, I guess. Ness isn't really a composite character(he just borrows moves from other characters, not other incarnations). I would rather classic MM just be classic MM.

I think Mega Buster for nB and Rush Coil for ^B are basically required. I could see vB being a weapon change, and <>B being his equipped weapon. Or, if you want to implement a copy system, vB would be his copy move, and <>B could be Beat, or something.

If Megaman does have a copy mechanic, the way I see it is that the has a copy move. When he has no move copied, it works like Copy in Kirby Super Star. After that, his vB would be whatever move he copied.

Edit: Slide should be his dash attack.

 

[TheCreator]

I again don't think rush should be incorporated in his move set. That would be like tails being sonic's ^B.
I love the top spin, and leaf shield ideas.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I disagree since Rush is used like an item in the game.

It's a robot, which is an object to be used

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I again don't think rush should be incorporated in his move set. That would be like tails being sonic's ^B.
I love the top spin, and leaf shield ideas.

I don't see how Tails=Rush. Rush has never been playable, and has always been a weapon for Megaman. He's been part of Megamans arsenal since MM3.

New idea: what if he got that coil from MM4 for a zAir?

 

[TheCreator]

Rush is megamans sidekick, like tails.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

No he's not. He's just an item to be used at mega man's disposal

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Rush is megamans sidekick, like tails.

Not really, no. Tails is playable, Rush is not. Rush is basically just a weapon for Megaman.

 

[TheCreator]

But he's a character. =/= weapon.

 

[FlareHabanero]

In other news, I'd be disappointed if there were no references to Captain N if we got Mega Man and the Kid Icarus Smash Taunt. Seriously, that is an opportunity that shouldn't be missed.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Um...are you expecting X? Because MM Classic couldn't dash.

Giving original Mega-Man other abilities that different versions use?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

But he's a character. =/= weapon.

But he's used the same as all of Megamans other weapons. If Mr. Satun can be an item, then Rush can be a weapon for Megaman.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Wouldn't having Mega Man copy other incarnations's attacks be considered a time paradox?

 

[TheCreator]

Can be. But Mr. Saturn is an item because he COULDN'T be playable in Sakurai's eyes. Rush could very well be playable. So I see AT more worthy.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Giving original Mega-Man other abilities that different versions use?

IMO that would be a horrible idea. MM classic has more than enough abilities on his own, so he really shouldn't need to take moves from other Megamen.

Plus, I don't see the dash as being that useful.

@Creator: .......WHAT?

How could Rush be playable at all? He doesn't do ANYTHING on his own. All he does is act as a support for Megaman.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Wouldn't having Mega Man copy other incarnations's attacks be considered a time paradox?

Wouldn't be any worse then Ness knowing Paula's and Poo's PK attacks.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Can be. But Mr. Saturn is an item because he COULDN'T be playable in Sakurai's eyes. Rush could very well be playable. So I see AT more worthy.

Source? I have never heard that Sakurai even considered Mr. Saturn as a character.

Riddle me this Creator.

What would rush do? He can only fly and use a spring on his back. He is a tool that Megaman uses.

He is not Tails. Tails actually has a character. Rush is just there.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

IMO that would be a horrible idea. MM classic has more than enough abilities on his own, so he really shouldn't need to take moves from other Megamen.

Plus, I don't see the dash as being that useful.

@Creator: .......WHAT?

How could Rush be playable at all? He doesn't do ANYTHING on his own. All he does is act as a support for Megaman.

The dash/slide can help him move around the stage better, giving the player to ability to get out the way of attacks even better.

That would go well with the buster and ability to take an enemy's powers.

 

[TheCreator]

It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to do anything. He is megamans sidekick all the same. And sidekicks are always viable. And Mr. Saturn wasn't considered. Because of the reason I gave. I can't give a source I'm busy, just look it up

 

[FlareHabanero]

Source? I have never heard that Sakurai even considered Mr. Saturn as a character.

It was a response to a fan saying that if Jigglypuff can become a playable character, so can Mr. Saturn. Sakurai then pointed it out that it would not work out because Mr. Saturn had no arms and a different frame work, but thought it would of been a good item instead.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostReturn020.html

 

[3Bismyname]

It doesn't matter. He doesn't have to do anything. He is megamans sidekick all the same. And sidekicks are always viable. And Mr. Saturn wasn't considered. Because of the reason I gave. I can't give a source I'm busy, just look it up

Well couldn't rush be compared to Fludd in Mario sunshine. I mean he does act as a sidekick for all intensive purposes but he's still just a tool I b used at Mario's disposel

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Well couldn't rush be compared to Fludd in Mario sunshine. I mean he does act as a sidekick for all intensive purposes but he's still just a tool I b used at Mario's disposel

Great comparison! Only difference is FLUDD was only in one game, wheras Rush is a staple.

 

[3Bismyname]

Great comparison! Only difference is FLUDD was only in one game, wheras Rush is a staple.

Yeah but still, rush is a sidekick but he is still a weapon just like Fludd

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Here are two versions of Mega-Man I made a while back in the forms of powers he would take from the characters (there are more but I only want to post a few).

Maybe we should start discussing powers he could have?

 

[PSIguy89]

So what are some final smash ideas? I'm sure his super from MvC could work but I'd rather they come up with something new

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The girahim mega man looks like he soiled his shorts

 

[Robert of Normandy]

So what are some final smash ideas? I'm sure his super from MvC could work but I'd rather they come up with something new

Super Rush Adapter seems like the best. Sure, it's another transformation FS, but it just seems like the most sensible option.

Alternativley, I think the Time Stopper, Tornado Blow, or Astro Crush could work.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Hyper Mega Man from Marvel vs. Capcom and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 should be the definitive choice more so then the Rush Jet Adapter.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Hyper Mega Man from Marvel vs. Capcom and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 should be the definitive choice more so then the Rush Jet Adapter.

I thought people hated Hyper Mega Man, and the MvC moveset in general.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that Hyper Mega Man is perfect Final Smash material.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that Hyper Mega Man is perfect Final Smash material.

Meh. The moves I mentioned seem like much better choices.

 

[PSIguy89]

I quite like the ideas around the rush adaptors from megaman6! Wasn't there a sweet one from 7 aswell?

 

[Diddy Kong]

In other news, I'd be disappointed if there were no references to Captain N if we got Mega Man and the Kid Icarus Smash Taunt. Seriously, that is an opportunity that shouldn't be missed.

I don't get the Captain N hype or that it has to be represented. It was only launched in the US, not worldwide.

Japan pretty much has the only 'right' for culture references in Smash. We get spoiled with American brainwash every where in the world, why can't Smash stay 'clean' from this?

That being said, Mega Man in general is / was an extremely US based marketed character. And also mostly Americans want him. Though the Japanese like him to I've seen? Can't deny that the US and Japan are the most marketed at areas either, but still, I'm mostly indifferent to Mega Man for Smash.

Same with Pac Man, but I'd consider his inclusion far more logical than Mega Man's. And yes, this is mostly to his arcade fame. I could care less about modern day Pac Man.

But really, both would be 'sorta' retro additions anyways... Just 3rd party ones.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I don't get the Captain N hype or that it has to be represented. It was only launched in the US, not worldwide.

It's called a shout out. Hell, there are references to Star Wars, Dwight D Eisenhower, Kamen Rider, and (arguably) X-men in Super Smash Bros.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I don't get the Captain N hype or that it has to be represented. It was only launched in the US, not worldwide.

Plus it kinda blows chunks.

 

[Deleted member]

Difference is, those things being shouted out are good.
Captain N was a stain in Nintendo history like the CD-i games, only less humorous.

EDIT: What's next, should Link be saying "Well excuuuuuuuuse me, princess!" everytime he gets KO'd by Zelda as a shout out?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Difference is, those things being shouted out are good.
Captain N was a stain in Nintendo history like the CD-i games, only less humorous.

EDIT: What's next, should Link be saying "Well excuuuuuuuuse me, princess!" everytime he gets KO'd by Zelda as a shout out?

This.

It's called a shout out. Hell, there are references to Star Wars, Dwight D Eisenhower, Kamen Rider, and (arguably) X-men in Super Smash Bros.

I don't really see them. Outside of Beam Swords maybe??